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Re: Official South Australia Actives Season 2019 ☆NO ID REQUESTS☆ [Re: shroomlass] * 1
    #26108041 -

Chin up, this coming weekend should be the best yet.


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Re: Official South Australia Actives Season 2019 ☆NO ID REQUESTS☆ [Re: brk] * 4
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Beautiful weather for a flush...

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Re: Official South Australia Actives Season 2019 ☆NO ID REQUESTS☆ [Re: taema]
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Hi there new friends this is my first post

My partner and I have been very actively foraging this season (My first season, partner has been before) with ZERO luck.. we are looking in pine forests in my area.

We went this weekend just gone and seen a whole lot more fungi then a couple of weeks ago but still no luck. Do you think we are doing something wrong or are we just unlucky!?!?

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Re: Official South Australia Actives Season 2019 ☆NO ID REQUESTS☆ [Re: Catopotato] * 1
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Might be time to expand your horizons. Some forests simply have very few to none. Other forests are prolific as.

Rather than heading into the pine forests, walk the outskirts (the road boundaries) and look for either grassy areas with woody debris (e.g. branches or pine needles overlaying grass) or bracken fern areas bordering the forest (not the SUPER dense thickets though, best if it is scattered bracken). Where native scrub meets pine forest boundaries especially along creek lines is a great place to look. If you find one it is almost certain there will be others nearby.

If you walk more than a few km and can't find any just move on to somewhere else. This time of the year they are very easy to find. No point wasting time when the next forest you check could have hundreds.

Great pics Samwich. Great example of the grassy habitat I'm talking about. These are the types of spots that I have the most luck with.

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Re: Official South Australia Actives Season 2019 ☆NO ID REQUESTS☆ [Re: Freakofnature]
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Pretty spot on what he said. It really is quite weird how you go to some pine forests and there are none, while some in particular have many, or even just a few. Its that age old question of how do spores get to where they are.

Even some ideal habitat locations just dont have anything show up. Its just a matter of keeping on looking around and exactly as the above poster has said at this stage of the year and weather conditions if you arent finding anything fairly quickly, then dont spend all day for nothing, move to another spot etc.

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Re: Official South Australia Actives Season 2019 ☆NO ID REQUESTS☆ [Re: myrealname] * 4
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Never hunted subs but most woodlovers the same in this aspect.
  Succsesful hunters note the sudtle difrences between aparent same habitats. Keen in on things that come together to make said habitat prefered. Tree type and location just the start of breaking down habitat. Take note of sun and  shadow pitch on sections of said habitat, note things like vegatation patterns and minute color changes or denseness in grasses and take note how the topagraphy flows and where leaves and debri settle after the winds. Where does moisture form(mossy rocks,crevesis)creases,over hangs,ect) note where said such moisture collects or merges and moves/flows a certain course. Keep in mind not in river or creek flows type scence, micro scale,micro climate. Micro like the dew in the morning even if just a vapour. What i'm getting at is getting out to the right area is a start, break the area down into many area's keening in on comon dinominators with other finds and there micro habitat/climate.

Hope some sense can be made my friends. As others have stated move theough spots with purpose. You will never see a experienced person bendin,pickin,scratchin there head. Theres no mistaken the real when you get on that mico level.

Also, if you no and feel they should be there but don't see anythang, get down and look from bottom off slopes up. Crazy how many troops be marchin on when veiwed from slightlky difrent angle.

Another tip i have trouble sticking too.
If in an area where your looking on way in and way out.
, its more productive to scan one side of trail/road/area one way than the otherside on way out. With 2 people works best because bothsides get covered in and out
. My reasoning is if scanning left right left right you dont realise how much eyes are adjusting on so many things.

Just tring to give advice from my many years of falling yet learning, and much more being succsesful. You guys all rock... thanks for sharing.

Psilo cyan PNW

We are all in this together.


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Re: Official South Australia Actives Season 2019 ☆NO ID REQUESTS☆ [Re: NothingsChanged] * 3
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^^ The world is watching. :usa:

Those cyans look a lot like our wavy cap type subs...



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Re: Official South Australia Actives Season 2019 ☆NO ID REQUESTS☆ [Re: NothingsChanged] * 1
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NothingsChanged said:
Never hunted subs but most woodlovers the same in this aspect.
  Succsesful hunters note the sudtle difrences between aparent same habitats. Keen in on things that come together to make said habitat prefered. Tree type and location just the start of breaking down habitat. Take note of sun and  shadow pitch on sections of said habitat, note things like vegatation patterns and minute color changes or denseness in grasses and take note how the topagraphy flows and where leaves and debri settle after the winds. Where does moisture form(mossy rocks,crevesis)creases,over hangs,ect) note where said such moisture collects or merges and moves/flows a certain course. Keep in mind not in river or creek flows type scence, micro scale,micro climate. Micro like the dew in the morning even if just a vapour. What i'm getting at is getting out to the right area is a start, break the area down into many area's keening in on comon dinominators with other finds and there micro habitat/climate.

Hope some sense can be made my friends. As others have stated move theough spots with purpose. You will never see a experienced person bendin,pickin,scratchin there head. Theres no mistaken the real when you get on that mico level.

