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Teflon will kill you, and its everywhere
    #5311111 - 02/17/06 04:58 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Summary: Teflon causes cancer ; To be phased out (c-8) by 2016


Where is the media attention? The same Teflon on your pans, candy wrappers, Fire Fighting Foam, in your engine oil, and on your clothing (to name a few) contains C-8. And guess what? Its now been considered a likely carcinogen. If you use a Teflon pan near a caged bird, it may very well die from the toxins(Many documented cases). It took 20 years for the EPA to finally recognize this, and it will take another 10 to completely phase out the product. 95% of the public has this toxin in their body.

Yet, you don't hear about it in the media as much as one would think.

I need some microwave popcorn. MMM'M those Teflon covered bags give it all the flavor.




http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/nationworld/2002808452_teflon16.html

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/01/25/AR2006012502041.html

http://www.theaviary.com/teflon.shtml

http://tuberose.com/Teflon.html


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Re: Teflon will kill you, and its everywhere [Re: SourceLimit]
    #5311117 - 02/17/06 05:00 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

so is pvc plastic all your food is wrspped in


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Re: Teflon will kill you, and its everywhere [Re: fresh313]
    #5311124 - 02/17/06 05:01 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

OMG I'm moving to the woods


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Re: Teflon will kill you, and its everywhere [Re: SourceLimit]
    #5311137 - 02/17/06 05:03 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

they harmed birds in figuring this out? screw it!


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Re: Teflon will kill you, and its everywhere [Re: Colbadol]
    #5311146 - 02/17/06 05:05 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Nono, theres many cases where a caged bird was near the stove, a stove with Teflon pans on the burner. The fumes killed the birds in their cages... Yet DuPont said there was no harm.

http://www.theaviary.com/teflon.shtml


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Re: Teflon will kill you, and its everywhere [Re: Colbadol]
    #5311151 - 02/17/06 05:06 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

wont someone please think of the birds :sad:


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Re: Teflon will kill you, and its everywhere [Re: SourceLimit]
    #5311167 - 02/17/06 05:08 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

In the 50s they made plates and bowls and cups with uranium paint. A huge number of things we do and use are "unhealthy" for us, be practical though.


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Re: Teflon will kill you, and its everywhere [Re: SourceLimit]
    #5311176 - 02/17/06 05:10 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

teflon is great for sensory deprevation


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Re: Teflon will kill you, and its everywhere [Re: dblaney]
    #5311189 - 02/17/06 05:12 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

I wanna buy a gun and live in the woods though :[

Shame all the deer have Mad Deer Disease (very similiar to mad cow disease (go figure)...


They also have rather large Talons :frown:


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Re: Teflon will kill you, and its everywhere [Re: Colbadol]
    #5311195 - 02/17/06 05:12 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

The smoke and gasses released when Teflon is heated to the point of burning is what kills birds. It's not something that occurs with normal usage, people who say otherwise are sensationalist just trying to get a rise out of people. Proper use of a Teflon coated pan is perfectly safe. I don't see why people don't just use cast iron pans. A properly seasoned cast iron skillet is more effective against stuck on food than a Teflon coated pan anyway. I've never had Teflon coated cookware, and never will.


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Re: Teflon will kill you, and its everywhere [Re: Charles]
    #5311214 - 02/17/06 05:16 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

"The move was is considered the EPA's most aggressive effort to restrict an industrial compound in more than 15 years, when it enacted a regulation banning asbestos."

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/nationworld/2002808452_teflon16.html


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Re: Teflon will kill you, and its everywhere [Re: SourceLimit]
    #5311231 - 02/17/06 05:22 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

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I wanna buy a gun and live in the woods though :[

Shame all the deer have Mad Deer Disease (very similiar to mad cow disease (go figure)...


They also have rather large Talons :frown:




find me a picture of a deer talon


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Re: Teflon will kill you, and its everywhere [Re: automan]
    #5311238 - 02/17/06 05:24 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

...My digital camera isn't working...

Edit:



Damn things will take you out without a second thought.



