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Bad Trip (What went wrong?)
    #27283456 - 04/27/21 05:54 AM (2 years, 8 months ago)

Talked to one of my life long friends yesterday and he told me about a bad trip that he recently had. He and a couple of friends had been getting orange gel tabs recently and he said that the last couple of times that he had one, they made him shake really bad. They were joking about it and calling them the Parkinson's tabs. Well, the last time they got them he had one and basically went full retard. Said that he was having a good time and it was like someone turned off a light switch. In an instant, he forgot who he was, where he was at, the names of his friends and how to talk. The only word he could say was "home" and he just kept repeating it over and over. Guess that went on for quite a while before he started to come back out of it. He's been having trouble remembering things, retaining new information and I suddenly don't wanna try acid anymore.

Any ideas on why that happened to him and has anything like that happened to you or someone that you know?


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Re: Bad Trip (What went wrong?) [Re: Doctor Mario]
    #27283462 - 04/27/21 06:01 AM (2 years, 8 months ago)

It was just him not the other people who took them?
No tastes? Was it tested?


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Re: Bad Trip (What went wrong?) [Re: QM33]
    #27283488 - 04/27/21 06:19 AM (2 years, 8 months ago)

I don't know if anyone else has but I'm sure they didn't do any testing. They're not deep into the scene and probably don't know about reagent tests. It was probably more of a "Hey I know where to get acid. Wanna trip?" type of thing. I just reached out to him for more information. I'll get back to you when he replies.


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Re: Bad Trip (What went wrong?) [Re: Doctor Mario]
    #27283513 - 04/27/21 06:37 AM (2 years, 8 months ago)

He said it actually had a citrus taste and he was the only one that was having any adverse affects from it.


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Re: Bad Trip (What went wrong?) [Re: Doctor Mario]
    #27283521 - 04/27/21 06:51 AM (2 years, 8 months ago)

Wierd. I mean I've had some sweet gel tabs lately, that kind of three me off but were truly flavored.. but they test clean, burn purple.

I mean if you aren't testing it, or have at least tested shit from the source once or twice it's really a gamble.

How many times has he done L? How many did he take?

Would you say this guy is comparable to the others in terms of maturity and ability to handle psychadelics?


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Re: Bad Trip (What went wrong?) [Re: QM33] * 2
    #27283774 - 04/27/21 11:03 AM (2 years, 8 months ago)

Also how much was he dosing? Ive had body tremors on moderate/ high doses as well as temporary amnesia from high doses.


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Re: Bad Trip (What went wrong?) [Re: Doctor Mario]
    #27283870 - 04/27/21 12:32 PM (2 years, 8 months ago)

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.... In an instant, he forgot who he was, where he was at, the names of his friends and how to talk. The only word he could say was "home" and he just kept repeating it over and over. Guess that went on for quite a while before he started to come back out of it.





Psychedelics can absolutely do that. That doesn't sound like anything out of the ordinary or "bad" though it usually takes a relatively high dose for those aspects to come about. Perhaps the tab your friend took was dosed relatively high and/or your friend is sensitive to LSD/psychedelics.

Forgetting who you are, where one is at, forgetting one's name, forgetting everything about one's life or ever being human at all, having one's entire existence/identity wiped away...That can happen, nothing "wrong" about that at all, in fact some folks strive for that experience. Melting away one's identity and entire "existence" temporarily is something some folks aim for when taking psychedelics.

The 3rd time I took mushrooms about 13 years ago I took a somewhat high dose, around 5g, and I had an experience that was similar. I became reduced down to nothing but a point of awareness. I was no longer in touch with my body or my physical surroundings. I no longer had a name or identity and had no memory of ever having a name/identity, I had no memory of ever existing at all or ever being a human, everything was wiped away. (while this was happening my body was laying down, I basically looked like I was asleep)

And talking and communicating definitely becomes difficult when one is high on psychedelics. For myself, once I get beyond 200mcg to 250mcg it becomes pretty difficult to talk in a normal manner. Beyond 250mcg and I'm not going to be saying or doing much of anything besides laying down.


