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Felt quite sick while tripping on mushrooms and hungover the next day... What went wrong?
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We took 3.5g dried of P. Cubensis each as a tea. We strained the tea so we only drank liquid, no actual solid bits. Because it tastes so awful, we didn't make much liquid, maybe two or three gulps to drink in total.

The trip itself was great, nice visuals, any music sounded so nice, etc.

But we had such a stomach and bowels pain during the trip that it made it very uncomfortable. Kinda like when you have a giant fart stuck in you but it won't come out. It was rather unpleasant.

We were high from 4pm to about 9pm. We went to sleep at 10:30pm and slept so poorly. It felt like we had a flu: shivering cold then super hot and sweating, a headache from temple to temple like the "bar" headache you can have after alcohol, constantly waking up and going back to sleep... Nice dreams but unpleasant night overall, and a feeling similar to being hungover the next morning.

We're rather confused, because we thought that mushrooms don't poison you the way alcohol does, and thus you don't get a hangover.

We also can't understand the stomach and bowels pain. Maybe it's because we didn't eat enough beforehand for lunch and what we felt were hunger magnified under the influence of the mushroom?

What did we do wrong? How can we make our next trip a more pleasant one?

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Re: Felt quite sick while tripping on mushrooms and hungover the next day... What went wrong? [Re: opsh]
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opsh said:
We were high from 4pm to about 9pm. We went to sleep at 10:30pm and slept so poorly. It felt like we had a flu: shivering cold then super hot and sweating, a headache from temple to temple like the "bar" headache you can have after alcohol, constantly waking up and going back to sleep... Nice dreams but unpleasant night overall, and a feeling similar to being hungover the next morning.



You slept with all your friends, and woke up with them too in the middle of the night? Must be some close friends lmfao


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Re: Felt quite sick while tripping on mushrooms and hungover the next day... What went wrong? [Re: Mad Season]
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Are you sure there was no contam in the cubes? Is this your first time doing the tea method? Maybe it was the tea, maybe it was your stomaches tryin to digest 3.5 worth of psilocin, im sure the whole 3.5 didnt go in there but thats still a hefty dose.

Ull eventually find your answers, whether it be within the topics i mentioned, or trial n error. Cheers bud.

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Re: Felt quite sick while tripping on mushrooms and hungover the next day... What went wrong? [Re: Chakanooga]
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I had tea before but it was lower doses (0.5g to 2.5g), it's the first time I was taking 3.5g.

I don't know about contams in the cubes. How could contams be introduced? Improper drying or contams while growing them such as trichoderma etc?

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Re: Felt quite sick while tripping on mushrooms and hungover the next day... What went wrong? [Re: opsh] * 1
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opsh said:
But we had such a stomach and bowels pain during the trip that it made it very uncomfortable. Kinda like when you have a giant fart stuck in you but it won't come out. It was rather unpleasant.




Gas in the bowels is kinda normal from mushrooms, this is not uncommon at all IME. I almost always get "gassy" from mushrooms. If your bowels are kinda "plugged up" then it is possible to get trapped gas which can be uncomfortable, it sounds like this is what might have happened to you guys.

I ate some mushrooms a few nights ago and I was very gassy the entire time, very very gassy lol....but I didn't have any trapped gas getting plugged up in my bowels/intestines, I could feel the gas pass through my bowels and it came out easily lol.







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We were high from 4pm to about 9pm. We went to sleep at 10:30pm and slept so poorly. It felt like we had a flu: shivering cold then super hot and sweating, a headache from temple to temple like the "bar" headache you can have after alcohol, constantly waking up and going back to sleep... Nice dreams but unpleasant night overall, and a feeling similar to being hungover the next morning.




If I ate mushrooms at 4pm, there's no way I'd be able to get to sleep easily at 10:30pm.

I'm not surprised you guys slept poorly considering how soon you guys tried going to sleep after dosing. Personally, if I dosed at 4pm, the very soonest I could lay down to try to get to sleep would be around midnight/1am, if not later....Mushrooms keep me stimulated and "buzzing" for many hours after the main portion of the trip has settled, I don't ever plan on getting to sleep anytime soon after dosing. I'm usually up for 10+ hours after dosing.

