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Re: Cast Iron Skillets [Re: Lophosaurus]
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Lophosaurus said:
It doesn't need soap. Just wipe it out, oil if needed, and put it away. The thing with cast iron is that it holds heat really well so next time you cook you let the pan get hot and that kills anything that could still be living on the pan, which is nothing. Using soap is just being wasteful and I think it gets absorbed into the pan and then gets back into  your food. Does your food ever have a soapy taste?



Never


I don’t have to hope that something living on the pan might die when I heat it up, I keep it clean.

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Re: Cast Iron Skillets [Re: mendocino_beano]
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we have one that is my great grandfathers its old as shit, only marking I can tell from it is a little number 8 on the handle. its a trooper :salute:


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Re: Cast Iron Skillets [Re: spirit_shadow] * 2
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We whipped up a Dutch Baby for lunch today.  Threw on some beefsteak tomatoes, prosciutto, sautéed spinach and arugula, with melted Gruyere cheese.  So bomb!




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Re: Cast Iron Skillets [Re: Lophosaurus]
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Lophosaurus said:
It doesn't need soap. Just wipe it out, oil if needed, and put it away. The thing with cast iron is that it holds heat really well so next time you cook you let the pan get hot and that kills anything that could still be living on the pan, which is nothing. Using soap is just being wasteful and I think it gets absorbed into the pan and then gets back into  your food. Does your food ever have a soapy taste?



Heck,
If you clean your pan out after cooking there's no bacteria the cooking killed it. You wipe the pan out. No new bacteria can grow. And its dry so no bacteria could grow even if it landed on the pan during storage. Then you re heat your pan next time you need it.

The only time there's bacteria in a cast pan is immediately after putting raw food into it for the few seconds it takes to die from cooking.

If you put a cast iron pan in dish water idk what to say that's lazy and retarded. No wonder it would smell. That's fucked


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Re: Cast Iron Skillets [Re: bodhisatta]
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also if it makes anyone feel better you are inhaling mold spores all the time :thumbup:

Edit: clean that :p


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Edited by spirit_shadow (05/12/19 01:04 PM)

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Re: Cast Iron Skillets [Re: spirit_shadow]
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The Theory: Seasoning is a thin layer of oil that coats the inside of your skillet. Soap is designed to remove oil, therefore soap will damage your seasoning.

The Reality: Seasoning is actually nota thin layer of oil, it's a thin layer of polymerized oil, a key distinction. In a properly seasoned cast iron pan, one that has been rubbed with oil and heated repeatedly, the oil has already broken down into a plastic-like substance that has bonded to the surface of the metal. This is what gives well-seasoned cast iron its non-stick properties, and as the material is no longer actually an oil, the surfactants in dish soap should not affect it. Go ahead and soap it up and scrub it out.

The one thing you shouldn't do? Let it soak in the sink. Try to minimize the time it takes from when you start cleaning to when you dry and re-season your pan. If that means letting it sit on the stovetop until dinner is done, so be it.

Source.
Googles first answer.


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Re: Cast Iron Skillets [Re: pineninja]
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Its not a perfect impenetrable layer.  Soap every day will fuck it up.

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Re: Cast Iron Skillets [Re: cannabinated]
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The layer is added to every time you cook with it

I don’t get what the big deal is about reseasoning your pan

I’d rather reseason it every time if that means it’s clean. But it’s not even necessary. I’ll reseason it like every 5 times I’ve washed it. I’ve been using one of my cast iron pans for about 10 years now so I don’t think I’m doing anything wrong.

Not using soap is gross.

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Re: Cast Iron Skillets [Re: pineninja]
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pineninja said:
The Theory: Seasoning is a thin layer of oil that coats the inside of your skillet. Soap is designed to remove oil, therefore soap will damage your seasoning.

The Reality: Seasoning is actually nota thin layer of oil, it's a thin layer of polymerized oil, a key distinction. In a properly seasoned cast iron pan, one that has been rubbed with oil and heated repeatedly, the oil has already broken down into a plastic-like substance that has bonded to the surface of the metal. This is what gives well-seasoned cast iron its non-stick properties, and as the material is no longer actually an oil, the surfactants in dish soap should not affect it. Go ahead and soap it up and scrub it out.

The one thing you shouldn't do? Let it soak in the sink. Try to minimize the time it takes from when you start cleaning to when you dry and re-season your pan. If that means letting it sit on the stovetop until dinner is done, so be it.

