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Re: Caps' Prepless Pint Masters (PPM's):No BS WBS [Re: Caps McGee]
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Yes it helps, thanks! I'll report back with my results...eventually. Starting the process in the next few days.

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Re: Caps' Prepless Pint Masters (PPM's):No BS WBS [Re: badsponge]
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Awesome sauceome


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Re: Caps' Prepless Pint Masters (PPM's):No BS WBS [Re: Caps McGee]
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thanks so much for this thread Caps; been thinking for a while about how to decrease prep time and since i use pint masters for g2g transfers and am about to start transitioning to bags, this is the perfect time for me to find this post lol

I have a clean burma clone culture in the fridge imma expand to fresh agar tonight. will def prep some PPMs with the plates that result (i use oats) and post my results here.

More than likely ill end up using quart jars with the same amount of grain as im fairly limited on pint jars

ill also try a couple dif grain/water ratios to corroborate your results!

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Re: Caps' Prepless Pint Masters (PPM's):No BS WBS [Re: Caps McGee]
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Caps McGee said:
8 on the outside, 2 in the middle


:howyoudoing:

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Re: Caps' Prepless Pint Masters (PPM's):No BS WBS [Re: pixelpopper]
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Cool guys... why I shared... I'm not diluted to think any of my process is revolutionary: but it's a little different, and the various stages are applicable to other processes... any little tidbit we can take from one another: that's the primary foundation for all of this in fact


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Re: Caps' Prepless Pint Masters (PPM's):No BS WBS [Re: Caps McGee]
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I like it! Been doing g2g until 3-4th gen then doing jar to bag, like the idea of smaller jars with more noc points direct to bags. Would also be an easy way to make a bunch of jars for recieving lc to then noc some bags.


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Re: Caps' Prepless Pint Masters (PPM's):No BS WBS [Re: AyePlus]
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These are GREAT for testing LC as well: like, i dont evem test on agar if the culture looks happy in the broth... WBS Grains seem much less prone to bacteria than oats... seem to tolerate the extra moisture much better... thanks for that aye; something I failed to mention... EXCELLENT


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Re: Caps' Prepless Pint Masters (PPM's):No BS WBS [Re: Caps McGee]
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Caps McGee said:
WBS Grains seem much less prone to bacteria than oats... seem to tolerate the extra moisture much better...


Really?! Well shit, then why isn't WBS more popular? I've been all oats since starting. I decided to try your tek using millet in grain masters and transferring to oat bags. Should I just switch to WBS?

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Re: Caps' Prepless Pint Masters (PPM's):No BS WBS [Re: badsponge]
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Price.


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Re: Caps' Prepless Pint Masters (PPM's):No BS WBS [Re: Mycolorado]
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Well that's the only reason I need :grin:

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Re: Caps' Prepless Pint Masters (PPM's):No BS WBS [Re: badsponge]
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I'm on my way away from oats. My initial test on millet (aka the best of WBS :wink: ) have me walking away from oats. The differences:

  • Millet is $4 more per 50# bag
  • Millet expands less than oats (I need 15 cups dry millet for what I can do with 10 cups dry oats)
  • Millet handles hydration better
  • Millet does well with a quick overnight soak alone (less babysitting)
  • Millet is slower to take off from a2g than oats
  • Millet is faster to recover from a shake
  • After a shake Millet growth speeds explode, much faster than oats
  • Millet is producing much less bacterial spawn


So... yeah, I'm moving away from oats.


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Re: Caps' Prepless Pint Masters (PPM's):No BS WBS [Re: ShaperDreaming]
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dam straight shaper.

My only qualm with what you said is everytime i PC millet i have to literally bring an empty jar with my into the SAB to clear out some head space, as it expands like no other. Thats most likely due to me boiling it for too long, but i digress.

I fucking love millet. I may take oats out of the op, but my cultures really like it and the switch up from millet to oat is good for the culture, i assume. (<right?)


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Re: Caps' Prepless Pint Masters (PPM's):No BS WBS [Re: ShaperDreaming]
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ShaperDreaming said:
So... yeah, I'm moving away from oats.


Well fuck I just bought a 75# bag of oats! Oh well, I'll burn through it quickly enough. If you're switching to millet, I'm switching to millet!

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Re: Caps' Prepless Pint Masters (PPM's):No BS WBS [Re: badsponge]
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I'm running some prepless pinta o white millet meow. 1 cup o grain plus a heavy 1/3 cup water, like (1/3 + .5(1/3)) of water

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Re: Caps' Prepless Pint Masters (PPM's):No BS WBS [Re: Failboat]
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IMHO, GRAIN IS GRAIN IS GRAIN IF it's prepped properly... WBS has a wider window of what "properly prepped" means for whatever reason... This is not to infer it's superior to oats: there are other cultivators who'll tell you "FUCK OATS"... Oats are easy enough to prep, and cheap enough to go through a 50lb bag daily...

Region plays a great deal in availability and price of certain grains... Cheapest I can find millet is twice as much as oats at $28 for 50lbs...


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Re: Caps' Prepless Pint Masters (PPM's):No BS WBS [Re: Failboat]
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Quirkmeister92 said:
I'm running some prepless pinta o white millet meow. 1 cup o grain plus a heavy 1/3 cup water, like (1/3 + .5(1/3)) of water


DO NOT DO THIS! No shakeablility. On of my jars blew put and now I have to clean up millet mush.
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Re: Caps' Prepless Pint Masters (PPM's):No BS WBS [Re: Failboat]
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Gonna fluff too much prolly :shrug:

Oh, too late... that was weird ...


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Re: Caps' Prepless Pint Masters (PPM's):No BS WBS [Re: Caps McGee]
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Yeah I'll be adhering to the TEK next time lol got a good one here for millet.
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Re: Caps' Prepless Pint Masters (PPM's):No BS WBS [Re: Failboat]
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It's worked for straight WBS, filtered WBS, finch select (very little sunflower seeds), just millet, and oats! ALL at the same ratio... sadly: may have been the best looking oat jars I ever had


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Re: Caps' Prepless Pint Masters (PPM's):No BS WBS [Re: Caps McGee]
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Also... 1.5/3=1/2


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