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Re: Anomalies surrounding death of Nick Berg. [Re: adrug]
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not the same chair. you can tell just by looking at the photos.

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Re: Anomalies surrounding death of Nick Berg. [Re: ]
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they have giants and midgets ,fat and skinny,fairskinned ,darkskinned people just like we do

Indeed, its from all the McDonalds and money they have over there. Also fat is a perfect insulator against desert heat.


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Re: Anomalies surrounding death of Nick Berg. [Re: FrankieJustTrypt]
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Also fat is a perfect insulator against desert heat.



No fat people in Miami? Los Angeles? Dallas?

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Re: Anomalies surrounding death of Nick Berg. [Re: Ancalagon]
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No fat people in Miami? Los Angeles? Dallas?

Hehe,

You couldn't come up with one example outside of the US(THE fattest country on Earth)? Perhaps maybe a third world country? (I'm no expert but its a possibility that economics have some effect on the availability of food)

Africa, India, and Malaysia would have been better. Similar in climate as well as socio-economic factors.


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Re: Anomalies surrounding death of Nick Berg. [Re: FrankieJustTrypt]
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All he referred to his climate, hence my response.

Are there NO fat people in Africa, India, or Malaysia?

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Re: Anomalies surrounding death of Nick Berg. [Re: FrankieJustTrypt]
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FrankieJustTrypt said:
No fat people in Miami? Los Angeles? Dallas?

Hehe,

You couldn't come up with one example outside of the US(THE fattest country on Earth)? Perhaps maybe a third world country? (I'm no expert but its a possibility that economics have some effect on the availability of food)

Africa, India, and Malaysia would have been better. Similar in climate as well as socio-economic factors.


For one thing malnutrition combined with lack of good food or food at all will in many cases lead to bloating giving the indication of being fat. This however does not seem likely in this case.

If you think people are only fat in America you are very naive. Many many people from other countries even poor people tend to be overweight, even arabs. When life sucks all you can do is eat, sleep, and fuck.


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Re: Anomalies surrounding death of Nick Berg. [Re: Ancalagon]
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All he referred to his climate, hence my response.

Who's he? Me?

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Indeed, its from all the McDonalds and money they have over there. Also fat is a perfect insulator against desert heat.



Are there NO fat people in Africa, India, or Malaysia?

I like the emphasis on NO in both instances. Out of hundreds of millions of people that live in those countries theres got to be at least one who is fat. You win! Though I'm not exactly sure when the debate went binary.

When you have a country where half a million children have died due to starvation (and a per capita GDP of $2400) its safe to say that there isn't alot of food going around. Combine that with the fact that the climate is predominately hot and dry, with cloudless summers,(perfect for sweat inducing/fat burning - dry, sunny, and hot) You could venture to say that fat iraqi's are a rarity. Possibly even an extreme rarity.

Same goes with the other countries/regions I used as examples.


D33p,

For one thing malnutrition combined with lack of good food or food at all will in many cases lead to bloating giving the indication of being fat. This however does not seem likely in this case.

Yes this is a terrible condition that predominately affects children leaving them skin and bones except for a bloating of the belly. But I agree its not likely the case. Anyone that far into malnutrition would not be a good candidate to run around with guns and kidnap people in the midst of an occupying army.

If you think people are only fat in America you are very naive. Many many people from other countries even poor people tend to be overweight, even arabs. When life sucks all you can do is eat, sleep, and fuck.

I never said there are only fat people in the US, but it does, factually, have the highest rate of obesity in the world. Therefore making the comparison used earlier even more ridiculous.

Fat tends to be pretty common throughout the industrial world. I do disagree with the statement that many poor people tend to bne overweight. This is a phenomenon I am not aware of. Specifically in Iraq, there is little area that is arable, meaning most people will have to buy their food, which with little money doesn't seem to lead me to believe they will be over-eating. The people that do have access to arable land would most likely eat what they need to survive and sell their surplus, in an attempt to better their living conditions. And in the case of farmers, they'd be manual laborers, further reducing the chance of fatness.

I'm not saying its impossible to have fat iraqi's, I'm saying its highly improbable.


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Re: Anomalies surrounding death of Nick Berg. [Re: FrankieJustTrypt]
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And of course he many not even be fat so this is all fairly pointless arguing.


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Re: Anomalies surrounding death of Nick Berg. [Re: d33p]
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I got this from www.whatreallyhappened.com. I thought it was interesting.

