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Re: Denmark leftists take hard right stance on immigration [Re: shivas.wisdom] * 1
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I answered.

I just don't think you like the answer.


You should chill out. Just relax, take it or leave it, and move on.

You get hung up on personal shit way too much.

Nearly every conversation I have with you devolves into talking about me personally.

Staying on topic is hard, but I believe you can do it.


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Re: Denmark leftists take hard right stance on immigration [Re: XUL] * 1
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XUL said:
I answered.

I just don't think you like the answer.


For sure I don't like it, because it wasn't an answer to the question posed.

shivas.wisdom said:
With that being said, do you have any reason to believe that things will be different in Denmark or is the anti-immigrant line all you need to blindly follow?


This question was asked after detailing the history of left-wing political parties that, similar to what we currently see in Denmark, were willing to compromise on their original ideals in order to gain or hold onto elected positions. Macron and LaRem in France, and Tsipras and SYRIZA in Greece are two strong examples of such left-wing political parties in the EU and their inevitable slide into neo-liberal policy.

Your answer?

XUL said:
Security, tradition, and peace of mind will occur for those who voted for the measures.


Which appears to answer an entirely different question. I didn't ask how the general population will respond to anti-immigration legislation, I asked what reasons you have to believe that Denmarks centre-left coalition won't follow the same path. Please try to stay on topic.







XUL said:
You should chill out. Just relax, take it or leave it, and move on.

You get hung up on personal shit way too much.

Nearly every conversation I have with you devolves into talking about me personally.

Staying on topic is hard, but I believe you can do it.


Care to quote the personal attack?

I assure you, any frustration you read in my response is projected by you. I actually enjoy tearing apart everything you post; the tiny amount of effort required is small beans in comparison. It's like a dynamic crossword puzzle.

Expect me to show up in every thread you post in this forum. Expect that every half-baked political thought you diarrhea all over this forum will be hammered unrelentingly by me. Expect me to keep it up until you start posting with substance, or you stop posting out of embarrassment.

And I can do it without resorting to personal attacks; and I can do it without posting off-topic. In fact, I'm pretty sure the only one of us who has resorted to ad hominem arguments has been you.

Have fun posting. I'll see you later.


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Re: Denmark leftists take hard right stance on immigration [Re: XUL]
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:ooo:

Edited by Thermal Visions (06/06/19 06:17 PM)

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Re: Denmark leftists take hard right stance on immigration [Re: Thermal Visions] * 2
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Close, but not quite.

I don't believe XUL posts on this forum in good faith, and so to put all my hope and efforts into trying to convince him of the shortcomings of his political ideology would be an exercise in futility; assuming he had ever put forth a coherent political ideology in the first place instead of the intellectually shallow posts we're usually given by him.

I don't care about changing XUL's mind, but I do care that his bad faith posting often derails actual constructive conversations on this forum, and so in response to this I am making an effort to reveal the true lack of substance his posts offer by providing good faith criticism to his threads and allowing his inability/refusal to provide any answers make the case for me - and if this effort results in a coherent critique of political ideology/policy that I disagree with, well fucken two birds one stone.

Plus I just enjoy breaking down weak arguments, and XUL's prolific posting provides a near endless stream of them.

Then I'll wash my hands and spend the rest of my time online providing an anarchist perspective on the various topics that grace this forum.


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Re: Denmark leftists take hard right stance on immigration [Re: shivas.wisdom]
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:ooo:

Edited by Thermal Visions (06/06/19 06:17 PM)

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Re: Denmark leftists take hard right stance on immigration [Re: Thermal Visions]
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I see you only just registered on the shroomery so it's likely you haven't seen our history, but trust me when I say that I do not dismiss XUL's ideas out of hand - there is ample supporting evidence behind my conclusion.

Of course, I don't expect you to take my word for it - stick around and you can draw your own conclusions based off what you observe.

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Re: Denmark leftists take hard right stance on immigration [Re: Thermal Visions] * 2
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Thermal Visions said:
You’re pretty exhausting




This sub would be a lot more easy going if certain people didn’t constantly derail discussions with their surface level understanding of politics.

I’d love it if we could discuss ideas but usually threads here consist of a premise, followed by 10 pages of “actually black people aren’t genetically inferior,” or “actually joe biden isn’t a far left socialist.”