When I ate mushrooms the other night I ate them in the middle of the night around 2am and I was awake until about 1pm the next day, then I slept for only two hours that afternoon and was awake until 10pm that night before getting a proper night of sleep.

Body temperature swings are also not uncommon from mushrooms and psychedelics in general....Though I rarely experience this during the later portion of the trip and pretty much never once the trip has settled down. But during the come up and through the main portion of the trip I sometimes experience feeling very cold, and then hot, and cycling between them and having difficulty regulating a constant comfortable body temperature...But this really only happens during the come up/first part of the trip for me.







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We're rather confused, because we thought that mushrooms don't poison you the way alcohol does, and thus you don't get a hangover.





They don't....Mushrooms are not "poison". I have ate mushrooms 150+ times over the past 10+ years and have never experienced any sort of hangover from them. I usually feel better than I ever do during the later portion of a mushroom trip, the afterglow of a mushroom trip is one of the best feelings ever. When I wake up the next day I might be initially a little "foggy" or hazey, but once I'm awake and moving around I feel incredible. One of the many reasons I take mushrooms is because of how nice they make me feel the days/weeks after a trip.

If you guys experienced a headache then it's possible you were dehydrated. I don't know about you but mushrooms make me go pee A LOT, particularly during the first 2 hours or so after dosing, mushrooms pull out a lot of hydration from my body and there has been a few times where I have experienced a headache because of this after the trip/the next day....So if you aren't very well hydrated, or if you didn't replenish your hydration after the trip, this could lead to a headache as you describe.





It is possible that your diets, and how hydrated you guys are, might be playing a roll in experiencing the trapped gas/bowel issues and feeling a headache & hung over after the trip.

It is also possible that your mushrooms were contaminated somehow...but most of what you described isn't too out of the ordinary :shrug: .

Only bits of advice I have for you next trip....Stay hydrated, and don't plan on going to sleep so soon after the trip is over. I like to eat a good clean meal before I trip, but I don't eat on a full stomach, I like to wait at least 2 to 3 hours after eating before I dose.



Hope things are a bit more comfortable for ya'll next time around....How many times have you taken mushrooms/psychedelics?






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Re: Felt quite sick while tripping on mushrooms and hungover the next day... What went wrong? [Re: openmind]
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Thank you, I'm still quite new to it all. I've only taken mushrooms about 4 times before and never as much as that last time.

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Re: Felt quite sick while tripping on mushrooms and hungover the next day... What went wrong? [Re: opsh]
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Yeah I'm leaning on the dehydration hypothosis as well.


Most people are dehydrated on average.
A general rule of thumb: if you only drink when you are thirsty then you are already not drinking enough water.
Being well hydrated solves allot of slothfulness and brain fog in everyday life. Not mention, other illnesses down the line, particularly your kindies are hurt the most from being under hydrated and they do not regenerate like the liver does.
The body needs plenty of water to expel waste and run well.

I try to drink water more but I am guilty of not not doing it but you really notice the difference when you do.
I drink water a lot the day before and hours before taking mushrooms and one big glass mid trip.
Otherwise my body expels so much fluid from my nose and lower unit I get a headache from dehydration by hour 5.


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Re: Felt quite sick while tripping on mushrooms and hungover the next day... What went wrong? [Re: openmind]
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openmind said:
opsh said:
But we had such a stomach and bowels pain during the trip that it made it very uncomfortable. Kinda like when you have a giant fart stuck in you but it won't come out. It was rather unpleasant.




Gas in the bowels is kinda normal from mushrooms, this is not uncommon at all IME. I almost always get "gassy" from mushrooms. If your bowels are kinda "plugged up" then it is possible to get trapped gas which can be uncomfortable, it sounds like this is what might have happened to you guys.