Notice the talon markings


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Re: Teflon will kill you, and its everywhere [Re: SourceLimit]
    #5311252 - 02/17/06 05:27 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

lol


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Re: Teflon will kill you, and its everywhere [Re: SourceLimit]
    #5311254 - 02/17/06 05:27 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

**duplicate post**


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Re: Teflon will kill you, and its everywhere [Re: SourceLimit] * 1
    #5311262 - 02/17/06 05:29 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

this just in.. everything causes cancer 


i eat teflon for breakfast everyday.. i scrape it off the pans and season my eggs with it... yumm :flowstone:


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Re: Teflon will kill you, and its everywhere [Re: Infrared]
    #5311280 - 02/17/06 05:34 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

i used to work around asbestos man i just held my breath whenever i saw any dust.

i heard it was all setup by organized crime as a money making scheme
they got it pushed thru as illegal

then all the people who tore out and put in new insulation made $ and kicked back to the gang


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Re: Teflon will kill you, and its everywhere [Re: Infrared]
    #5311292 - 02/17/06 05:37 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

"this just in.. everything causes cancer"

Exactly!

AND...

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DuPont wrote that "significant decomposition of the coating will occur only when temperatures exceed about 660 degrees
F
(340 degrees C). These temperatures alone are well above the normal cooking range." These new tests show that cookware
exceeds these temperatures and turns toxic through the common act of preheating a pan, on a burner set on high.




Wko the HELL does this??? "COMMON ACT", MY ASS! Do this just once and the pan is RUINED! WTF?!?!


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Re: Teflon will kill you, and its everywhere [Re: fresh313]
    #5311296 - 02/17/06 05:39 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

yea, i used to work around asbestos too...  it was this old ass grocery store. they said they got most of it removed, but i dunno.. that place was a pile of shit .. they finally tore it down.... 

which sucks, casue i use to blackmail the managers and steal food cause i saw a mouse in a box of pastries :lol:


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Re: Teflon will kill you, and its everywhere [Re: SourceLimit]
    #5311304 - 02/17/06 05:42 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Teflon terrifies me.



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Re: Teflon will kill you, and its everywhere [Re: Infrared]
    #5311335 - 02/17/06 05:47 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

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which sucks, casue i use to blackmail the managers and steal food cause i saw a mouse in a box of pastries :lol:





Ohhh, a prize


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Re: Teflon will kill you, and its everywhere [Re: dblaney]
    #5311379 - 02/17/06 05:57 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

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In the 50s they made plates and bowls and cups with uranium paint. A huge number of things we do and use are "unhealthy" for us, be practical though.




Hehe... United Nuclear sells those old uranium-glazed plates. They warn people not to use them for food though.

Teflon also has a nasty habit of leaching oils into things that you cook in teflon cookware, which can affect the flavor.


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Re: Teflon will kill you, and its everywhere [Re: SourceLimit]
    #27981377 - 10/04/22 03:08 PM (1 year, 3 months ago)

What are the current views about this? I know they're now using chemicals that are closely related to Teflon...


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Re: Teflon will kill you, and its everywhere [Re: SourceLimit]
    #27981403 - 10/04/22 03:19 PM (1 year, 3 months ago)

I switched to straight up stainless-steel pans. I still haven't thrown out the old pans yet tho... and the teflon is peeling off all of them... lol...

kinda crazy how we were talking about this 16 years ago and they still haven't banned them. I mean having them on pans is just asking for them to get scratched, peal, and end up in your food.


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Re: Teflon will kill you, and its everywhere [Re: s240779]
    #27981421 - 10/04/22 03:25 PM (1 year, 3 months ago)

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What are the current views about this? I know they're now using chemicals that are closely related to Teflon...





its much worse.

Its not just teflon but a group of polyfluorinated alkanes that are in very many products, and in our bodies, way less degradable than DDT.

They are dubbed "forever chemicals"


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Per-_and_polyfluoroalkyl_substances


If you have teflon cooking pots, retire them immediately. Avoid products containingb teflon such as certain bike lubricants and car waxes.

For frying pans, ceramic is just about ideal.


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Re: Teflon will kill you, and its everywhere [Re: Asante]
    #27981494 - 10/04/22 04:00 PM (1 year, 3 months ago)

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Avoid products containingb teflon such as certain bike lubricants and car waxes.




Why would things like that be an issue? People aren't ingesting them.


