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Re: The Official Ukraine War Threat [Re: mushboy]
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mushboy said:
Russia sounds more and more like the version of the west you claim to hate.



I can't stop thinking this as I read pro-Russia ants push the state's narrative while they shit on America. Russian imperialism is American imperialism on steroids and krokodil. They make us look like the most measured, reasonable, and humble country in human history


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Re: The Official Ukraine War Threat [Re: Near Dylan] * 1
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Based on what metric? Your emotional response?


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Re: The Official Ukraine War Threat [Re: The Ecstatic]
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Mostly


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Re: The Official Ukraine War Threat [Re: Near Dylan]
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they’re no better or worse


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Re: The Official Ukraine War Threat [Re: The Blind Ass] * 1
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Only if you don’t compare the number of coups, sanctions, blockades, violations of international law, arms sales, invasions, and wars


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Re: The Official Ukraine War Threat [Re: The Ecstatic]
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Even if.  It’s just human nature through and through.  Keeping score means little if given enough time to rack up the count.


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Re: The Official Ukraine War Threat [Re: The Ecstatic]
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US has a more palatable track record of atrocity than Russia


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Re: The Official Ukraine War Threat [Re: Near Dylan]
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Read some reports that nuclear plant(s) (unclear ATM) is being, are being disconnected from the grid. It might just be reactors at one plant, IDK.

Not good no matter what side of the fence one is on.


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“I must not fear.
Fear is the mind-killer.
Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration.
I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me.
And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path.
Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain.”

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Re: The Official Ukraine War Threat [Re: SirTripAlot]
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Power to the plant was cut but has been restored


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NotSheekle said
“if I believed she was 16 I would become unattracted to her”

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Re: The Official Ukraine War Threat [Re: Near Dylan] * 1
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The Blind Ass said:
Even if.  It’s just human nature through and through.  Keeping score means little if given enough time to rack up the count.



Near Dylan said:
US has a more palatable track record of atrocity than Russia



So the US is worse by any objective standard, but I don’t like the way that makes me feel.


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Re: The Official Ukraine War Threat [Re: mushboy]
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mushboy said:
Actually Russia would of started ww3 by invading Ukraine and annexing crimea. Cause and effect bruh.



As Poroshenko admitted, Ukraine was preparing to retake Crimea and Donbas by force.


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I am in a minority on the shroomery, as I frequently defend the opposing side when they have a point about something or when my side make believes something about them.  I also attack my side if I think they're wrong.  People here get very confused by that and think it means I prefer the other side.

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Re: The Official Ukraine War Threat [Re: Brian Jones]
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Brian Jones said:
Funny though that you use Western media as a sources when it fits your interests, and the rest of the time dismiss them because they are Western media.



I'm actually pointing out the Western mainstream media collectively changed its mind to trick you.  That's why I don't trust them.


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I am in a minority on the shroomery, as I frequently defend the opposing side when they have a point about something or when my side make believes something about them.  I also attack my side if I think they're wrong.  People here get very confused by that and think it means I prefer the other side.

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Re: The Official Ukraine War Threat [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:
mushboy said:
Actually Russia would of started ww3 by invading Ukraine and annexing crimea. Cause and effect bruh.



As Poroshenko admitted, Ukraine was preparing to retake Crimea and Donbas by force.



After Russia invaded and stole crimea but it’s ukraines fault.

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Re: The Official Ukraine War Threat [Re: mushboy] * 1
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You're confused.  Russia expressed its NATO concerns BEFORE the invasion.  Poroshenko said Ukraine had been preparing to retake Crimea and Donbas by force since 2014.

If Russia didn't do anything and Ukraine joined NATO and invaded Crimea and Donbas as planned, it certainly could have been WWIII.


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I am in a minority on the shroomery, as I frequently defend the opposing side when they have a point about something or when my side make believes something about them.  I also attack my side if I think they're wrong.  People here get very confused by that and think it means I prefer the other side.

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Re: The Official Ukraine War Threat [Re: mushboy]
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mushboy said:
Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:
mushboy said:
Actually Russia would of started ww3 by invading Ukraine and annexing crimea. Cause and effect bruh.



As Poroshenko admitted, Ukraine was preparing to retake Crimea and Donbas by force.



After Russia invaded and stole crimea but it’s ukraines fault.



Falcon thinks it’s ok to annex huge swaths of Ukraine because Ukraine is resisting


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NotSheekle said
“if I believed she was 16 I would become unattracted to her”

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Re: The Official Ukraine War Threat [Re: koods]
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I never said it was ok, I said that's what's going to happen.


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I am in a minority on the shroomery, as I frequently defend the opposing side when they have a point about something or when my side make believes something about them.  I also attack my side if I think they're wrong.  People here get very confused by that and think it means I prefer the other side.

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Re: The Official Ukraine War Threat [Re: The Ecstatic]
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The Ecstatic said:
The Blind Ass said:
Even if.  It’s just human nature through and through.  Keeping score means little if given enough time to rack up the count.



Near Dylan said:
US has a more palatable track record of atrocity than Russia



So the US is worse by any objective standard, but I don’t like the way that makes me feel.



I think that deep down, the beneficiaries of American imperialism understand that someone pays the costs and are understandably anxious about an eventual comeuppance.  Russian imperialism is a reminder of what that could look like at some point so it makes people feel...bad.

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Re: The Official Ukraine War Threat [Re: koods] * 1
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If Russia didn’t invade and annex crimea we wouldn’t be here going back and forth about this dumbass shit.

Crimea doesn’t belong to Russia anymore this isn’t the 1600s Putin isn’t Peter the great.

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Re: The Official Ukraine War Threat [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:
I never said it was ok, I said that's what's going to happen.



So is it ok or not? That was the original question I asked days ago and you deflected and you are still deflecting


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NotSheekle said
“if I believed she was 16 I would become unattracted to her”

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Re: The Official Ukraine War Threat [Re: mushboy] * 1
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mushboy said:
If Russia didn’t invade and annex crimea we wouldn’t be here going back and forth about this dumbass shit.



You're confused again.  I was explaining why Russia feared Ukrainian expansion to NATO.  Ukraine would have attacked Crimea if they knew they had NATO support.  Poroshenko said he was planning to do this anyway.

mushboy said:
Crimea doesn’t belong to Russia anymore this isn’t the 1600s Putin isn’t Peter the great.



It was Russian from from 1783-1954, and from 2014-present.

I travelled there from Moscow in 2017, and they didn't even require a passport since it is Russian.

The people there will never go back to Ukraine, no matter what the politicians decide.


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