This usually doesn't happen with casual doses, it usually takes a solid dose to happen, but it is definitely something that psychedelics can do and isn't unheard of. And this is not something that LSD specifically causes, any classic psychedelic can do so (mushrooms, lsd, mescaline, DMT).

As far as the shaking...Having some shakes/tremors, especially during the come up, isn't uncommon either. I usually get some shivers/tremors when coming up.



Sounds like your friends are kinda young and/or new to psychedelics and not fully aware of what psychedelics are capable of catalyzing. Though one single tab usually doesn't bring about such intense effects, it usually takes a larger dose for such to happen, what happened to your friend doesn't sound out of the ordinary to me. LSD can definitely do that if one takes enough, as well as any other psychedelic.




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Re: Bad Trip (What went wrong?) [Re: openmind]
    #27283878 - 04/27/21 12:39 PM (2 years, 8 months ago)

I agree with that also


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Re: Bad Trip (What went wrong?) [Re: SonicTitan]
    #27283879 - 04/27/21 12:39 PM (2 years, 8 months ago)

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Ive had body tremors on moderate/ high doses as well as temporary amnesia from high doses.





:werd:

That's basically what was going on.

It happens, not unheard of.


Though it is a bit strange it happened to the dude after taking only one single tab. It usually takes a solid dose for one's identity/memory to be melted away like that. But there's a chance that the sheet was a bit unevenly laid and the tab he took was extra-potent lol, and/or the dude could be relatively sensitive to LSD/psychedelics (I can see a "mere" 100mcg to 150mcg causing something like this to happen in some individuals).




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Re: Bad Trip (What went wrong?) [Re: openmind]
    #27285492 - 04/28/21 05:57 PM (2 years, 8 months ago)

Like others have said, sounds like a normal experience. Don't underestimate the potency of LSD or psychedelics in general.


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Re: Bad Trip (What went wrong?) [Re: Eclipse3130]
    #27285772 - 04/28/21 09:54 PM (2 years, 8 months ago)

Thanks for the replies. I'll share the link to this thread so that he can read through it.


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Re: Bad Trip (What went wrong?) [Re: Doctor Mario]
    #27285890 - 04/29/21 12:05 AM (2 years, 8 months ago)

sounds like ego death. That's not a bad trip, read my previous post in my post history, I don't feel like typing it here again.


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Re: Bad Trip (What went wrong?) [Re: SonicTitan]
    #27289170 - 05/01/21 12:50 PM (2 years, 8 months ago)

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Also how much was he dosing? Ive had body tremors on moderate/ high doses as well as temporary amnesia from high doses.





Even on the cleanest LSD, my old friend would feel slightly weak and tremor-ish on the come up, but by the peak, she was always fine.


I had a friend who ate the orange gel tabs, said at first they were fine, then he got a batch that made him have a really bad experience.  Shaking, sweating, feeling ill and faint throughout the experience.

So who knows - I've eaten really impure LSD before, like, 40% pure.  The come up was horrible, and the first few hours was rough, like dry heaving, couldn't keep water down, really horrid stomach cramps.  But after about 2 hours, I was aight.  I felt weak, and didn't really walk around much, but I was SUPER lit.  I accidentally took like 500ug instead of 200ug.  But I don't want to start this argument.

Regardless, I have seen quite experienced people "short circuit" on what I would call poor quality LSD.  People who back in the 80s would eat ten strips without a problem, ate some stuff in 2015 that tested right on a ehlrich test - that short circuited them.  They ended up getting arrested after the show :frown: - not for like violence, or getting naked, but he just was waiting on the sidewalk to come down enough to get home and the cops picked him up.


