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Re: I seriously don't get it. [Re: Professor X] * 2
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That’s bc 9/10 times the advice you give is terrible.  You’ve posted literally ONE picture of your grows and it’s a bunch of shitty cakes iirc....actually, here’s the one pic you’ve posted in your time here:
...bunch of shitty cakes and what appear to be contaminated and ill-performing subs, yet you say you’re getting six flushes.  :facepalm:  Around here one has to put up or shut up.  Stonesun’s pic says it all.


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Re: I seriously don't get it. [Re: Mycolorado]
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Mycolorado said:
That’s bc 9/10 times the advice you give is terrible.  You’ve posted literally ONE picture of your grows and it’s a bunch of shitty cakes iirc....actually, here’s the one pic you’ve posted in your time here:
...bunch of shitty cakes and what appear to be contaminated and ill-performing subs, yet you say you’re getting six flushes.  :facepalm:  Around here one has to put up or shut up.  Stonesun’s pic says it all.


He will never post his results.


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Re: I seriously don't get it. [Re: MechaLegend]
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Hey 10kVisions,Get rid of the microspore tape.
Replace it with masking tape.
Back off the lids a quarter turn on your pc cycle.
Tighten the lids as soon as the pressure is back to zero and cooled down some..

Also make sure your spawn and sub is not to wet.


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Re: I seriously don't get it. [Re: Professor X] * 1
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Professor X said:
I use single layer over 1/4" holes, never been a problem. I've never had a failure due to filters. I 100% assure you OP has trich hiding on his agar.



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Re: I seriously don't get it. [Re: sh4d0ws]
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[flash=,]http:/[/flash]There's a picture of a contaminated sub with bacterial spawn. Spit out 2 ounces dry 7 days after spawning. Alas it was bad spawn from popcorn. Multi spore injection.

2 quarts of spawn


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Edited by Professor X (05/25/19 09:57 PM)

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Re: I seriously don't get it. [Re: Professor X]
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what i love the most is how many people chimed in after my photos without reading the previous posts at all... so to al of you asking about things i already answered... please read the thread so i don't have to repeat myself.

... man you people love to argue. 

i've ALWAYS used MP tape. i used Polyfil the first 2 times i did this 6 years ago at my old house 5k feet below where i live now.  never had an issue with MP tape... so what changed there?  did the altitude affect it some how?  do you have an educated response other than just talking a bunch of shit? lol.  i do see the science side of it etc so thanks to those how chimed with that.

i appreciate those of you who have educated ideas to help and aren't just saying what im doing is "shit" or "fail" etc.  I've had grows... many many many grows... many with very very little to no issues as well. and ALL of them i never used agar.  SO... that being said. now that I'm running into problem after problem... I'm trying everything under the sun to figure out what is going on.  I'm open to try everything that will help narrow my issues down and get me to the bottom again.

p.s. my buddy who taught me uses MP tape.  Syringe knocks straight to WBS, PC'ing (at 9k alt) at 15 PSI for 2 hours.  his last grow yielded 14lbs.  so i have a very hard time listening to people who say these things are a "fail" ... as bodhi and many others on here have stated there's more than one way to skin a cat and some things work for people quite well that don't work for others.  obviously my previous methods aren't working for some random reason so I'm here trying to post and show what I'm doing in order to have the community try and help me narrow it down.

my interest is simply getting my grows back to how they were.  thanks to everyone who is trying to help.  i will make more agar tomorrow and PC it using polyfil. then i will  knock it and set it next to the ones i did today.  that way i can rule out the MP tape issue.


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Re: I seriously don't get it. [Re: micelio]
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micelio said:
Hey 10kVisions,Get rid of the microspore tape.
Replace it with masking tape.
Back off the lids a quarter turn on your pc cycle.
Tighten the lids as soon as the pressure is back to zero and cooled down some..

Also make sure your spawn and sub is not to wet.


thanks for the response.  can i ask why masking tape vs. micropore?

my sub straight is never too wet.  at this alt.  its more about how to keep it wet vs it drying out.  we have no oxygen.  Up here keeping this from being dried out is a challenge all in itself.  this is also why i use Bodhi's Unmodified tek. it REALLY helps keep that little extra moisture inside the tub i need fro this altitude.


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Re: I seriously don't get it. [Re: Raccoon]
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Raccoon said:
Micropore tape pores are bigger than most contams. Make your own judgment on what to use. It seems obvious to me, given that the pores are bigger than mold spores, to choose to just use a superior filter. Why not? It's probably not his issue, but fuck it, eliminate one more variable.



this is good advice and thanks for the follow up with the photos. as i stated i never had any issued with MP tape previously but honestly i don't even care i just want to fix the problems lol.  like i said I'm going to do a new set of agar tomorrow with polyfil and see if that changes things.
thanks for the response.
cheers


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Re: I seriously don't get it. [Re: 10kVisions] * 2
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Just because something wasn't a problem before doesnt mean it can not be a problem now.