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Re: Teflon will kill you, and its everywhere [Re: s240779]
    #27981504 - 10/04/22 04:06 PM (1 year, 3 months ago)

The US doesn't ban anything unless like 50 billion $ of lawsuits pile up, we still use some of the most toxic pesticides/herbicides liberally


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    #27981527 - 10/04/22 04:20 PM (1 year, 3 months ago)

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Avoid products containingb teflon such as certain bike lubricants and car waxes.




Why would things like that be an issue? People aren't ingesting them.




nanoparticles come off, you inhale them or eveb absorb them through your eyeballs.


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Re: Teflon will kill you, and its everywhere [Re: Asante]
    #27981544 - 10/04/22 04:31 PM (1 year, 3 months ago)

I’m not dead from Teflon.


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Re: Teflon will kill you, and its everywhere [Re: twighead]
    #27981561 - 10/04/22 04:49 PM (1 year, 3 months ago)

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The US doesn't ban anything unless like 50 billion $ of lawsuits pile up, we still use some of the most toxic pesticides/herbicides liberally



we're too sidetracked with bullshit i guess


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Re: Teflon will kill you, and its everywhere [Re: SourceLimit]
    #27981566 - 10/04/22 04:52 PM (1 year, 3 months ago)

Death will kill you too and its everywhere :doge:


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    #27981571 - 10/04/22 04:54 PM (1 year, 3 months ago)

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I’m not dead from Teflon.




I’m actually 10% Teflon by weight


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Re: Teflon will kill you, and its everywhere [Re: koods]
    #27981609 - 10/04/22 05:24 PM (1 year, 3 months ago)

I knew an old 80 yr old guy who straight up would cook shit in plastic bags


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    #27981659 - 10/04/22 06:08 PM (1 year, 3 months ago)

a lot of places cook food in plastic bags. half the food at Denny's was heated in a plastic bag. albeit a 'special' 'microwavable' plastic bag. :lol:


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Re: Teflon will kill you, and its everywhere [Re: 336]
    #27981679 - 10/04/22 06:21 PM (1 year, 3 months ago)

many plastic bags are pure polyethylene or polypropylene, microwave bags usually the latter. They are foodsafe as long at it doesnt melt.


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Re: Teflon will kill you, and its everywhere [Re: s240779]
    #27984230 - 10/06/22 08:50 AM (1 year, 3 months ago)

Apparently nonstick cookware is safe if it's not heated to high temperatures.



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    #27984607 - 10/06/22 12:51 PM (1 year, 3 months ago)

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Apparently nonstick cookware is safe if it's not heated to high temperatures.







thats only apparently, hes not taking nanoparticles into account, which are unrelated to metal fume fever.

To smash his industry apologism to smittereens:

we all seen pots that have been in longer use where the nonstick layer is damaged, sometiomes partially absent. Where did all those particles go? In the grease, in the food, in your body.


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Re: Teflon will kill you, and its everywhere [Re: SourceLimit]
    #27984643 - 10/06/22 01:13 PM (1 year, 3 months ago)

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I need some microwave popcorn. MMM'M those Teflon covered bags give it all the flavor.





Wait how do you know popcorn bags are made from this? I fuck with some microwave popcorn


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    #27984656 - 10/06/22 01:21 PM (1 year, 3 months ago)

microwave popcorn is the worst offender food that exposes you to the highest levels. I hope they fixed that, if not, you literally eat poison, thatrs like cooking in asbestos.


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Re: Teflon will kill you, and its everywhere [Re: Asante]
    #27984698 - 10/06/22 01:47 PM (1 year, 3 months ago)

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we all seen pots that have been in longer use where the nonstick layer is damaged, sometiomes partially absent. Where did all those particles go? In the grease, in the food, in your body.



Most went down the drain when washed


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Re: Teflon will kill you, and its everywhere [Re: trees]
    #27985380 - 10/06/22 07:54 PM (1 year, 3 months ago)

Processed meats and red meats cause cancer.
And most people know this, yet pay good money for the privilege.
In fact, several times the cost of the safe foods.
Me too. It's too good to stop!


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Re: Teflon will kill you, and its everywhere [Re: SourceLimit]
    #27985640 - 10/06/22 10:07 PM (1 year, 3 months ago)

What doesn't cause cancer these days? It's almost like Russia and the US irradiated the entire planet with all their nuclear tests.



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