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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Dirtnapz] * 2
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Dirtnapz said:
Yahra said:
Yes, i fear so. Have to work tomorrow and i think i'll come back to a black mess.

I know spores don't harm anything but i want to print the f*ck out of this one.

No single spore should be left behind!



Took 5 hours till the veil started breaking then another 5hrs to fully detach, waited another 12 hrs to see if spores would drop and still nothing. Cut off the cap and put it on foil for another 6 hours, finally after no spores I said fuck it and put it in the dehydrator so I can eat it today lol.

Donโ€™t think thereโ€™s a right answer, they do what they want anyway.



A lot of times I notice spores falling onto the veil before it breaks at all, so once the cap has flattened out I'll just flame my scalpel and carefully cut it off in the SAB to print. So that cap in the back looks perfect to me

I hate waiting for the veil to break just to have a light print from the amount dropped before ripping itself.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Yahra] * 1
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Yahra said:
Should i cut off the stem too and dehydrate it or just leave it on the cake?



I've left stems for single fruits that grew first cause the rest of the flush was even and I didn't want the spores to drop, but normally I cut the whole thing off and dry the stems while I wait for the print


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Tetrasage] * 3
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Mhh, waiting for the cap to flatten out makes sense. More surface for spores to drop.

Thanks!

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Tetrasage] * 2
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Tetrasage said:
Dirtnapz said:
Yahra said:
Yes, i fear so. Have to work tomorrow and i think i'll come back to a black mess.

I know spores don't harm anything but i want to print the f*ck out of this one.

No single spore should be left behind!



Took 5 hours till the veil started breaking then another 5hrs to fully detach, waited another 12 hrs to see if spores would drop and still nothing. Cut off the cap and put it on foil for another 6 hours, finally after no spores I said fuck it and put it in the dehydrator so I can eat it today lol.

Donโ€™t think thereโ€™s a right answer, they do what they want anyway.



A lot of times I notice spores falling onto the veil before it breaks at all, so once the cap has flattened out I'll just flame my scalpel and carefully cut it off in the SAB to print. So that cap in the back looks perfect to me

I hate waiting for the veil to break just to have a light print from the amount dropped before ripping itself.



My most recent bmr grow I guess I wasnโ€™t so lucky? I took a bunch of caps from first flush expecting spores. Veil was broken for a good while, nothing. I donโ€™t know if itโ€™s just the variety but they would always drop spores a day after veil has broken. Just my experience with bmr though.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Prolific Koi]
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Best chance of success using a grow bag?  I have a grow bag going with PE.  Its been shaken and is in the process of colonizing.  Its actually going pretty quickly.  Once fully colonized is my best shot for a successful harvest to fruit in the bag or move it to a small mono and add a casing layer then go to fruiting once I see approx 10% coverage on the casing.  Bare with me, I'm still learning.  I sometimes find gaining knowledge this forum is like drinking from a fire hose.  I need a bigger brain :smile:


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: jrc5]
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Pics are helpful. If it's an all in one grow bag and you used spores to grain, then it may be microbial.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: johnukguy] * 1
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jrc5 said:
Best chance of success using a grow bag?  I have a grow bag going with PE.  Its been shaken and is in the process of colonizing.  Its actually going pretty quickly.  Once fully colonized is my best shot for a successful harvest to fruit in the bag or move it to a small mono and add a casing layer then go to fruiting once I see approx 10% coverage on the casing.  Bare with me, I'm still learning.  I sometimes find gaining knowledge this forum is like drinking from a fire hose.  I need a bigger brain :smile:



johnukguy said:
Pics are helpful. If it's an all in one grow bag and you used spores to grain, then it may be microbial.



:whathesaid:

we need pictures to more accurately assess the situation.

but if the combination is spore syringe or LC that was not tested via agar before inoculation then odds are that there is some form of contamination, you could be lucky and have gotten a clean syringe, but in the case of the former and not the latter (assuming your bag is bacterial) top spawning would definitely be the way to go.

we can give you better advice once we see a pic :gethigh:

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Prolific Koi]
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My most recent bmr grow I guess I wasnโ€™t so lucky? I took a bunch of caps from first flush expecting spores. Veil was broken for a good while, nothing. I donโ€™t know if itโ€™s just the variety but they would always drop spores a day after veil has broken. Just my experience with bmr though.



