ninja cat 09 said:
mick said: Interesting that you think this is the only time consciousness has happened. I think just by the nature of the laws of our universe (which has accommodated the existence of life at least once) - it seems likely that life is going to happen again. Within a long enough span of 'time' - again, again, again, and again ad infinitum. It is kind of a scary concept really - it kind of means we are all living as part of the same giant consciousness within an eternal universe, but my conscious experience is here in this part of it, and yours in that part of it. That will change with time, but I think the blackness you are expecting - you will likely never experience, because A.) you wont have a conscious understanding to once it happens, and B.) there is almost certainly a cyclical process at play, and it is only a matter of time before your conscious experience is 'aware' somewhere else, and not necessarily right here reading this.
I think life is extraordinarily meaningful. I think the purpose of life is to be grateful for life, to be grateful to God (if you choose to believe that God is the creator of this process - I do), and try and live your life to better the quality of life for both yourself and others. I don't know what the outcome of such behaviors are, but in my conversations with God this is what I am asked to do. I just have faith it leads to something positive for everyone and everything.
As much as I think it should be a right of all living creatures to request and receive eternal blackness should they desire it, I feel that such an outcome is much less likely than the possibility of having another conscious experience after this one. I pray that we all have good ones, and that somehow, with the passing of time and positive efforts by all to better the experience of life, for all, there are less and less bad ones, even down to 0.
I think you misunderstood. Life is everywhere, and will always be until the eventual death of the universe, but consciousness for this thing we call ourselves is limited. Even if parts of it are reborn into another creature, it will have no memory and hardly any connection to out past selves, so in that sense, it ends, even if it is revived elsewhere at another time in another form.
I honestly wish I could believe in a god, which is one of the reasons I like mushrooms, I feel a presence watching over me, if not protecting at least observing me. But I find this difficult to justify in day to day life, all the pollution, suffering and death that surrounds us in a daily way alienates me from the notion that there is a god, and if there is, I don't feel particularly inclined to worship one that allows this to happen.
I do agree with you that it is difficult to comprehend why there is so much suffering - and surely I do not wish it on anyone, in any life/'afterlife'. I do think that it might just happen to be the nature of life in general, to compete - and a byproduct of that happens to be suffering. I dont know if suffering is so much 'God's will' as some would say, or if it is simply a part of the behaviors that come with the instinct of survival.
When it comes to human understanding - I think the level of conscious awareness we have attained is essentially a tool that lets us use the gift of life in either a productive way or not. I believe that so long as you arent hurting other people, you are likely living a productive life, even if thats just eating microwave pizzas and playing videogames day after day. You might not be leading a humanitarian effort, but you are at least enjoying yourself on some essential level without hurting others - even that life decision has purpose. It's people who use their conscious awareness to bring harm to the world who I think may be responsible for so much suffering out there - whether you can link their actions directly to suffering or not. Negative energy has a way of swallowing up the world around it. And as we've seen with past figure - just one person Hitler, Stalin, Bin Laden, etc.. can truly fuck up the world and cause so much suffering.
So imagine a billion people or more, doing bad shit (on a much lesser scale, but bad shit nonetheless) - that suffering that they put out there has an effect and consequence. And I think that might be more of an explanation for so much human suffering - rather than God intended for some people to have it all and some people to have so little. I hope that humans, as we continue to develop and mature into our mental capacities, will all begin to embrace positive actions, while eliminating negative imact decisions. If every human were doing that, I assure you there would be a shitload less suffering. If you cannot find any other reason for being alive, make it that - that maybe your good actions in the world will influence more and more, leading to something better for humanity - even if its long long after your current conscious experience has expired.
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