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What does it mean when a couple kernels of grain don't fully colonize?
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Iv'e noticed this before, not sure if its the starts of some kind of sectoring.But ive noticed now
and again a couple grains wont fully
colonize. Is that normal or a sign of contamination?? Thanks for the help!


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Re: What does it mean when a couple kernels of grain don't fully colonize? [Re: GoodVibrations]
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Looks like there just smashed against the glass.


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Re: What does it mean when a couple kernels of grain don't fully colonize? [Re: Hillbillyjohn]
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Bacteria, it should be fine, just let it roll. It's common.


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Re: What does it mean when a couple kernels of grain don't fully colonize? [Re: Professor X]
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Ahhh, I see. I knew it looked a bit weird, but ill let it roll and keep the transfers going. Thanks for the help guys

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Re: What does it mean when a couple kernels of grain don't fully colonize? [Re: GoodVibrations]
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I stay away from doing g2g when I see that, but don’t worry about spawning them.


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Re: What does it mean when a couple kernels of grain don't fully colonize? [Re: Land Trout]
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Well those are my  master jars. So if I transfer those to smaller jars, it may become an issue?

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Re: What does it mean when a couple kernels of grain don't fully colonize? [Re: GoodVibrations]
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Well I can’t really tell you from experience.  My thought are that those grains are wet on the outside from a bloom of bacteria, so that prevented the fungus from colonizing those kernels.  So if you put that in with sterilized grains that might be a good medium for more of that bacteria to grow.  I’d like to hear another’s idea or experience on that.


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A woodlover genetic theory
holofracatl's Woodlover grows
Tweeq's woodlover grow
Liloldme's grow

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Re: What does it mean when a couple kernels of grain don't fully colonize? [Re: GoodVibrations]
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GoodVibrations said:
Well those are my  master jars. So if I transfer those to smaller jars, it may become an issue?


It will become an issue. I've had similar jars that I tried to use as masters, those tubs we're so bacterial that they contaminated with mold before the first flush. Spawn them to shoe boxes is my suggestion. Forget about mastering them, you don't want to g2g anything that isn't perfectly clean ime.


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Re: What does it mean when a couple kernels of grain don't fully colonize? [Re: southbounpachyderm]
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I know it's off topic and I apologize for that but I literally had to go listen to this live version of southbound pachyderm after seeing the above poster's name..thanks for reminding me to listen to that every now and again


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Re: What does it mean when a couple kernels of grain don't fully colonize? [Re: TheStallionMang]
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It's bacteria. It's not fine, it's trash. Try again.

IDK when this trend of spawning bacterial jars started but it's crap.


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Re: What does it mean when a couple kernels of grain don't fully colonize? [Re: Alchemycologist] * 1
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Alchemycologist said:
It's bacteria. It's not fine, it's trash. Try again.

IDK when this trend of spawning bacterial jars started but it's crap.


To you I say meh. You still get fruits out of bacterial jars and imo if a noob wants fruits then it is completely fine to spawn them and reap the rewards. Suggesting for him to g2g would be terrible but throwing them in a shoebox at a 1:2 ratio will produce results. I've spawned way more bacterial jars and still netted an ounce and a half per shoebox after 2 flushes. Yes, it is something to look out for in the future, yes it is not optimal, but at the end of the day if it fruits, it fruits. If it doesn't, oh well, back to square one. Which is exactly where they would be if they just tossed it.

Also, Glad to help remind people PRIMUS SUCKS.


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Re: What does it mean when a couple kernels of grain don't fully colonize? [Re: southbounpachyderm]
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They sure do :wink:


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Re: What does it mean when a couple kernels of grain don't fully colonize? [Re: Alchemycologist]
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Alchemycologist said:
IDK when this trend of spawning bacterial jars started but it's crap.


why tho

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Re: What does it mean when a couple kernels of grain don't fully colonize? [Re: Land Trout]
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That actually makes perfect sense. I think im just going to try to shoe box them, its at least worth a try. Thanks for the help guys.

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Re: What does it mean when a couple kernels of grain don't fully colonize? [Re: southbounpachyderm]
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southbounpachyderm said:
Alchemycologist said:
It's bacteria. It's not fine, it's trash. Try again.

IDK when this trend of spawning bacterial jars started but it's crap.


To you I say meh. You still get fruits out of bacterial jars and imo if a noob wants fruits then it is completely fine to spawn them and reap the rewards. Suggesting for him to g2g would be terrible but throwing them in a shoebox at a 1:2 ratio will produce results. I've spawned way more bacterial jars and still netted an ounce and a half per shoebox after 2 flushes. Yes, it is something to look out for in the future, yes it is not optimal, but at the end of the day if it fruits, it fruits. If it doesn't, oh well, back to square one. Which is exactly where they would be if they just tossed it.

Also, Glad to help remind people PRIMUS SUCKS.


Bacteria leads to mold and low standards leads to bad growers.

To you I say raise your standards.


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Re: What does it mean when a couple kernels of grain don't fully colonize? [Re: GoodVibrations]
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I am having a similar issue. I figure more pics can't hurt. What do you all think? It really just looks like grain pushed up to the glass and condensation, I have a bad feeling you'll tell me bacteria  :sad: This is 23 days of colonization. Condensation only appeared about a week ago, it seemed pretty dry for awhile.

The Jar, close-up 1, 2, 3


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Re: What does it mean when a couple kernels of grain don't fully colonize? [Re: Alchemycologist]
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I’ve spawned so much bacterial grain and It works.  I’ve got a shoebox that I spawned in March with far worse spawn that’s still putting out fruits, it’s out lived a younger shoebox that had better looking spawn.  So it’s fine.


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Moricz cellar
D3’s agar tek
A woodlover genetic theory
holofracatl's Woodlover grows
Tweeq's woodlover grow
Liloldme's grow

Edited by Land Trout (05/19/19 05:49 PM)

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Re: What does it mean when a couple kernels of grain don't fully colonize? [Re: Raccoon]
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Did you shake these at all?


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Re: What does it mean when a couple kernels of grain don't fully colonize? [Re: Alchemycologist]
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Alchemycologist said:
Bacteria leads to mold and low standards leads to bad growers.

To you I say raise your standards.


Shut it down everyone. If your spawn isn't completely perfect don't spawn it. Who cares if you will get fruits and experience. Not necessary as a learning experience or anything.


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Re: What does it mean when a couple kernels of grain don't fully colonize? [Re: southbounpachyderm]
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Yes, at 30%. It took so long because I inoculated with a small agar piece and didn't shake it much after inoculation... This jar has been consolidating for about 5 days. I'm waiting for another jar to catch up before going to substrate. And, of course, maybe the potential bacteria inhibited :shrug:


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