I ate some mushrooms a few nights ago and I was very gassy the entire time, very very gassy lol....but I didn't have any trapped gas getting plugged up in my bowels/intestines, I could feel the gas pass through my bowels and it came out easily lol.







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We were high from 4pm to about 9pm. We went to sleep at 10:30pm and slept so poorly. It felt like we had a flu: shivering cold then super hot and sweating, a headache from temple to temple like the "bar" headache you can have after alcohol, constantly waking up and going back to sleep... Nice dreams but unpleasant night overall, and a feeling similar to being hungover the next morning.




If I ate mushrooms at 4pm, there's no way I'd be able to get to sleep easily at 10:30pm.

I'm not surprised you guys slept poorly considering how soon you guys tried going to sleep after dosing. Personally, if I dosed at 4pm, the very soonest I could lay down to try to get to sleep would be around midnight/1am, if not later....Mushrooms keep me stimulated and "buzzing" for many hours after the main portion of the trip has settled, I don't ever plan on getting to sleep anytime soon after dosing. I'm usually up for 10+ hours after dosing.

When I ate mushrooms the other night I ate them in the middle of the night around 2am and I was awake until about 1pm the next day, then I slept for only two hours that afternoon and was awake until 10pm that night before getting a proper night of sleep.

Body temperature swings are also not uncommon from mushrooms and psychedelics in general....Though I rarely experience this during the later portion of the trip and pretty much never once the trip has settled down. But during the come up and through the main portion of the trip I sometimes experience feeling very cold, and then hot, and cycling between them and having difficulty regulating a constant comfortable body temperature...But this really only happens during the come up/first part of the trip for me.







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We're rather confused, because we thought that mushrooms don't poison you the way alcohol does, and thus you don't get a hangover.





They don't....Mushrooms are not "poison". I have ate mushrooms 150+ times over the past 10+ years and have never experienced any sort of hangover from them. I usually feel better than I ever do during the later portion of a mushroom trip, the afterglow of a mushroom trip is one of the best feelings ever. When I wake up the next day I might be initially a little "foggy" or hazey, but once I'm awake and moving around I feel incredible. One of the many reasons I take mushrooms is because of how nice they make me feel the days/weeks after a trip.

If you guys experienced a headache then it's possible you were dehydrated. I don't know about you but mushrooms make me go pee A LOT, particularly during the first 2 hours or so after dosing, mushrooms pull out a lot of hydration from my body and there has been a few times where I have experienced a headache because of this after the trip/the next day....So if you aren't very well hydrated, or if you didn't replenish your hydration after the trip, this could lead to a headache as you describe.





It is possible that your diets, and how hydrated you guys are, might be playing a roll in experiencing the trapped gas/bowel issues and feeling a headache & hung over after the trip.

It is also possible that your mushrooms were contaminated somehow...but most of what you described isn't too out of the ordinary :shrug: .

Only bits of advice I have for you next trip....Stay hydrated, and don't plan on going to sleep so soon after the trip is over. I like to eat a good clean meal before I trip, but I don't eat on a full stomach, I like to wait at least 2 to 3 hours after eating before I dose.



Hope things are a bit more comfortable for ya'll next time around....How many times have you taken mushrooms/psychedelics?






-OM

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Dude about the "mushrooms make you pee a lot" thing. I didn't know if I was in my head and when I was tripping I wasn't really thinking about it.. but holy fuck they make me piss SO much. I drink a lot of water during the day. But when I take mushrooms I stay hydrated just as I would if I weren't tripping.. sips every now and then.

But man, when I'm tripping I get this weird sensation in my bladder like every 20 mins and I gotta PISS. And it's not a little piss.. it's a good piss every 20 minutes lmao. It subsides.. but yeah man that hour or two I'm pissing a LOT. And I didn't know if it was abnormal or not because my friends/gf at the time wouldn't have went.. and I would go like 3 or 4 times before they would lol.

And its ONLY when I take mushrooms. I do not have this problem other than when I eat mushrooms. I'm sure it takes all of that water I drank all day and sucks it out of me lol.

