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Re: Life has no meaning or purpose 😐 [Re: Shenmue]
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Nothing lasts forever. But so what?

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Re: Life has no meaning or purpose 😐 [Re: psi] * 2
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Life is incredible. Life itself is just so amazing.
Yeah things can be sad and devastating. And it can
hurt. Like hurt really fucking bad hurt. And 10 minutes
later you can have the biggest smile and feel the love
and warmth of a long term friendship. Life is wild.
Death is part of life. Death provides life. Remember?
The circle of life !! Lol. But really.

You know what gets me down. The fact that there are
species of trees out there that can get mega old.
I'm so upset that I can't plant an american sycamore
and watch it grow over 100ft tall and live over 300
years. That sucks.

Life is soo precious. Enjoy it. Create more of it.
Really fucking live.Eat a half a  sheet and watch both seasons of planet earth and cry your heart out. Be amazed!

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Re: Life has no meaning or purpose 😐 [Re: psi] * 3
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psi said:
Nothing lasts forever. But so what?



But what if it did last forever, but in a way where "we" keep forgetting that it keeps on going? What if life just transistions and doesnt actual "end" as we think it does?

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Re: Life has no meaning or purpose 😐 [Re: LogicaL Chaos] * 1
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I hear yah Its just a transition in my part. And is cumulative.

The ancients had a one universal language. Before it was splitted to many. Its evident in our times.

Ive remembered that verse that thru hearing comes faith. Thats why we are gifted with hearing and its not only bound to our physical ears. Hearing also extends upto the eye by reading, upto the heart. So as languge/speech isnt also bound by our tongues/mouth. Infact fingers can talk too. Been observing children who havent learned language yet, its Kind of telepathic.

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Re: Life has no meaning or purpose 😐 [Re: pacmanbreed] * 2
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Thats a great quote there :sunny:

Its said in the parapsychology field that childern are more intuned with paranormal energy/consciousness.

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Re: Life has no meaning or purpose 😐 [Re: Shenmue] * 2
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Shenmue said:
This Asian kid is 100% right.





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Zhu Li, at the time you made the video your access to the information that is out there was substantially limited compared to what you known now, 5 years on. I hope you have been thrown clear of this mindstate.

The purpose of life lies not in how much you earn, how big your career or how red your Ferrari is, you are 100% right on that. Almost nothing that people consciously set out to do, has great merit.

You were a kid at the time. You were being funneled by the schooling system towards parking your butt into a successful career and your whole organism just SCREAMED "hell no I won't go" because you realized there are other priorities.

There are. Friendships, love, helping others on their path of life, raising a family, laughing at cat pictures, those are the priorities in life.

Direct Experience of the Now. Transcendence. Outgrowing your old self and transforming yourself, your life, and with it your corner of the Universe.

THAT's whats important.

Career and money can help, but as a goal in itself its a load of nonsense, its merely a means to the real goal - doing Good in all directions, most certainly yourself among them. Shine.

Necro reply, I hope you're OK.




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Re: Life has no meaning or purpose 😐 [Re: Asante]
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mick said:
Interesting that you think this is the only time consciousness has happened. I think just by the nature of the laws of our universe (which has accommodated the existence of life at least once) - it seems likely that life is going to happen again. Within a long enough span of 'time' - again, again, again, and again ad infinitum. It is kind of a scary concept really - it kind of means we are all living as part of the same giant consciousness within an eternal universe, but my conscious experience is here in this part of it, and yours in that part of it. That will change with time, but I think the blackness you are expecting - you will likely never experience, because A.) you wont have a conscious understanding to once it happens, and B.) there is almost certainly a cyclical process at play, and it is only a matter of time before your conscious experience is 'aware' somewhere else, and not necessarily right here reading this.

I think life is extraordinarily meaningful. I think the purpose of life is to be grateful for life, to be grateful to God (if you choose to believe that God is the creator of this process - I do), and try and live your life to better the quality of life for both yourself and others. I don't know what the outcome of such behaviors are, but in my conversations with God this is what I am asked to do. I just have faith it leads to something positive for everyone and everything.

As much as I think it should be a right of all living creatures to request and receive eternal blackness should they desire it, I feel that such an outcome is much less likely than the possibility of having another conscious experience after this one. I pray that we all have good ones, and that somehow, with the passing of time and positive efforts by all to better the experience of life, for all, there are less and less bad ones, even down to 0.



