Doctor Mario said:

.... In an instant, he forgot who he was, where he was at, the names of his friends and how to talk. The only word he could say was "home" and he just kept repeating it over and over. Guess that went on for quite a while before he started to come back out of it.

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SonicTitan said:

Ive had body tremors on moderate/ high doses as well as temporary amnesia from high doses.

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That's basically what was going on.

It happens, not unheard of.


Though it is a bit strange it happened to the dude after taking only one single tab. It usually takes a solid dose for one's identity/memory to be melted away like that. But there's a chance that the sheet was a bit unevenly laid and the tab he took was extra-potent lol, and/or the dude could be relatively sensitive to LSD/psychedelics (I can see a "mere" 100mcg to 150mcg causing something like this to happen in some individuals).




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SonicTitan said:

Also how much was he dosing? Ive had body tremors on moderate/ high doses as well as temporary amnesia from high doses.

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Even on the cleanest LSD, my old friend would feel slightly weak and tremor-ish on the come up, but by the peak, she was always fine.


I had a friend who ate the orange gel tabs, said at first they were fine, then he got a batch that made him have a really bad experience.  Shaking, sweating, feeling ill and faint throughout the experience.

So who knows - I've eaten really impure LSD before, like, 40% pure.  The come up was horrible, and the first few hours was rough, like dry heaving, couldn't keep water down, really horrid stomach cramps.  But after about 2 hours, I was aight.  I felt weak, and didn't really walk around much, but I was SUPER lit.  I accidentally took like 500ug instead of 200ug.  But I don't want to start this argument.

Regardless, I have seen quite experienced people "short circuit" on what I would call poor quality LSD.  People who back in the 80s would eat ten strips without a problem, ate some stuff in 2015 that tested right on a ehlrich test - that short circuited them.  They ended up getting arrested after the show - not for like violence, or getting naked, but he just was waiting on the sidewalk to come down enough to get home and the cops picked him up.

ScientificAnalysis said:

. In an instant, he forgot who he was, where he was at, the names of his friends and how to talk.


thats why we dont take lsd kids.

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Sub-Easy said:

Yeah, you should test it now a days.

They busted all the bigger lsd labs not too long ago, so a lot of bad suff is out there. It's not lsd.

People have died and the loved ones that gave it to them went to prison.

Lsd won't hurt you if you are not just doing it stupidly.

Damned government messing up a safe thing and killing people.

That sounds about right from them.

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ScientificAnalysis said:

. In an instant, he forgot who he was, where he was at, the names of his friends and how to talk.


thats why we dont take lsd kids.

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Doctor Mario said:

... He's been having trouble remembering things, retaining new information ...

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Sub-Easy said:

Typewritermonkey, I'm going off of three news articles about fake lsd that's killed people and another on google that says the last lab was busted in 2000 something.

The several documentaries I've seen, have all the old guys retired and saying that you can't get the ingredients anymore.

And I have yet to see anything about a modern lab, even though there is plenty of stuff about people manufacturing other drugs.

I don't know we're your finding this information, but I wish you would tell me. Because as far as google is concerned. It's all gone.

And I've seen everything available on google and youtube.

Or if I haven't, I don't know how I could have missed it.

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I don't know if you realize, but it's 2021, the year 2000 was 21 years ago.

How do you consider 21 years ago to be, "Not too long ago"

Just because some "old guys" on some random documentary said you can get the "ingredients" anymore doesn't mean shit lol.


You are not going to get legit information on the current state of the LSD market by looking at youtube and google . "Google said all the LSD is gone" . Google is not the place to find LSD or any information about the LSD market .


TWM is absolutely correct though, and that's basically the same thing I was going to say before I saw his reply to your post. There is an enormous amount of high quality legit LSD out in the world right now, super cheap too. And any "RC" that someone might come across being passed off as "LSD" is likely going to be a lysergamide that is very similar to almost identical to LSD, even that is a bit unlikely though considering that LSD is often cheaper than RC-lysergamides .

I don't think anyone is produce nbome compounds right now though. It's been a very long time since I've heard anything about them being in circulation or being sold by RC vendors.

Currently there is more legit LSD in circulation around the world than there has ever been before, and there is very little to virtually no RCs in circulation being passed off as LSD like the nbome chems that were going around back around 2006-ish to 2012-ish. It has been almost a decade since I've heard anything about 25i/nbome.