It seems like everyone has a different experience with when the spores drop after reading through these, or as Dirtnapz said
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Donโ€™t think thereโ€™s a right answer, they do what they want anyway.



But I tend to get way better prints off later flushes than I do off the first for some reason.

Could just be me, but if not I wonder if it is the same reason why later flushes produce less but bigger fruits. Like when theres 50 sporulating fruits they are smaller and don't all need to dump massive amounts of spores, but when theres only 20 they are bigger and drop more per fruit. Sort of make up the difference like they do with size


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Yahra] * 6
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Yahra said:
How long until sporulating?

I guess 24 hours. Is this correct?





Oh, wow. That was fast. Printing...


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Yahra]
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Took left over MAZ Dark star and RW prints and put them together in a single dish. What can I expect? MAZ and RW together or a new variation? Just crossed my mind today that I might not get the same variations since spores inoculated together? Noob question sorry haha. Iโ€™m getting more spores from later flushes as well with the bmr.

Edited by Prolific Koi (05/22/23 04:32 PM)

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Prolific Koi]
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Eco earth coir. Is it normal to only need 3 quarts water with the standard cvg recipe? Using 4 quarts water with 1 brick coir, 2 quarts verm, 1 cup gypsum made the sub way too wet. Thinking my tubs are toast after using it.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: johnukguy]
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johnukguy said:
Pics are helpful. If it's an all in one grow bag and you used spores to grain, then it may be microbial.



All in one bag rye berry with a manure sub.  Inoculated w LC. MYCELIUM looked great before the shake.  Now thereโ€™s mycelium appearing sporadically throughout the bag as well as on top. Iโ€™ll post pics when I get home.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Nichrome]
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That sounds normal. The break and shake distributed the mycelium throughout the bag so you would have sparstic mycelium popping up throughout the bag.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: AspectOfTheCreator]
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AspectOfTheCreator said:
Eco earth coir. Is it normal to only need 3 quarts water with the standard cvg recipe? Using 4 quarts water with 1 brick coir, 2 quarts verm, 1 cup gypsum made the sub way too wet. Thinking my tubs are toast after using it.




If it's too wet, then throw some more verm in when you mix it. I'd not recommend some of PGT's videos to be honest. Some are good, but others are outdated, or just inaccurate. For example, gypsum does nothing for cubes. Plain coir, or coir and verm for substrate. No need for gypsum at all.

Look up Stipe & Cap's YouTube Channel, in particular his coir prep video. Also the Trusted Cultivator channel. Much better info on those.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Nichrome] * 1
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One brick of coir can vary drastically from another. Mine usuallly weigh between 550-590 grams per block. The recipe I use is 650g coir, 2qt fine verm and 4.5qt boiling water. I use burpee brand coir. Rarely ever have to adjust field capacity.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: HILLBILLY OUTLAW]
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HILLBILLY OUTLAW said:
One brick of coir can vary drastically from another. Mine usuallly weigh between 550-590 grams per block. The recipe I use is 650g coir, 2qt fine verm and 4.5qt boiling water. I use burpee brand coir. Rarely ever have to adjust field capacity.



I always make sure to use 650 g coir. Regardless, its always too wet. Ive changed to 3 quarts and it seems perfect now. Just wondering if using less water gives me a lower quality sub.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: AspectOfTheCreator] * 1
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So long as it's at, or near field capacity, no.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: johnukguy]
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I am going to make some LC jars and am curious how long before I need them should I mix up the nutes and PC?  Do I want to let it sit for a week to ensure no contamination is present or will it be good if pressure cooked properly?  I have an all american PC so I can monitor pressure.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: crash_compton]
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If you are good on your process you can just immediately inoculate them.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Screwup] * 1
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Thanks, so I wont need to make any yet then.  Just put spores on agar yesterday and it will be a few transfers still.

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