I think you misunderstood. Life is everywhere, and will always be until the eventual death of the universe, but consciousness for this thing we call ourselves is limited. Even if parts of it are reborn into another creature, it will have no memory and hardly any connection to out past selves, so in that sense, it ends, even if it is revived elsewhere at another time in another form.

I honestly wish I could believe in a god, which is one of the reasons I like mushrooms, I feel a presence watching over me, if not protecting at least observing me. But I find this difficult to justify in day to day life, all the pollution, suffering and death that surrounds us in a daily way alienates me from the notion that there is a god, and if there is, I don't feel particularly inclined to worship one that  allows this to happen.


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Re: Life has no meaning or purpose 😐 [Re: ninja cat 09] * 1
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Maybe this is the meaning of life 👼


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Re: Life has no meaning or purpose 😐 [Re: Shenmue]
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Yes its great!

You are completely free to determine your own values in life.

I find Nihilism to be very liberating


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Ach en wee ben ik de klos, met mijn boog schoot ik een albatros...

A philosopher is a person who knows less and less about more and more, until he knows nothing about everything.


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Re: Life has no meaning or purpose 😐 [Re: Shenmue] * 2
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Shenmue said:
Life has no meaning or purpose



Shenmue said:
If you're on the far left you're not a deep thinker at all.



Some might say, if you believe that life has no meaning or purpose, you're not a deep thinker at all.


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Let it be seen that you are nothing. And in knowing that you are nothing... there is nothing to lose, there is nothing to gain. What can happen to you? Something can happen to the body, but it will either heal or it won't. What's the big deal? Let life knock you to bits. Let life take you apart. Let life destroy you. It will only destroy what you are not.
--Jac O'keeffe

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Re: Life has no meaning or purpose 😐 [Re: ninja cat 09]
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ninja cat 09 said:
mick said:
Interesting that you think this is the only time consciousness has happened. I think just by the nature of the laws of our universe (which has accommodated the existence of life at least once) - it seems likely that life is going to happen again. Within a long enough span of 'time' - again, again, again, and again ad infinitum. It is kind of a scary concept really - it kind of means we are all living as part of the same giant consciousness within an eternal universe, but my conscious experience is here in this part of it, and yours in that part of it. That will change with time, but I think the blackness you are expecting - you will likely never experience, because A.) you wont have a conscious understanding to once it happens, and B.) there is almost certainly a cyclical process at play, and it is only a matter of time before your conscious experience is 'aware' somewhere else, and not necessarily right here reading this.

I think life is extraordinarily meaningful. I think the purpose of life is to be grateful for life, to be grateful to God (if you choose to believe that God is the creator of this process - I do), and try and live your life to better the quality of life for both yourself and others. I don't know what the outcome of such behaviors are, but in my conversations with God this is what I am asked to do. I just have faith it leads to something positive for everyone and everything.

As much as I think it should be a right of all living creatures to request and receive eternal blackness should they desire it, I feel that such an outcome is much less likely than the possibility of having another conscious experience after this one. I pray that we all have good ones, and that somehow, with the passing of time and positive efforts by all to better the experience of life, for all, there are less and less bad ones, even down to 0.



I think you misunderstood. Life is everywhere, and will always be until the eventual death of the universe, but consciousness for this thing we call ourselves is limited. Even if parts of it are reborn into another creature, it will have no memory and hardly any connection to out past selves, so in that sense, it ends, even if it is revived elsewhere at another time in another form.

I honestly wish I could believe in a god, which is one of the reasons I like mushrooms, I feel a presence watching over me, if not protecting at least observing me. But I find this difficult to justify in day to day life, all the pollution, suffering and death that surrounds us in a daily way alienates me from the notion that there is a god, and if there is, I don't feel particularly inclined to worship one that  allows this to happen.



I do agree with you that it is difficult to comprehend why there is so much suffering - and surely I do not wish it on anyone, in any life/'afterlife'. I do think that it might just happen to be the nature of life in general, to compete - and a byproduct of that happens to be suffering. I dont know if suffering is so much 'God's will' as some would say, or if it is simply a part of the behaviors that come with the instinct of survival.

When it comes to human understanding - I think the level of conscious awareness we have attained is essentially a tool that lets us use the gift of life in either a productive way or not. I believe that so long as you arent hurting other people, you are likely living a productive life, even if thats just eating microwave pizzas and playing videogames day after day. You might not be leading a humanitarian effort, but you are at least enjoying yourself on some essential level without hurting others - even that life decision has purpose. It's people who use their conscious awareness to bring harm to the world who I think may be responsible for so much suffering out there - whether you can link their actions directly to suffering or not. Negative energy has a way of swallowing up the world around it. And as we've seen with past figure - just one person Hitler, Stalin, Bin Laden, etc.. can truly fuck up the world and cause so much suffering.