Also, if you no and feel they should be there but don't see anythang, get down and look from bottom off slopes up. Crazy how many troops be marchin on when veiwed from slightlky difrent angle.

Another tip i have trouble sticking too.
If in an area where your looking on way in and way out.
, its more productive to scan one side of trail/road/area one way than the otherside on way out. With 2 people works best because bothsides get covered in and out
. My reasoning is if scanning left right left right you dont realise how much eyes are adjusting on so many things.

Just tring to give advice from my many years of falling yet learning, and much more being succsesful. You guys all rock... thanks for sharing.

Psilo cyan PNW

We are all in this together.


Get out of my hunting head.
I wish I could write like that.
Great post.
:freewilly:


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Re: Official South Australia Actives Season 2019 ☆NO ID REQUESTS☆ [Re: Samwich]
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:chesire:

Edited by The Thing (09/03/19 05:47 PM)

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Re: Official South Australia Actives Season 2019 ☆NO ID REQUESTS☆ [Re: NobodyYouKnow] * 4
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Great insights there FON and NC. It does take time to really get an eye in to the finer details. I remember the first time I tagged along with an experienced hunter. He'd just bee line from one patch to the next in an area he hadn't explored prior. Even with advice taken on board it took years to really get good at finding them to the point where if they weren't growing in a perfect looking habitat I'd return in subsequent seasons because I knew the timing was off. A mate thought I was crazy when I'd visit one particular spot each year and never find subs. They do grow here and in great numbers I proclaimed, can't you smell that mycelium? Then one season I frequented this same place to find it was infested with subs. The spot had started very late in the season (August) and put out just the one flush. It has done so every year since.

Most recently down south I ran into a group of hunters following creek lines and the fringes of forests in search of subs. A great place to start for sure but they weren't getting much for their efforts. I asked them if they'd tried further up on top of the hills in the shaded pines and they said they thought the wetter micro climates were the place to look.

Since the microclimates have seen many flushes earlier on they weren't near as productive later in the season. Those hills may see a lot of wind and dry out frequently early in the season but that delayed start makes for some big flushes come mid July as the ground finally soaks up enough moisture.

In addition to patches fruiting early/late and having few/many flushes some patches will fruit only bi-annually so even a relatively small patch of forest can take many seasons of exploring at various times to get to know the area well.


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Re: Official South Australia Actives Season 2019 ☆NO ID REQUESTS☆ [Re: bobwastaken]
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:chesire:

Edited by The Thing (09/03/19 05:48 PM)

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Re: Official South Australia Actives Season 2019 ☆NO ID REQUESTS☆ [Re: The Thing] * 1
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Great write ups and advice. Interesting to see how things change as the season progresses. This is my first year hunting subs and I've found three patches so far, plus another that was a tip from an old mushie hunter. I've been walking through patches and can smell mushrooms yet not found any. One spot just down from a very nice patch smelled strongly and me and a friend searched all over, but just found a couple. I'm certain it will produce some big flushes all over different parts of that terrain. I'll keep going back and keep an eye on things.

The place I was tipped off about isn't somewhere I would normally have looked given the advice on here and habitat shots. Doesn't look ideal from a Google Earth perspective, but it can produce hundreds of subs with several flushes each season. It's on a steep hillside, old native gum forest, no bracken fern, but underneath the foliage which you can't see on Google is clearly ideal. Grass growing, small gullies where water flows when it rains, kangaroos roaming. Others are onto it so i've only found a handful or two the times i've been.

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Re: Official South Australia Actives Season 2019 ☆NO ID REQUESTS☆ [Re: b.d17]
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hey mate, those ones on the right may be active, ive found some before that have major bluing upon pulling and have consumed multiple, ive posted some photos for ya. happy hunting!


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Re: Official South Australia Actives Season 2019 ☆NO ID REQUESTS☆ [Re: dynamicdave]
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Don't eat or recommend that others eat Mycena sp. Some are toxic, and they're not active.


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and the pattern picks the pockets of the palindrome, before the oscillating rhythm takes to flight..." - Rishloo


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Re: Official South Australia Actives Season 2019 ☆NO ID REQUESTS☆ [Re: brk]
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thanks for the heads up mate, I was told by friends that I thought were pretty well versed that they're good, i've only ever consumed small amounts and generally with other substances.

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Re: Official South Australia Actives Season 2019 ☆NO ID REQUESTS☆ [Re: dynamicdave]
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All good mate, it's just best not to make the call unless you're 100% sure of genus and species.


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and the pattern picks the pockets of the palindrome, before the oscillating rhythm takes to flight..." - Rishloo


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Re: Official South Australia Actives Season 2019 ☆NO ID REQUESTS☆ [Re: brk] * 1
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Found an amazing forest in the south today, a new area. Huge numbers of pristine subs throughout the pines in some places spaced only metres apart, patch after patch stretching indefinitely. Very potent ones. Recent conditions have clearly been perfect with huge numbers of fungi around. Ghost fungi in the hundreds.