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I know a Lebanese man whose visual acumen [and ability to put two and two together] is absolutely unparallelled. The only reason he survived a childhood in Beirut, unlike 99% of his peers... We were watching the news of "the beheading" when it broke, and he IMMEDIATELY said, "those are Americans, not Arabs." He noticed everything that we've seen mentioned, so far. But one thing we haven't. The scarves worn, AND the manner in which they are tied, are ALWAYS related to region and "family". Each pattern, tuck, and fold is precise, and tells other Arabs where the wearer was born/raised. My friend insists that the scarves worn in the video were donned and tied by people who have no clue. By people who believe Arabs just toss any old thing on their heads and tie it however they can get it to stay secure. And the only people he's ever seen do that were American soldiers in Beirut, and American actors in movies.






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Re: Anomalies surrounding death of Nick Berg. [Re: d33p]
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And of course he many not even be fat so this is all fairly pointless arguing.

Agreed, but it has given us something do for a little bit :wink:


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Re: Anomalies surrounding death of Nick Berg. [Re: Learyfan]
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I know a Lebanese man whose visual acumen [and ability to put two and two together] is absolutely unparallelled. The only reason he survived a childhood in Beirut, unlike 99% of his peers... We were watching the news of "the beheading" when it broke, and he IMMEDIATELY said, "those are Americans, not Arabs." He noticed everything that we've seen mentioned, so far. But one thing we haven't. The scarves worn, AND the manner in which they are tied, are ALWAYS related to region and "family". Each pattern, tuck, and fold is precise, and tells other Arabs where the wearer was born/raised. My friend insists that the scarves worn in the video were donned and tied by people who have no clue. By people who believe Arabs just toss any old thing on their heads and tie it however they can get it to stay secure. And the only people he's ever seen do that were American soldiers in Beirut, and American actors in movies.

This is interesting.

I could guess that this was hired mercenaries.

There are too many stretches you'd have to make for this to be genuine. One aspect of it being false brings the whole thing into question, therefore I have trouble believing its iraqi terrorists.

The fact that it is done in a shoddy, unproffesional manner makes me doubt it was done by secret intelligence, etc.

I have read that the coalition is really utilizing mercenaries and other hired guns. Keeps their hands clean, and if they are killed, they can refer to them as civilian contractors and not be lying.


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Re: Anomalies surrounding death of Nick Berg. [Re: FrankieJustTrypt]
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I know a Lebanese man whose visual acumen [and ability to put two and two together] is absolutely unparallelled. The only reason he survived a childhood in Beirut, unlike 99% of his peers... We were watching the news of "the beheading" when it broke, and he IMMEDIATELY said, "those are Americans, not Arabs." He noticed everything that we've seen mentioned, so far. But one thing we haven't. The scarves worn, AND the manner in which they are tied, are ALWAYS related to region and "family". Each pattern, tuck, and fold is precise, and tells other Arabs where the wearer was born/raised. My friend insists that the scarves worn in the video were donned and tied by people who have no clue. By people who believe Arabs just toss any old thing on their heads and tie it however they can get it to stay secure. And the only people he's ever seen do that were American soldiers in Beirut, and American actors in movies.



I saw pictures of them -- no desire to actually watch the whole thing really, even if he may have already been dead -- and here's what I'd say. So far as that goes, I'm totally unqualified to comment, what with the tucking and whatnot.
However, even if they're Americans, that doesn't mean that they're ours. Remember, we found at least one American associated with al queda.. this might be something similar. american terrorists. or they could be from another country, and still just be islamic extremists. It could be that they just want ISLAM to stand against america, anywhere and everywhere, and be damned if Iraq will fall to the great satan.

Honestly I'd put my money on something like that far before it being orchestrated by our own government. They cover plenty of things up well enough that they could do this. Hell if they were to do this I'm sure they'd spend the money to pull it off right. The military's not frugal.

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Re: Anomalies surrounding death of Nick Berg. [Re: Mushmonkey]
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I think it is possible that Berg was killed accidently while in either US or Iraqi custody. The video of the "terrorists" was mere damage control and done in sloppy haste. Perhaps the Iraqi forces goofed and quickly made a video before the US forces realized what they had done, and then the US forces went along with the plan realizing the massive backlash that awaited if the American public found out.


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Re: Anomalies surrounding death of Nick Berg. [Re: d33p]
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When you saw the head off of a human properly especially combined with reduced blood pressure due to being drugged up their will be noticeable but not excessive blood flow. By this i mean nothing will squirt but it will obviously drip profusely from the base of the neck.


How exactly do you know this?


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Re: Anomalies surrounding death of Nick Berg. [Re: Skikid16]
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A mafia hitman aka "the iceman" who was arrested and is believed to have killed hundreds of people either for work and for pleasure has gone into great detail about his killings and the knowledge he gained over the years. I was also facinated in general by serial killers and mass murderers as a child and i know a great deal about them as well as their methods.
Also there is thing called common sense. If you are pushing on the head toward the neck how exactly can blood spurt everywhere.


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