So imagine a billion people or more, doing bad shit (on a much lesser scale, but bad shit nonetheless) - that suffering that they put out there has an effect and consequence. And I think that might be more of an explanation for so much human suffering - rather than God intended for some people to have it all and some people to have so little. I hope that humans, as we continue to develop and mature into our mental capacities, will all begin to embrace positive actions, while eliminating negative imact decisions. If every human were doing that, I assure you there would be a shitload less suffering. If you cannot find any other reason for being alive, make it that - that maybe your good actions in the world will influence more and more, leading to something better for humanity - even if its long long after your current conscious experience has expired.


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notapillow said: "you are going about this endeavor all wrong. clear your mind of useless fear and concern. buy the ticket, take the ride, and all that.... "

ChrisWho said: "It's all about the journey, not the destination."

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Re: Life has no meaning or purpose 😐 [Re: Mickalopagus] * 3
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I didn't read the thread. This type of attitude is not conducive of a happy life. I have battled myself mentally quite a lot to escape those Nihilistic pitfalls.


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Only hope can give rise to the emotion we call despair. But it is nearly impossible for a man to try to live without hope, so I guess that leaves Man no choice but to walk around with despair as his companion.

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Re: Life has no meaning or purpose 😐 [Re: Jokeshopbeard]
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Jokeshopbeard said:
Shenmue said:
Life has no meaning or purpose



Shenmue said:
If you're on the far left you're not a deep thinker at all.



Some might say, if you believe that life has no meaning or purpose, you're not a deep thinker at all.



That's not true at all. A atheist is a waaaaayyyyy deeper thinker than someone that is religious!! It's not even close! How do you think someone becomes a atheist in a religious society 😒. That was a stupid thing to say.

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Re: Life has no meaning or purpose 😐 [Re: Shenmue] * 2
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Being an atheist is dumber than being agnostic


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Re: Life has no meaning or purpose 😐 [Re: Shenmue] * 6
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Shenmue said:
A atheist is a waaaaayyyyy deeper thinker than someone that is religious!!



What utter horseshit. If you take what you're fed (I was raised an atheist; it's far from uncommon) without question then you become that.

A deep thinker is a deep thinker. It matters not one iota if they're left/right, religious/non-religious, black/white, etc.

The fact that you think you can ascribe capacity for deep thought to any specific group is beyond idiotic.

Edited by Jokeshopbeard (05/30/19 07:05 AM)

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Re: Life has no meaning or purpose 😐 [Re: Shenmue] * 4
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Shenmue said:
That's not true at all. A atheist is a waaaaayyyyy deeper thinker than someone that is religious!! It's not even close! How do you think someone becomes a atheist in a religious society 😒. That was a stupid thing to say.



I wish I was your age :sun:


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Re: Life has no meaning or purpose 😐 [Re: Asante]
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I'm honestly enjoying that fact that you're getting upset 🤣. Actually it is uncommon! Do a little research before you comment.

 
  2016

  Protestantism (48.9%)

  Roman Catholicism (23.0%)

  Mormonism (1.8%)

  No religion (18.2%)

  Judaism (2.1%)

  Islam (0.8%)

  Other non-Christian religion (2.5%)

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Re: Life has no meaning or purpose 😐 [Re: Shenmue] * 6
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I'm not upset at all, but I'd wager you're younger than 30, and probably by a mile.


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Re: Life has no meaning or purpose 😐 [Re: Asante] * 2
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The dumb don’t know they dumb..:smilingpuppy:


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Re: Life has no meaning or purpose 😐 [Re: Shenmue]
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Shenmue said:
  2016

  Protestantism (48.9%)

  Roman Catholicism (23.0%)

  Mormonism (1.8%)

  No religion (18.2%)

  Judaism (2.1%)

  Islam (0.8%)

  Other non-Christian religion (2.5%)



This is so much lulz. I assume you're doing that narrow-minded thing again and looking at American figures only, cause worldwide Islam is at 24%.

No religion/unaffiliated makes up for almost 1/5 of all humans.

That's pretty fucking common.


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Let it be seen that you are nothing. And in knowing that you are nothing... there is nothing to lose, there is nothing to gain. What can happen to you? Something can happen to the body, but it will either heal or it won't. What's the big deal? Let life knock you to bits. Let life take you apart. Let life destroy you. It will only destroy what you are not.
--Jac O'keeffe

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