Source.
Googles first answer.



Soap absolutely attacks polymerized oil. Otherwise it would be useless for soaking things to remove burnt on polymerized oil

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Removing Burnt-On Oil
We tested four methods for removing burnt-on oil to see if we could really do it without resorting to harsh chemicals.

In the test kitchen, our stainless pots and pans get a daily workout in many high-heat applications. Over time, a layer of baked-on oil and grease often develops that is difficult to remove without the aid of harsh, toxic cleansers. This scorched residue is the result of heating oil or other fats to high temperatures. When oil or other fats are heated to or above their smoke point, their triglycerides break down into free fatty acids, which then polymerize to a resin that is insoluble in water.

Is there a way to remove this residue without resorting to caustic chemical cleansers? To find out, we abused four stainless steel skillets by slicking them with several tablespoons of oil and heating them until it smoked and burned onto their surfaces. To further solder this resin to the pans, we then baked the skillets in a 500-degree oven for a few hours.

To rehab them, we let the cooled pans sit overnight with the following treatments: one coated with a thick paste of baking soda and water, one filled with straight vinegar, one soaked in a 20 percent vinegar solution, and one soaked in hot, soapy water. (Baking soda, vinegar, and soap all contain compounds that help to dissolve the fatty-acid resins and help them release from the metal surface.) None of these treatments was 100 percent effective; we still needed scouring powder and a metal scrubbing pad to remove the most tenaciously burnt-on bits of oil. But somewhat surprisingly, the hot, soapy water was the best treatment of the bunch, loosening the residue enough so that it required the least amount of elbow grease and a minimum of scratching of the pan’s finish to fully release.





Soap attacks the polymer layer making it more friendly for harboring bacteria.


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Re: Cast Iron Skillets [Re: bodhisatta]
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For what it's worth I've always used iron.
I was given a set by my grandmother many moons ago with the implicit instructions to never let it touch soap...and never have...different disc rags even.

I've never had a problem with rust and I've never had a problem keeping it clean.

I think the disconnect us happening here because people who use soap have had the same outcomes.

#doithoweversuitsyoubest.


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Re: Cast Iron Skillets [Re: pineninja]
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...and all this is the reasons why I use stainless and ceramic,lol.


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Re: Cast Iron Skillets [Re: pineninja]
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It's a vicious cycle.
If you have a thin / weak polymer layer, foods tent to stick / burn on.
Only way to get them off is to scrub like crazy, which damages the layer.

Until I build up a good thick layer I like to only cook greasy things I know will contribute to the seanon, but won't stick.

And so, this notoriously "low maintenance" pan becomes high maintenance.

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Re: Cast Iron Skillets [Re: flugelizor] * 1
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Steam is a far superior cleaner than soap anyday anyway. I steam my cast pans out.


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Re: Cast Iron Skillets [Re: bodhisatta]
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What about boiling water in it for a few mins then rubbing a clean rag through it?


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Re: Cast Iron Skillets [Re: DustyBottoms] * 1
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I just use a wet rag on a hot pan and push it around with a wood utencil.


So soap on cast pan people? Do you have grills? Cast grates or otherwise do you wash them with soap lol?


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Re: Cast Iron Skillets [Re: bodhisatta]
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Ha good point


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Re: Cast Iron Skillets [Re: DustyBottoms]
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tyrannicalrex said:
...and all this is the reasons why I use stainless and ceramic,lol.



The food isn't as good with those pans. They just don't hold the heat long enough which is very important when cooking. When you're making a steak on the stove top you don't want the temperature of the pan to drop 50 degrees when you put the steak in. With a cast iron the pan barely looses any heat and in turn you get a nicely cooked meal, a steak with crispy edges and not some droopy gray steak.

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Re: Cast Iron Skillets [Re: Lophosaurus]
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Word.  Same for chicken and pork chops.  And veggies I pull off my skillet look and taste like they were roasted over a fire.


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Re: Cast Iron Skillets [Re: DustyBottoms]
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I never use dish soap on mine I bake it with a alil oil salt and pepper


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Re: Cast Iron Skillets [Re: Wildmana]
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I use a high pressure sprayer in a booth I created within the kitchen.
I lost a wife over it and it uses up a lot of space and power but it's better than using soap.....


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