If one looks at all the drug testing sites, basically every single tab of "acid" tests positive for LSD. I haven't seen a single tab test as something other than LSD for many years now.

Also the price...LSD is dirt cheap these days, far cheaper than it has ever been before (even cheaper than it was during the 60s & 70s. Considering the low price and how widespread it is, I'd say it's easy to assume there is a huge amount of quality/legit LSD going around right now and it has been for 6+ years now.


Your entire line of thought about LSD was somewhat true like 15 to 20 years ago....Times have changed. Over the past 5 to 10 years or so there's been a huge flood of legit LSD!




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Sub-Easy said:

Dude, I'm almost 40, so I'm out of the loop. I get around, but other than growing them myself, I've only ever seen mushrooms one time. Had good acid once when I was 12 and once when I was 36, and had good coke once. Good to know that ergot is making its way out of the fields and into the lab again. Don't bother googling were LSD is coming from. According to them it doesn't exist anymore. You sure you guys are doing real LSD. I've done plenty over the years that didn't do shit unless you took a handful. Most of the time it didn't do anything at all. I buy it every time I find it in this big old city.

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Sub-Easy said:

You say 20 years ago was a long time. Do you remember when you were a little kid and you went to the skating rink or a boring grown up meeting, and an hour or two seemed to last forever? Well when you turn 30 you will go to bed one night, and wake up 40. A week seems like two hours, and 2000 was a month ago. Talk about altered states of reality. It'll blow your mind.

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I totally hear what you're saying .

I'm 34 myself and yea, around the year 2000 doesn't seem that long ago at all. Time already flies by for me.

But in regards to drug markets...I do not consider 21 years to be "not too long ago", things can change drastically and rapidly within drug markets. Just because there was a big LSD bust 21 years ago doesn't mean there isn't LSD around today.

In the early 2000s there was a major LSD bust (William Leonard Pickard, in the silo). That made a huge impact on the supply of LSD. Then roughly around 2005 to 2010 there seemed to be some L in circulation but most of it was dosed weak and priced super high. And around that same time period nbome chems hit the market, which had a super steep dosage response curve and were potentially lethal for some folks when dosed too high, nbomes are the drugs that were passed off as LSD and killed some folks. Nbomes were going around mostly between 2009-ish to 2013-ish if I recall correctly.

Since about 2013-ish is when I've started to notice LSD becoming way easier to get a hold of and prices dropping a bit...since about 2015 it seems like there's been a huge flood of well dosed tabs of real deal LSD and the prices are dirt cheap (over the past few years I've got 10-strips for $30, and sheets for $170, quality/potent doses too). And in recent years, over the past 5 years or so, there has a been a lot of gel-tabs going around. I've seen more gel tabs in recent years than blotter or liquid.



Check out this drug testing site, I'll post the link below (they test all sorts of drugs that people send in for analysis then post the results online)....Every single tab of "acid" listed tests positive for LSD. Other than one tab testing as 1p-LSD (a pro-drug, it metabolizes into LSD once in the body), and one sample of a powder testing for various nbome chems (surprisingly), everything listed is actually LSD. If one looked at this testing site 10 years ago, there were far less samples of "acid" being tested and almost everything that was "acid" tested positive for nbome chems. Now, it's basically all LSD.

https://www.drugsdata.org/results.php?search_field=substance&s=LSD



These are some gels I had a while back, there's been a lot of these "gel tabs" going around in recent years in various colors and a few different shapes/forms (pyramid, rounded, squares, flat, etc). Both of these have gold flakes in them, that's what those specs are....Super good doses tho! Over the past 6 years that I've been eating them I haven't had a single one that felt weak or disappointing lol, they're all great doses.









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Sub-Easy said:

Typewritermonkey, I'm going off of three news articles about fake lsd that's killed people and another on google that says the last lab was busted in 2000 something.

The several documentaries I've seen, have all the old guys retired and saying that you can't get the ingredients anymore.

And I have yet to see anything about a modern lab, even though there is plenty of stuff about people manufacturing other drugs.

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JonBa said:

If someone ended up surrounded by concerned family members screaming "what is your name?" during ego death I could see that causing psychological problems for a while after.

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Enkidu said:

Something sounds off.

Maybe he should quit taking lsd.

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Nothing about it sounds "off" or out of the ordinary to me .