Mp by itself is a shit filter. Period. So is masking tape(lolwut) If I were having contamination issues first thing I'd do is check my filters, my inoculate, then my grain prep. That's why people said to try a different filter/use agar ect..

If you MUST USE MP TAPE as a filter use 3 or 4 layers.

I've used tyvek and 2 layers of mp tape for years but just mp tape is asking for trouble.

Edit: do you vent your PC? Your sab holes are kinda small fyi. Syringe to grains is like wacking it too playboy. Worked for lots if us when we were younger but now we need that hardcore fart porn to achieve desired results(agar)


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Edited by mushboy (05/26/19 05:38 AM)

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Re: I seriously don't get it. [Re: mushboy]
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mushboy said:
Just because something wasn't a problem before doesnt mean it can not be a problem now.




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Re: I seriously don't get it. [Re: bodhisatta]
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If he had 7 rounds of grain go to the deadly ninja contaminants it would make him the unluckiest son of a gun on this board.


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Re: I seriously don't get it. [Re: Professor X]
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Nah, it would likely mean he’s doing something wrong. :shrug:  Like using one layer of mp tape allowing mold spores or fragments to get into his cultures, contaminating his scalpel blade by wiping it after flaming or inadvertently introducing contaminants when transferring through poor technique in some way that hasn’t yet been mentioned.


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Re: I seriously don't get it. [Re: mushboy]
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mushboy said:
Just because something wasn't a problem before doesnt mean it can not be a problem now.

Mp by itself is a shit filter. Period. So is masking tape(lolwut) If I were having contamination issues first thing I'd do is check my filters, my inoculate, then my grain prep. That's why people said to try a different filter/use agar ect..

If you MUST USE MP TAPE as a filter use 3 or 4 layers.

I've used tyvek and 2 layers of mp tape for years but just mp tape is asking for trouble.

Edit: do you vent your PC? Your sab holes are kinda small fyi. Syringe to grains is like wacking it too playboy. Worked for lots if us when we were younger but now we need that hardcore fart porn to achieve desired results(agar)



I 100% agree.  thats why I'm sitting here saying tell me what to do ill try anything lol!  nice porn analogy btw ha!  I have a ton of polyfill i can use so I'm going to do another round and try that now.  i follow Bodhi's teks to the letter on PC'ing (purging etc) and using the unmodified tek but the ONLY thing I'm doing different is using the MP Tape and now that we are all discussing it, its definitely pointing that direction 100%.  so, lets do another round and see how this goes.


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Re: I seriously don't get it. [Re: 10kVisions]
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:rockon:
Post results mang


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Re: I seriously don't get it. [Re: Professor X]
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Professor X said:
If he had 7 rounds of grain go to the deadly ninja contaminants it would make him the unluckiest son of a gun on this board.


actually i've had more than that lol.  i moved up to the new house in august almost 2 years ago now and have had only 2 tubs (10 jars) grow out of probably 1000 jars i've attempted.  hence why my profile says "annoyed"


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Re: I seriously don't get it. [Re: 10kVisions]
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Have you done drop plates in your home? Sounds like an extreme spore load. Excuse me if it's extremely hard to believe that mp tape is giving you a 0.1% success rate. If that is the case it's probably an environmental issue.


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Re: I seriously don't get it. [Re: Professor X]
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Professor X said:
Have you done drop plates in your home? Sounds like an extreme spore load. Excuse me if it's extremely hard to believe that mp tape is giving you a 0.1% success rate. If that is the case it's probably an environmental issue.



no, ash this time I'm setting up jars that will be un touched with both MP tape and polyfil and I'm going to let them sit in different rooms (one of each) at the same temp and just let them sit un knocked etc and see if anything gows on its own.  again eliminating the possible issues of contained area in general, MP tape issues etc.  I'm also doing new agar as we speak with poly fill to set next to the ones i did yesterday using the EXACT same technics to see what happens too


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Re: I seriously don't get it. [Re: 10kVisions]
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I hear you. I have a MP taped popcorn control jar from 3/20, still smells like, well, corn. Popcorn contaminates the fastest too, mess one up and it's 37 colors in 3 days.


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Re: I seriously don't get it. [Re: Professor X]
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so another thing i would like to point out is that the Pasty White tek for agar calls for MP tape.  hence why i was using it.  following his tek exactly and just adjusting the PC pressure for my alt.


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Re: I seriously don't get it. [Re: 10kVisions]
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I poke a hole in both sides with a scalpel and cover with mp tape. It's nearly impossible for mold to fall into a tiny hole in a vertical surface.

Sometimes I wonder when the last time the mods went through the sticky teks. "Follow the goddamn tek", "I did", "not that tek, the other one next to it", "StoOpeD nO0bS cNt FoLloW TeKS"


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