Psilynut2 said:

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So that was the only violent act that took place?

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Dude fools from unite the right were committing acts of violence on their way there for practice.
  Too bad the cops didn’t see the deleted footage you say you saw . Perhaps these guys wouldn’t have been charged ?

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The men face riot and conspiracy charges, with maximum prison sentences of five years on each count, according to Cullen. The prosecutor said the investigation is ongoing, and additional arrests are possible.

The violence at the August 2017 event began ahead of a planned rally that the Southern Poverty Law Center described as the "largest hate-gathering of its kind in decades."

On their way to the Unite the Right rally in Emancipation Park, Daley, Miselis, Gillen and White had "hands taped ready to do street battle, committed multiple acts of violence, including punching, kicking, headbutting and pushing numerous people," the complaint said.

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https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2018/10/02/us/charlottesville-rally-inciting-riot-charges/index.html

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The Ecstatic said:

There you go again equivocating nazi violence with anti nazi violence

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The Ecstatic said:

Even IF anti fascists were killing as many people as the Nazis are (or even a single person), the anti fascists would still have the moral high ground.

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qman said:

The Ecstatic said:

There you go again equivocating nazi violence with anti nazi violence

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Preemptive violence isn't justifiable regardless of the inaccurate labels you put on either group.

The Ecstatic said:

Even IF anti fascists were killing as many people as the Nazis are (or even a single person), the anti fascists would still have the moral high ground.

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Again, you don't get to define the labels of these groups and then claim victory. Try again.

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The Ecstatic said:

Take a look. It’s in a book.

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The Ecstatic said:

qman said:

The Ecstatic said:

There you go again equivocating nazi violence with anti nazi violence

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Preemptive violence isn't justifiable regardless of the inaccurate labels you put on either group.

The Ecstatic said:

Even IF anti fascists were killing as many people as the Nazis are (or even a single person), the anti fascists would still have the moral high ground.

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Again, you don't get to define the labels of these groups and then claim victory. Try again.

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Yes it is and yes I do. As a user of the English language I have the authority to say what words like anti fascism and nazis mean.



And by the way, really? You don’t believe preemptive violence is ever justified? This is the same qman that’s cheering on a genocide of the global south on the basis of him being scared his standard of living might drop, right? Same dude?

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The Ecstatic said:

Sorry how do you define violence? Does it encompass a policy of walling off desperate individuals because they aren’t personally your problem?

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qman said:

The US and the entire world is full of walls and doors that prohibit entry, so enough of the "walling off desperate individuals" nonsense.

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Asante said:

qman said:

The US and the entire world is full of walls and doors that prohibit entry, so enough of the "walling off desperate individuals" nonsense.

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Plenty of people all over the world are shot in the face, so why not pick up the habit?

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How does the world being full of restrictions write a license to create even more of them?

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qman said:

The Ecstatic said:

Sorry how do you define violence? Does it encompass a policy of walling off desperate individuals because they aren’t personally your problem?

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Borders and national sovereignty aren't acts of violence.

The US and the entire world is full of walls and doors that prohibit entry, so enough of the "walling off desperate individuals" nonsense.

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The Ecstatic said:

qman said:

The Ecstatic said:

Sorry how do you define violence? Does it encompass a policy of walling off desperate individuals because they aren’t personally your problem?

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Borders and national sovereignty aren't acts of violence.

The US and the entire world is full of walls and doors that prohibit entry, so enough of the "walling off desperate individuals" nonsense.

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Just because everyone is doing it doesn’t make it not violence.


I would say violence is deliberately causing harm to someone. Even if I grant you that we “accidentally” raped Central America for a century, we’re still deliberately killing people by refusing to abide by domestic and international refugee law.

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For the next 20 minutes, Ben films as the group loiters a few blocks away from Cider Riot, waiting for Gibson to show up.

As the group waits, they discuss their weaponry. A few men try to guess which way the wind's blowing to avoid getting "spray" in their eyes, presumably when they use it against members of antifa. Another man holds a thick wooden dowel, and practices swinging it like a baseball bat. A woman carries a red brick in her hand. Some don goggles, helmets, and tactical gloves.

"Who's texting Joey?" Someone asks when the group seems to be without a game plan. Another man says, “Tell Joey and them to hurry the fuck up.”

Ben captures someone telling a person on speakerphone, "There's going to be a huge fight," and gives them directions to Cider Riot.

Ngo doesn’t film any of the conversations, and smiles when the group cracks jokes.

“He overheard everything,” Ben recalls, “and said nothing.”

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"Muslims walked in one direction for jumu'ah, Friday prayer, while non-Muslims went the opposite way. Each group kept its distance and avoided eye contact with the other. A sign was posted on a pole: 'Alcohol restricted zone.'"

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shivas.wisdom said:

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The Ecstatic said:

Aw man, the Nazi got caught being a nazi. And just last week people were telling me what a brave journalist he was and how he deserves a Purple Heart for getting milshaked

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Kryptos said:

Qman is not a nazi. He's clearly a Nationalist Conservative. Also known as a Nat-C, if you don't wanna type out the whole thing.

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