The only real issue with this spot was the shear number of galerinas and another very similar looking species mixed at random amongst subs. The cap was an identical colour to subs, the gills on some were very similiar colour wise, and the stems looked similiar too minus the orange skirts on some and minus the bruising, which given the high quality growing conditions almost none of the fresh subs displayed much blueing either. Of course the texture felt different and stems snapped easier but in every other way they were extremely similiar to small fresh subs. I had never seen a forest with with so many dodgy look alikes, it would be a risky place for a noobie.

Other spots nearby to this whilst having subs scattered widely weren't as prolific and had much better flushes weeks ago

Interesting given what Bob mentioned above, the pines themselves were abundant throughout and only the odd one to be found in the gullies. Interesting in comparison to the north very recently which had early fruiting hill patches this season and now the gullies are where the action seems to be, at least where I've looked.

The difference is night and day between the north and south. Different ball game when it comes to hunting. Damn I love the south. I envy the time you get to spend there Bob.

Edited by Freakofnature (07/19/19 05:57 PM)

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Re: Official South Australia Actives Season 2019 ☆NO ID REQUESTS☆ [Re: Freakofnature] * 3
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I might write a guide later on, heres what i wrote on the habitat on subaeruginosa. Hope this helps anyone in their searches. I havent been on the hunt recently, weather hasnt been superb and have been working a lot.

Habitat

Habitat is quite variable with some definite common factors. The three common types of habitat are:

• Eucalypt Woodlands (Native forests, typically areas with greenery and not scrub-land)
• Pine plantations (Also typically areas with greenery, such as grasses and bracken)
• Mulched wood (Woodchips, mulched twigs/branches, also bark fallen off eucalypt trees)

Eucalypt woodlands with grasses and bracken, rich soil and fallen branches and bark make for a good habitat and a good one to aim for if you are a beginner. Eucalypt subs are generally medium-stout and of medium height. Grasses in eucalypt woodlands can be rank grasses or even a patchy matt of short thick grass. This provides water retention as well as keep the soil cooler and gives off more shade. In these same areas there might be bases of eucalypt trees with fallen bark blanketing the area round the tree and some branches on top. Fallen bark also has good water retention and keeps the soil cool, though it may take some time to colonize. It can be worthwhile keeping noting such areas and checking them in following years.


Grassy Eucalyptus Woodlands

Pine plantations are interesting choice of habitat for subs as they are an introduced species and fruiting is quite random, high yield or low yield. Subs that grow in pine forests are typically long stemmed and thin. Pine plantations are mono-cultures, though if other plants were there previously and have not been destroyed or some other plants have grown there at a later date, it is preferable.  In my experience, it is a much better sign when there is more biodiversity in a pine plantation rather than merely a blanket of pine needles. The same rule applies: rank grasses, bracken, fallen and branches. I think variations in the terrain such as creeks, hills and valleys are also better signs. These all form microclimates which can be conducive to the fruiting of subaeruginosa. They generally allow for water retention, shade, cooler soil and increased water runoff.


Pine Plantation                      Fallen Branch

Woodchips is the most condensed form of what subs like to feed on, and can yield the most per m2. The subs which fruit off woodchips are typically shorter, thick stemmed and arguably the most potent. It can take longer for woodchip patches to fruit, as they are generally in more populace areas.  Eucalypt, pine and mixed woodchips (such as a leaf mulch) are all good for subs. Deep laying of woodchips gives more room for growth and aged woodchips are easier to colonize due to nutrients having greater availability. Shade from trees and fences can shield sunlight making a much more favorable area. Ornamental and native shrubbery also provide microclimates such as Lomandra, Agapantha and Hardenbergia.


Landscaped garden              With Eucalypt foilage


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Edited by OOISI (07/20/19 04:44 AM)

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Re: Official South Australia Actives Season 2019 ☆NO ID REQUESTS☆ [Re: OOISI] * 2
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Here are some oddities from yesterday's hunt...


This sub grew in a spiral pattern from/along the ground. The cap was rather heavy and I'm assuming whilst growing the stem just could not support it to grow vertically.


Triplets!


And my first time finding a wavy cap phenotype :smile:

Habitat:


Also, where does everyone attain their desiccant or silica from? I'm not quite ready for a new pair of shoes 😅

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Re: Official South Australia Actives Season 2019 ☆NO ID REQUESTS☆ [Re: HairyYeti21]
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ebay i got some from china for cheap as, large packets, can put em back in the oven for use next year, or like i did, leave them in with your shrooms in the dehydrator. use salt  in the meantime to keep them in good nick, should be fine in the time it would take to get the real deal in the mail.
just seen 50x 1g silica packs from australia on ebay for under 10 bucks

EDIT: In the past i haven't had any luck with just silica and dried shrooms keeping in a cool dark place, this year im only leaving them long enough till i cap them, chocolate or in moonshine then into the fridge or freezer so hopefully i will have a decent trip in the summer time, by then usually they aren't  very potent IME but i have heard otherwise, maybe i wasn't drying properly, this is my first year with a dehydrator so could make a huge difference. just food for thought


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Edited by pinkban (07/20/19 09:16 PM)

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