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Re: The Official Ukraine War Threat [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03] * 1
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It's reasonable to be suspicious

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Re: The Official Ukraine War Threat [Re: koods] * 1
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koods said:
Remember when falcon was convinced Gonzalo Lira was tortured and murdered by Ukrainian Nazis.


No, I don't remember.  Chopstick said he thought that's what happened, and I said that's not an unreasonable guess based on the disappearance of so many Ukrainian journalists.  Luckily, Gonzalo wasn't Ukrainian, so he only got kidnapped.


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Re: The Official Ukraine War Threat [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03] * 1
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:
mushboy said:
That’s what flat earthers say.


But it's very easy to prove flat earthers wrong, and no one's proving what I'm saying is wrong.


So? All you are doing is parroting the views and opinions of others particularly russian msm. I’d be proving them wrong you are more of a middle man.

Personally the US has little credibility about foreign intervention but I do believe this is a just cause against a dictator that wants to make gays illegal jail journalist  jail weed smokers and other extremely repressive policies that people here also support.

In short, fuck them and fuck russias invading ass with its right winged male dominated ideology.


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Re: The Official Ukraine War Threat [Re: mushboy] * 1
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mushboy said:
All you are doing is parroting the views and opinions of others particularly russian msm.


No.  As I've repeatedly pointed out, "the usual debate is 'my side is better than your side' followed by 'nuh uh, my side is better'."

I don't debate like that.  I show evidence, and I wait to see if there is counterevidence.

In the case above, we have evidence of Natalia Vovk entering Russia, going to Dugina's house, then leaving Russia.  What you have is "nuh uh, Putin did it, DURRR!"


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Re: The Official Ukraine War Threat [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
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:ohyeahwell:

Lies. I never said Putin did it I said he should be freaked out.


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Re: The Official Ukraine War Threat [Re: mushboy]
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mushboy said:
I never said Putin did it I said he should be freaked out.


Ok, you didn't say it, but you seem to be defending people who did (here and here for example).


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Re: The Official Ukraine War Threat [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
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:whateveryousayfreak:
I seem to be? Solid.


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Re: The Official Ukraine War Threat [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03] * 1
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Car bombings aren’t Putin’s preferred method of murdering people. He’s more into defenestration, weird poisons, blowing up apartment buildings and of course shelling entire cities into oblivion.


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NotSheekle said
“if I believed she was 16 I would become unattracted to her”

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Re: The Official Ukraine War Threat [Re: koods] * 1
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Here is an interview with Daria Dugina.

This video is good evidence of why Ukraine would have been motivated to kill her.  And at 2:30 it shows her next to an abandoned Javelin missile in Russia's hands.



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I am in a minority on the shroomery, as I frequently defend the opposing side when they have a point about something or when my side make believes something about them.  I also attack my side if I think they're wrong.  People here get very confused by that and think it means I prefer the other side.

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Re: The Official Ukraine War Threat [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
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That’s not evidence

You said the same thing about Gonzalo Lira. That’s his opinions were evidence that he was murdered by Ukraine.


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NotSheekle said
“if I believed she was 16 I would become unattracted to her”

Edited by koods (08/24/22 06:56 PM)

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Re: The Official Ukraine War Threat [Re: koods] * 1
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You're going to have to show me a link to where I said Gonzalo was murdered by Ukraine.  I don't recall ever saying that.

If you don't like the word "evidence" substitute the word "reason".


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Re: The Official Ukraine War Threat [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03] * 1
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Here is what I said about Gonzalo.


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Re: The Official Ukraine War Threat [Re: ONE OZ SLUG] * 1
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ONE OZ SLUG said:
Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:
Liz Truss says she’s ‘ready’ to hit nuclear button if necessary
Quote:
The foreign secretary told a Tory hustings event in Birmingham that she was willing to hit Britain’s nuclear button if necessary – even if meant “global annihilation”.



Okay, and?


Phillip Adams did an excellent interview with experienced U.K. journalist Ros Taylor on Liz Truss on Late Light Live last night.

If you thought Boris Johnson was an idiot Liz Truss makes him look like a Rhodes scholar.

Anyone interested in listening to the podcast the interview is in the first part of the programme. Hang around for the second part for handy hints on staging a coup! Phillip Adams is an absolute gem and clever AF :super:

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Re: The Official Ukraine War Threat [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:
Here is what I said about Gonzalo.


Lol if he had been Ukrainian he would have been murdered? That’s just as flimsy as when you thought he had been.


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NotSheekle said
“if I believed she was 16 I would become unattracted to her”

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Re: The Official Ukraine War Threat [Re: koods]
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koods said:
Lol if he had been Ukrainian he would have been murdered? That’s just as flimsy as when you thought he had been.


I said he "may have been" murdered if he was Ukrainian.


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Re: The Official Ukraine War Threat [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
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Wow, the Duran says it looks like Erdogan and Turkey are getting friendly with Syria, and this could have implications on the US presence there.

The world is beginning to resist US hegemony.



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Re: The Official Ukraine War Threat [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
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A lot of people here have said that Ukraine joining NATO would be no threat to Russia.  Putin actually layed it out pretty clearly before the war why it would be a threat:



For those that don't have time to watch, he notes that "Ukraine's doctrines declare Russia an adversary, and state the possibility of regaining Crimea by military force."

If they attempted regain Crimea by force while part of NATO, we'd have WWIII.

Poroshenko just recently stated he was planning to retake Crimea and Donbas by force when he signed the Minsk agreements.  :eek:


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Re: The Official Ukraine War Threat [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03] * 2
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Actually Russia would of started ww3 by invading Ukraine and annexing crimea. Cause and effect bruh.

Better further invade Ukraine to prevent them from taking land we stole and starting ww3. Nice.

Russia sounds more and more like the version of the west you claim to hate.


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Re: The Official Ukraine War Threat [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:
Brian Jones said:
Actually, I think Putin did it. Her father was very critical of the slow pace of the war, and even suggested regime change in Russia. That gets you prison or death.


Her father is fiercely pro-Russian, and the establishment media often refers to him as "Putin's brain".  But now they're calling him anti-Putin so they can blame Putin on his death.

You're being played like a fiddle Brian.


They don't even know each other. As ultra-right, and imperialistic as Putin is, Dugin is far more ultra-right and more imperialistic. He has been very critical of the way the war is going. He had more public influence in the 90's, but now he has only an ultra-right podcast, but he has influence in quite a few other country's fascist fringe groups, and he speaks about 7 languages. His daughter has been spouting these ideas to a much larger audience in Russia, and she may have been the target, not him.

Funny though that you use Western media as a sources when it fits your interests, and the rest of the time dismiss them because they are Western media.


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Re: The Official Ukraine War Threat [Re: koods]
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koods said:
Car bombings aren’t Putin’s preferred method of murdering people. He’s more into defenestration, weird poisons, blowing up apartment buildings and of course shelling entire cities into oblivion.


Ah yes but you see, that’s exactly why Putin should be the prime suspect.


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