Forgetting who one is, forgetting one's name, forgetting where one is, forgetting about one's life, forgetting that one was ever a human in the first place, basically having everything wiped away is something that psychedelics are absolutely capable off.

Though such usually doesn't occur from taking a single tab, it usually takes a somewhat larger dose. The tab they took could have been particularly potent or had a "hot spot" of crystal, and/or they could be particularly sensitive to LSD.

But having one's identity and everything wiped away, being reduced down to a "blank slate" of nothing but awareness, is totally normal with moderately high to high doses of psychedelics.


It happens. Some folks actually aim for those types of experiences. It's pretty common with high doses. Nothing wrong or bad about it all.

You say mushrooms might be better for him...but I find mushrooms catalyze this even more so than LSD does lol. IME, for myself, one's identity and one's "self" remains intact more on LSD than it does on mushrooms. Mushrooms can totally annihilate one's identity/self (tho I rarely dose that high).




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Enkidu said:

Well it sounds off and out of the ordinary to me which is why i commented and stated my opinion.

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I hear you.

And from my point of view...From reading about and researching psychedelics for well over 10 years now, from reading about hundreds if not thousands of people's experiences/trips reports over the years, as well as based from my own experiences with psychedelics...

....I'd say that having one's identity and "self" wiped away is not unheard of at all. "Losing the plot", forgetting and disconnecting from the "Who, What, Where, When, Why" of what is going on, that is actually a pretty classic and well known aspect of high dose psychedelic experiences. Being reduced down to nothing but a point of awareness with no name or identity can totally happen from high doses of psychedelics . Some people dose high enough just to have that specific type of experience.


I will say, what does sound a bit off and out of the ordinary is that this happened after they took only one single tab! Usually it takes larger doses to catalyze this. No way to put a "#" on it, but I'd say it'd likely take 400mcg to 500mcg+ for this to occur for most folks (having one's identity/self wiped away, "forgetting the plot" entirely). With that said though, I can totally see a dose as small as a "mere" 150mcg causing this to happen in certain individuals.

For myself, when I get to around the 300mcg mark I can easily start dissociating from my body and the external world, basically slipping into an introspective trance where I'm not really responsive to anything "outside" of myself (though my identity/self is still intact around that level). I've never ventured much beyond the 300mcg range but I can totally see just a slightly higher dose being enough for me to be totally "gone" for several hours.

I've briefly "lost the plot" before (unresponsive to my name, unresponsive to instructions, no longer recognizing my surroundings, essentially forgetting all of the "Who, what, when, where, why" of what is going on) from just 150mcg to 200mg. It was only my 2nd or 3rd time tripping on LSD and one of my first dozen trips with psychedelics in general. Granted I did smoke some cannabis shortly before it occurred which no doubt played a big role in catalyzing it, but for about 20 to 30 minutes I was pretty well disconnected from anything outside of "myself".


The 3rd or 4th time I took mushrooms....I took 5 dry grams. Around 45 to 60 minutes after dosing I was laid out entirely, my body remained laying on a bed for the next 4 to 5 hours. I was reduced down to nothing but a point of awareness. I no longer was aware of "I", I no longer had a body, no longer had a name, no longer had any memory of my life or ever existing before or ever being a human, everything about "ME" was wiped away entirely. "I" was reduced down to nothing but a point of awareness. I wasn't unconscious or asleep, I was still totally "aware", but there was no self and no identity involved/attached to the awareness. Every thing was wiped away, there was nothing but a void with intense vibrations running through it/my awareness.

...as I started to come back down 4 to 5 hours later, it was almost like being reborn in a way. Slowly remembering that "this" point of awareness has a body, remembering that the awareness/body that I'm connected to had a name, then aspects/memories of my life slowly started trickling back, remembering family & friends. It was such a trip to be completely wiped away/reduced down to nothing but pure awareness, essentially experiencing the death of one's "self", then slowly coming "back together" and remembering that I had a body, a name, family & friends, an entire life of memories.


"Forgetting the plot" and having one's identity/self wiped away are pretty common aspects/themes of the "death & rebirth" type experiences that people have on psychedelics. Pretty common with high doses.

That type of experience has been pretty well documented over the decades...but yea, I will say that it is pretty out of the ordinary for such to happen after taking just one single tab. That does seem strange, no doubt.





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