I sure do stay hydrated on mushrooms as I think ANYONE should. Also snacking on healthy sugar foods (fruits and what not) is also a great idea if it sounds appealing during the trip.. helps keep that trip clean and strong with feeding your brain antioxidant energy!

Very easy to become dehydrated on mush(not being thirsty, forgetting to drink it), just doing some of those things really helps prevent feeling like shit and that weird "hangover" feeling. Which I'm sure you know, is the whole reason you feel like shit in the morning after a night of drinkng(dehydration), as well as poor sleeping patterns. Though, you did get way too early to try and sleep after that.

I've found out I sleep like shit after a night of tripping.. because usually when I come down enough that I can "try" and relax.. because I'm usually exhausted. Very shitty sleep.. for sure. It's almost best to take them earlier in the afternoon.. that way by the time 1 comes.. you'll get some of the best sleep you have ever had and wake up with extreme clarity & awesome afterglow.

They're easy to take. But to get full good experience.. OVERALL... it taking a little planning and consideration for your body & mind. Even when tripping BALLZ.

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Re: Felt quite sick while tripping on mushrooms and hungover the next day... What went wrong? [Re: Vibe_Enthusiast]
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Yeah I pee like a horse when tripping. The worse part is when ya think your done but it keeps dribbling out. Mabye I'm just getting too old but gotta give it a few more shakes after a tripee otherwise I get a small run down the leg after putting it away.  :freewilly:


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Re: Felt quite sick while tripping on mushrooms and hungover the next day... What went wrong? [Re: Vibe_Enthusiast]
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Vibe_Enthusiast said:
Dude about the "mushrooms make you pee a lot" thing. I didn't know if I was in my head and when I was tripping I wasn't really thinking about it.. but holy fuck they make me piss SO much. I drink a lot of water during the day. But when I take mushrooms I stay hydrated just as I would if I weren't tripping.. sips every now and then.

But man, when I'm tripping I get this weird sensation in my bladder like every 20 mins and I gotta PISS. And it's not a little piss.. it's a good piss every 20 minutes lmao. It subsides.. but yeah man that hour or two I'm pissing a LOT. And I didn't know if it was abnormal or not because my friends/gf at the time wouldn't have went.. and I would go like 3 or 4 times before they would lol.

And its ONLY when I take mushrooms. I do not have this problem other than when I eat mushrooms. I'm sure it takes all of that water I drank all day and sucks it out of me lol.





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I hear ya lol, it goes the same way for me whenever I eat mushrooms.

Totally normal though.



I drink basically nothing but water, besides the occasional kombucha or juice, so I feel I'm pretty well hydrated.

Whenever I eat mushrooms I almost instantly start having to go pee lol, and I basically have to go piss every 10 to 20 minutes for the next 2 hours or so...And each time I go pee it is a lot of hydration coming out....As soon as I go pee, literally within just a few minutes after I  feel like I have to go pee again lol.

When I ate some mushrooms last week...I went pee 4 times in the span of about 80 minutes after I dosed. That alone was practically 1/3 of a gallon of urine/hydration, if not more lol....A lot of water gets pulled out of my body from mushrooms.

After working with mushrooms over the years I know this is normal for me, everytime I eat them I have to go piss very frequently and dump out a lot of hydration during that come up/first 2 hours or so.



I feel dehydration is the common cause of folks feeling a headache and/or hungover after a trip or the day after (and a big part of feeling hungover from alcohol is because of dehydration)...Over the years I've heard a handful of folks claim they get headaches from mushrooms, and a few that say it makes them feel hungover sometimes....I feel it's because people aren't hydrated all that well and/or don't replenish their hydration.

One of the first things I "got"/was shown during my first trips with mushrooms was to take care of the body I'm in....I was "shown" that I need to drink more water, eat better food, consume less sugar and consume more nutrition....more real food and less garbage.



LSD actually kinda makes me go pee a lot during the first few hours after dosing as well....Mescaline too....but mushrooms do this more so and dump the most hydration out of my body.









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