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Re: Bad Trip (What went wrong?) [Re: Typerwritermonky]
    #27291456 - 05/03/21 05:14 AM (2 years, 8 months ago)

. In an instant, he forgot who he was, where he was at, the names of his friends and how to talk.


thats why we dont take lsd kids.


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Re: Bad Trip (What went wrong?) [Re: ScientificAnalysis] * 2
    #27291461 - 05/03/21 05:27 AM (2 years, 8 months ago)

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. In an instant, he forgot who he was, where he was at, the names of his friends and how to talk.


thats why we dont take lsd kids.




That's way more common with mushrooms, though. Not saying that LSD can't do that, but from my experience ego-loss is more likely to happen with shrooms than with lsd. Especially from one hit only.

Citrus flavour is pretty uncommon, though. Never had gels myself, but I guess they should be almost tasteless. Gelatine is tasteless, lsd is tasteless. Any "acid" that has a strong flavour is sketchy, imo.
Better test it. Test kits are totally legal, and usually cheaper than a single hit of acid. So no excuse not to have a few on hand.

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Re: Bad Trip (What went wrong?) [Re: Pandemoon]
    #27292675 - 05/03/21 06:54 PM (2 years, 8 months ago)

Yeah, you should test it now a days.

They busted all the bigger lsd labs not too long ago, so a lot of bad suff is out there. It's not lsd.

People have died and the loved ones that gave it to them went to prison.

Lsd won't hurt you if you are not just doing it stupidly.

Damned government messing up a safe thing and killing people.

That sounds about right from them.


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    #27292995 - 05/03/21 08:56 PM (2 years, 8 months ago)

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Yeah, you should test it now a days.

They busted all the bigger lsd labs not too long ago, so a lot of bad suff is out there. It's not lsd.

People have died and the loved ones that gave it to them went to prison.

Lsd won't hurt you if you are not just doing it stupidly.

Damned government messing up a safe thing and killing people.

That sounds about right from them.




The hell are you talking about?  The last major LSD lab busts were like decades ago.. there's the least amount of RCs circulating in over a decade.  If anything, we are experiencing the greatest flood of LSD in the last 25 years.  I haven't heard of an nBOME being marked off as LSD in forever.  There's lots of different quality about, but it's all certainly LSD or potentially an RC lysergamide if you are unlucky.


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Re: Bad Trip (What went wrong?) [Re: ScientificAnalysis]
    #27293176 - 05/03/21 11:01 PM (2 years, 8 months ago)

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. In an instant, he forgot who he was, where he was at, the names of his friends and how to talk.


thats why we dont take lsd kids.




Ive seen it happen on more than LSD. My friend instabtly forgot who he was in mid sentence on MDMA lol. Its not unusual to hapoen on psychs of any type really.

I could see heavy doses of edible cannabis having those effects too. Ive had tremors from getting way too stoned.


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Re: Bad Trip (What went wrong?) [Re: Typerwritermonky]
    #27293374 - 05/04/21 05:35 AM (2 years, 8 months ago)

Typewritermonkey, I'm going off of three news articles about fake lsd that's killed people and another on google that says the last lab was busted in 2000 something.

The several documentaries I've seen, have all the old guys retired and saying that you can't get the ingredients anymore.

And I have yet to see anything about a modern lab, even though there is plenty of stuff about people manufacturing other drugs.

I don't know we're your finding this information, but I wish you would tell me. Because as far as google is concerned. It's all gone.

And I've seen everything available on google and youtube.

Or if I haven't, I don't know how I could have missed it.


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Re: Bad Trip (What went wrong?) [Re: Doctor Mario]
    #27293481 - 05/04/21 07:09 AM (2 years, 8 months ago)

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... He's been having trouble remembering things, retaining new information ...




having trouble remembering new information is not a side effect of LSD

If this is actually a persisting problem, then I think that either a brain injury has occurred, (ministroke?) or a neurological problem is happening which has  nothing to do with the lsd.

the rest, yeah, could happen. but ongoing low retention is moving into premature altzheimers...


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