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Re: Denmark leftists take hard right stance on immigration [Re: shivas.wisdom] * 1
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shivas.wisdom said:
You don't have to answer any question I ask, but your continued refusal or inability to answer them is an answer in and of itself.


Like this.

You can't talk to people without making a snarky comment.

You are obsessing over me.


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Re: Denmark leftists take hard right stance on immigration [Re: shivas.wisdom]
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Do you support Denmark's new immigration proposals?


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Re: Denmark leftists take hard right stance on immigration [Re: XUL]
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This question was asked after detailing the history of left-wing political parties that, similar to what we currently see in Denmark, were willing to compromise on their original ideals in order to gain or hold onto elected positions. Macron and LaRem in France, and Tsipras and SYRIZA in Greece are two strong examples of such left-wing political parties in the EU and their inevitable slide into neo-liberal policy.

Your answer?


My answer is that I don't believe you are correct as pertaining to Denmark.

Which is why I said the population will get security, Europeans, and everything they voted for.

See, I disagreed with you.

That's what you tend to melt down over every night in every thread.

Take that chill pill. Red pill


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Re: Denmark leftists take hard right stance on immigration [Re: XUL]
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Isn’t the blue pill the chill pill? The red pill sends your entire reality crashing down around wby opening your eyes to the truth. Not very chill.


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Re: Denmark leftists take hard right stance on immigration [Re: The Ecstatic]
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:ooo:

Edited by Thermal Visions (06/06/19 09:03 PM)

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Re: Denmark leftists take hard right stance on immigration [Re: XUL]
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XUL said:
shivas.wisdom said:
You don't have to answer any question I ask, but your continued refusal or inability to answer them is an answer in and of itself.


Like this.

You can't talk to people without making a snarky comment.

You are obsessing over me.


What does that post mean to you?

The lack of an answer is an answer in itself because the only reasons (I can think of) for why you would refuse to directly answer questions related to a thread topic you created (and therefore wish to discuss) is because you don't have the answer or you know that answering honestly would look even worse than no answer at all.

That's an accurate description of the situation, not a subtle personal attack.


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Re: Denmark leftists take hard right stance on immigration [Re: XUL]
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XUL said:
My answer is that I don't believe you are correct as pertaining to Denmark.

Which is why I said the population will get security, Europeans, and everything they voted for.

See, I disagreed with you.

That's what you tend to melt down over every night in every thread.

Take that chill pill. Red pill


I feel like you don't understand that simply saying "I disagree," is not a magic phrase in these types of discussions. If you can't provide some coherent reasoning for why you disagree, than you haven't made an argument.

Do you have any reasons for why you believe that Denmark will be different from other left-wing political parties of the EU that adopted similar compromising policy?


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Re: Denmark leftists take hard right stance on immigration [Re: XUL] * 1
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XUL said:
You can't talk to people without making a snarky comment.

You are obsessing over me.


XUL said:
That's what you tend to melt down over every night in every thread.


It's not necessarily true just because you write it.


Where you erroneously see snarkiness, obsession, and melting, everyone else sees a thorough dismantling of everything you call an argument or answer.  Regulars would feel embarrassment on your behalf if your posts demonstrated any semblance of awareness or being desirous of anything close to good faith discussion. 


Quote:
Take that chill pill. Red pill


Lolz

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Re: Denmark leftists take hard right stance on immigration [Re: relic]
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:ooo:

Edited by Thermal Visions (06/06/19 09:57 PM)

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Re: Denmark leftists take hard right stance on immigration [Re: Thermal Visions] * 1
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And I see someone who's just gonna delete their post so why even make a joke if the context is gonna be lost


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Re: Denmark leftists take hard right stance on immigration [Re: shivas.wisdom]
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:ooo:

Edited by Thermal Visions (06/07/19 08:09 AM)

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Re: Denmark leftists take hard right stance on immigration [Re: shivas.wisdom]
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shivas.wisdom said:
And I see someone who's just gonna delete their post so why even make a joke if the context is gonna be lost



Odd noob is odd.

I don't see any of noob's posts so it's like s/he doesn't post at all.  :shrug:

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Re: Denmark leftists take hard right stance on immigration [Re: Thermal Visions]
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Thermal Visions said:
:ooo:



I will give you one piece of unsolicited advice, though...you're gonna catch a ban if you keep up with that oddball posting style.  Don't know if you even GAF, but there it is.

Have a good one.

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