Huskies said:

Hey guys, I was wondering if there is an established consensus on the benefits of coffee/caffeine/coffee grounds in grain boiling or grain jars, I know that for tubs it is a no go.

On a similar note, I was wondering if we should do a Potency Thread similar to this one, where we establish everything we know that does/does not help potency. Perhaps that info could be contained just here.

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tree frog said:

Huskies said:

Hey guys, I was wondering if there is an established consensus on the benefits of coffee/caffeine/coffee grounds in grain boiling or grain jars, I know that for tubs it is a no go.

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I use it for sclerotia.  I don't know if others still do.

I've ran other species on the coffee jars and it doesn't hurt anyway.  Have 16 bags of enoki colonizing now that were done like this.

But yeah, if you're looking for potency, ms -> agar -> grow (multiple tubs) -> clone (multiple fruits) -> agar -> grow -> bioassay.  Keep the winners.

Shoeboxes and other small foot print methods work well for this.

You can also start with potent genetics.  PE, APE, etc.  Exotics (maybe not start here but if you have a few grows under your belt that's another option.)

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BeefSupremeJr said:

-regular misting

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BeefSupremeJr said:

regular misting

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Kroxx said:

you'll need to gently mist to replace the amount of droplets that have vanished in the course of the days.

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Gotcha that's what I figured, I've read to post on surface conditions too but I just wanted to make sure. I'm too new to have a good idea of what regular really means . So if I where to rephrase it I would say: mist based on surface conditions not time.


I would also like to add to stipes quote:

Stipe-n Cap said:

The idea that higher nutrient content (ammendments/nootz) in substrate boosts performance/increases yield;

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Stipe-n Cap said:

I'd lean more toward evaporation not being a pinning trigger, my tubs almost never experience evaporation, and pin just fine.

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Stipe-n Cap said:

I'd lean more toward evaporation not being a pinning trigger, my tubs almost never experience evaporation, and pin just fine.

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Stipe-n Cap said:

It also depends on environment, that's why he said "as needed". My tubs rarely go to second flush and I never mist before second flush. If the tubs are hydrated appropriately and spawned with sufficient depth, the substrate won't have issues maintaining conditions.

My sub surface looks like this throughout:



The beads never evaporate, so I never mist. Even my thick shoeboxes maintain beads without requiring misting. I'd lean more toward evaporation not being a pinning trigger, my tubs almost never experience evaporation, and pin just fine.

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Vast218 said:

One thing that confused me as a noob was that I thought the droplets were a direct consequence of misting, they are not!

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Stipe-n Cap said:

@Baba

It seems reasonable, I doubt there's much surface evaporation taking place in the wild. It's not like the ground is a bare fruiting surface, it's always covered with some sort of leaf litter, grasses, or some thing similar which would lock moisture/humidity at the surface level beneath all the debris.

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Stipe-n Cap said:

One thing that confused me as a noob was that I thought the droplets were a direct consequence of misting, they are not! No amount of misting will produce these droplets on coir (I have tried lol).

The droplets are formed when the mycelium “squeezes” water out of the wet substrate as it grows. So all that matters is starting with the right level hydration and let mycelium growth do the rest, no misting needed.

Sorry I know this is obvious to most of you here, but some newbies might be confused like I was.

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