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r3volution.gurl said:

Are you in the US? If you are, maybe the US should build a separate hospital for covid patients(China did it in one week) and have the US army run it(since they have the biggest army uninvitedly around the world). Literally problem solved. Unvaccinated people are not even close to the cause of issue. It's just stingy, shitty leadership and it's funny they got everyone believing unvaccinated people are the source of these problems lmao.

Honestly, it's a simple solution to the issue you're talking about for any first world country really.

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I completely agree with you sister.

Unfortunately this country is retarded beyond belief, and what is common-sense is often the last option considered.

Quite why it became like this I don't ever think I shall know, but the inherent inefficiencies of the modern world - I think - are mostly rooted in the political idiocy that the masses believe in, and so the circle-jerk continues, with millions of lives lost for it.

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r3volution.gurl said:

It's not actually easy to point the finger at leadership. It's just factual. But sure, stay ignorant. You're the one complaining about it. Those vaccine mandates are sure working bud. Also, it's not a vaccine when there's at least three shots required every year. I do not lie and I have no issue admitting when I'm wrong. You're just ignorant to the root problems. Maybe if Governments weren't corrupt piece of shit liars people wouldn't need to question what they are forcing people to do. It's just common sense.

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koods said:

There’s a nonzero chance society could kinda breakdown for a bit next week. There are going to be so many sick people, nothing is going to get done. Stores are gonna close. Inventory is going to get depleted.

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morrowasted said:

By the way, I clearly said that this issue could be resolved by a simple reevaluation of protocols. If it turns out that the newest versions of covid are approximately as deadly as we might expect any other coronavirus to be, then the current policies just are not sensible. There was a time when they were. This would all be much simpler than throwing a revolution wherein somehow only the best and smartest people get ahold of taxpayer dollars and utilize them to maximal efficiency.

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I'm not complaining about anything. I was just describing my experience at work. There was no inherently provax position outlined therein.

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The protocols were never sensible to begin with. That's why were in this mess lol.

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koods said:

No. The reason the hospitals are full is because there are too many unvaccinated people getting sick and requiring care. If the unvaccinated would get vaccinated today, all this shit would be over in a month. It’s fucking bullshit society is being held hostage by a bunch of high school dropouts and self styled revolutionaries. We need to go back to the way we used to take care of these situations. Fines and imprisonment until you comply. Your freedom of choice ends at your front door.

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morrowasted said:

I was actually just saying that there's a lot of people in hospital waiting rooms complaining right now, and that the solution is not as simple as "replacing bad leadership with good leadership". I would never go so far as to say that I know for certain if everyone had gotten vaccinated, that this would not be the case. The right course of action is determined at each juncture.

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Keep putting bandaids on an open wound bud. Didn't work before and will never work. The ignorance and excuses are real in this thread.

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The fines and imprisonment for refusing a shot healthy people don't need is a human rights issue. Your idea would legit cause chaos and war in your own country. You're actually insane lmfao. I feel sorry you have so much hate in you.

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We’ve done that for our entire history. People get fined for not having their kids vaccinated. The world you think you live in is a fantasy that never existed.

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morrowasted said:

they were absolutely sensible. We were dealing with a new respiratory pandemic that was causing an unprecedented number of people- many of them friends and colleagues in the beginning- to die in new and scary ways. They were largely to protect the healthcare workers. Had those protocols not been there, almost all of us would have walked away. Can you honestly say you wouldn't have done the same? If so all I can say is it is either because you are a saint, or because you haven't seen what we have.

The healthcare industry is, quite frankly, a huge house of cards that was already on the verge of collapsing before this. The only thing keeping many people in the industry is the use of unsustainable incentives in the form of absurdly high wages.

I suggest you seriously contemplate the consequences of a society without healthcare. Policies are useless without people to carry them out

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