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Re: TWUMP 2020 [Re: meltdowner]
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meltdowner said:
Agreed.  Its so tiresome.  I dont understand how gays and trans can even say they dont have equal rights, they do!  Affirmative action is also racist against whites.  The hypocrisy is endless on the left.



Even Bill Maher hates the far left lol. Most normal people want them out of the country.


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Re: TWUMP 2020 [Re: The Blind Ass]
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The Blind Ass said:
I can’t afford bootstraps


bootstraps are free; they come with the boot :tongue2:


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Re: TWUMP 2020 [Re: Shenmue]
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Shenmue said:
Even Bill Maher hates the far left lol. Most normal people want them out of the country.


Political correctness isn't the same as affirmative action though.


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Re: TWUMP 2020 [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:
Shenmue said:
Even Bill Maher hates the far left lol. Most normal people want them out of the country.


Political correctness isn't the same as affirmative action though.



Everything that gives minorities an inch is unacceptable.


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Re: TWUMP 2020 [Re: Asante] * 2
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Asante said:
Everything that gives minorities an inch is unacceptable.


I think a pretty good case has been made that blacks are disproportionately poor, and therefore disproportionally disadvantaged growing up.

I'd be fine if affirmative action helped the very poor rather than minorities.


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Re: TWUMP 2020 [Re: Asante]
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Asante said:
Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:
Shenmue said:
Even Bill Maher hates the far left lol. Most normal people want them out of the country.


Political correctness isn't the same as affirmative action though.



Everything that gives minorities an inch is unacceptable.


Usually. Your skin color shouldn't advantage or disadvantage you. Correcting past wrongs now, is wrong. They say that two wrongs dont make a right. On that note, i was absolutely disgusted with the NFL and their rooney rules proposal

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Re: TWUMP 2020 [Re: Enlil]
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Enlil said:
meltdowner said:
Asian man and black man apply for job.  Asian man more qualified, but they need more black workers because affirmative action.  Asian man lost job because of his skin color.  Racism.


That's not how affirmative action works,  though.


Except when companies seek to diversify the workforce which specifically means hiring non white workers

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Re: TWUMP 2020 [Re: MagicMush123] * 2
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MagicMush123 said:
Correcting past wrongs now, is wrong.


I view correcting a wrong as right.

MagicMush123 said:
They say that two wrongs dont make a right.


Correcting a wrong isn't wrong though.  :shrug:


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Re: TWUMP 2020 [Re: meltdowner]
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meltdowner said:
Asian man and black man apply for job.  Asian man more qualified, but they need more black workers because affirmative action.  Asian man lost job because of his skin color.  Racism.


In college admissions affirmative action for whites take spots away from more academically deserving Asians. Try to resolve that with conservative attitudes against affirmative action in employment.


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Re: TWUMP 2020 [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:
MagicMush123 said:
Correcting past wrongs now, is wrong.


I view correcting a wrong as right.

MagicMush123 said:
They say that two wrongs dont make a right.


Correcting a wrong isn't wrong though.  :shrug:


How can you correct wrongs from the past?  Does that attempt to correct those wrongs hurt people in the present/future, if so, that's another wrong.

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Re: TWUMP 2020 [Re: qman] * 2
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qman said:
How can you correct wrongs from the past?  Does that attempt to correct those wrongs hurt people in the present/future, if so, that's another wrong.


For example:

If you want to run for office and you inherited billions, you probably have a good shot if you use your inherited money to promote yourself.  If you want to run for office and you're born in a slum, you have very little chance.

To correct this, we can pass campaign finance reform laws and give each candidate the same amount of campaign money, so only the most qualified person wins.  Seems fair, except the billionaire by inheritance will cry "WAAAH, NOT FAIR!  If I used my daddy's money, I could probably beat the more qualified guy from the slum!"


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Re: TWUMP 2020 [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
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How would we determine what makes one candidate more qualified than the next ? If we went off of relatable Job experience , Biden is waaay more qualified than Trump .


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Edited by Psilynut2 (05/19/20 02:43 PM)

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Re: TWUMP 2020 [Re: Psilynut2] * 1
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Psilynut2 said:
How would we determine what makes one candidate more qualified than the next ? If we went off of relatable Job experience , Biden is waaay more qualified than Trump .


A person having been a corrupt Congressman and VP makes them more qualified to be a corrupt President. I totally get that line of reasoning.

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Re: TWUMP 2020 [Re: qman] * 1
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Do you have any proof of his corruption ? Or is that make believe ?


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Re: TWUMP 2020 [Re: Psilynut2]
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Psilynut2 said:
How would we determine what makes one candidate more qualified than the next ?


That's besides the point of this example.  I was providing one example of how to hypothetically correct past mistakes.


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Re: TWUMP 2020 [Re: qman] * 1
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qman said:
Psilynut2 said:
How would we determine what makes one candidate more qualified than the next ? If we went off of relatable Job experience , Biden is waaay more qualified than Trump .


A person having been a corrupt Congressman and VP makes them more qualified to be a corrupt President. I totally get that line of reasoning.


Biden is corrupt?

Trump is corrupt to the fucking core. His whole existence has been dominated by graft and cheating.

Edited by koods (05/19/20 03:36 PM)

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Re: TWUMP 2020 [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
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Quote:
That's besides the point of this example.  I was providing one example of how to hypothetically correct past mistakes.


I know . It’s a curious example though , how does one gain the qualifications  to run our country when the grow up poor in a slum ?


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Re: TWUMP 2020 [Re: koods]
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koods said:
qman said:
Psilynut2 said:
How would we determine what makes one candidate more qualified than the next ? If we went off of relatable Job experience , Biden is waaay more qualified than Trump .


A person having been a corrupt Congressman and VP makes them more qualified to be a corrupt President. I totally get that line of reasoning.


Biden is corrupt?

Trump is corrupt to the fucking core. His whole existence has been dominated by graft and cheating.


I agree, Trump was a corrupt businessman screwing over other business people for decades. That's why he knew many politicians throughout the decades.

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Re: TWUMP 2020 [Re: Psilynut2]
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Psilynut2 said:
Do you have any proof of his corruption ? Or is that make believe ?


No more or less than anyone else in a similar elected position of power in the US in recent years.

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Re: TWUMP 2020 [Re: Psilynut2]
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Psilynut2 said:
...how does one gain the qualifications  to run our country when the grow up poor in a slum ?


If you grew up poor in a slum, you can still be for Medicare for All and ending foreign wars in countries that aren't a threat, etc.  Things your establishment democrats don't care about.


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