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Re: Leftists [Re: qman]
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qman said:
Whether if it's Shapiro, Milo, Tucker, JLP or Coulter, they have all been labeled as Nazis by the left because they point out the hypocrisy of the PC movement when it comes to the white population. Are these individuals that call out the left an organization? No, but it's a movement of individuals.



I guess this is the closest we'll be getting to you admitting that you are unaware of any white nationalist groups that don't display racist tendencies?



qman said:
"predictable backlash"

Well, if a person or group of people are constantly being portrayed as something really horrible and it's not true, but it's still harming them the in the same fashion as if it was true, wouldn't they try to organize and attempt to fight against the propaganda?



You still aren't being very clear. What specific actions has the left pushed white people into? Would "white supremacist violence" be included under this umbrella of "predictable backlash".


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Re: Leftists [Re: shivas.wisdom]
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shivas.wisdom said:
qman said:
Whether if it's Shapiro, Milo, Tucker, JLP or Coulter, they have all been labeled as Nazis by the left because they point out the hypocrisy of the PC movement when it comes to the white population. Are these individuals that call out the left an organization? No, but it's a movement of individuals.



I guess this is the closest we'll be getting to you admitting that you are unaware of any white nationalist groups that don't display racist tendencies?



qman said:
"predictable backlash"

Well, if a person or group of people are constantly being portrayed as something really horrible and it's not true, but it's still harming them the in the same fashion as if it was true, wouldn't they try to organize and attempt to fight against the propaganda?



You still aren't being very clear. What specific actions has the left pushed white people into? Would "white supremacist violence" be included under this umbrella of "predictable backlash".



http://proudboysusa.com/

"The proud boys confuse the media because the group is anti-SJW without being alt-right"

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/proud-boys-founder-gavin-mcinnes-sues-southern-poverty-law-center-n966701

"specific actions"

You're joking right?  The entire PC movement is anti-white male, that affects all white people.

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Re: Leftists [Re: qman]
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You have made the PC movement to be Anti-white male. Nobody else, except those waging the war on PC (generally white men), believe this.

The joke is your misguided understanding of reality.


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Re: Leftists [Re: christopera]
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Re: Leftists [Re: qman]
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If we are taking the Proud Boys at their word, and accepting that they are not a racist organization, then we also have to accept them when they state they are not a white nationalist group.

If instead we are recognizing the implicit white nationalism that exists within the Proud Boys organization, as you appear to be doing by using them as an example of a white nationalist organization, then we also have to recognize the multitude of racist actions that the Proud Boys have been associated with despite their official claims to the contrary.




qman said:
"specific actions"

You're joking right?  The entire PC movement is anti-white male, that affects all white people.



By "specific actions", I refer to what specific actions have white people been pushed into doing as backlash against the anti-white actions of the left. You spoke of a "predictable backlash", can you expound on this by listing some specific actions that have occurred? Would "white supremacist violence" be included under this umbrella of "predictable backlash"?


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Re: Leftists [Re: shivas.wisdom]
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shivas.wisdom said:
If we are taking the Proud Boys at their word, and accepting that they are not a racist organization, then we also have to accept them when they state they are not a white nationalist group.

If instead we are recognizing the implicit white nationalism that exists within the Proud Boys organization, as you appear to be doing by using them as an example of a white nationalist organization, then we also have to recognize the multitude of racist actions that the Proud Boys have been associated with despite their official claims to the contrary.




qman said:
"specific actions"

You're joking right?  The entire PC movement is anti-white male, that affects all white people.



By "specific actions", I refer to what specific actions have white people been pushed into doing as backlash against the anti-white actions of the left. You spoke of a "predictable backlash", can you expound on this by listing some specific actions that have occurred? Would "white supremacist violence" be included under this umbrella of "predictable backlash"?



I was unaware of any racist actions by the Proud Boys.

I think the election of Trump, Brexit and the far-right parties growing across Western nations are proof of white voters being pushed into a certain direction in the political world.

Is violence predictable in the backlash?  I don't think so at this point. We don't see any organized violence, we just see individuals doing some solo actions.

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Re: Leftists [Re: christopera]
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Re: Leftists [Re: Shroomism]
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Canadians celebrating the freedom to recognize cultural and ecological opportunities afforded to us
and fuck what other nations think
oh wait, is pseudo-nationalistic environmental and sustainability affairs Left or Right?

Quote:
Chef Jean-Philippe Bourassa-Caron prepares poached eggs and a bordelaise sauce for a new feature at his Chez Boulay restaurant in Quebec City.

The sauce and eggs complement an unexpected part of this brunch dish, a meat terrine made with seal.

"I really like to work with seal because it's a nice taste," said Bourassa-Caron.

Chez Boulay is one of 20 restaurants in Quebec City, Lévis and Montreal taking part in the second annual Seal Fest, a 10-day culinary festival celebrating seal meat.

Bourassa-Caron says he knows some customers might have negative attitudes about the Canadian seal hunt, but he says those attitudes might need to be updated.

"You need to challenge your mind. You need to open your mind and give (it) a try."

Seal Fest is a promotion by a Quebec company, SeaDNA, which sells seal meat and seal oil capsules, and by the Seals and Sealing Network, a national non-profit organization that promotes sustainable use of seals.

Both the federal government and the provincial government of Quebec are supporting the event.

Andy Guffroy, head chef at L'Intimiste restaurant in Lévis, has prepared seal charcuterie for customers to try served with cheese, mussels and figs. He's keen to expose foodies to seal meat and help educate diners about the hunt.

"I think we are a little bit hypocritical about meat. We go to the grocery stores and we buy the final product. We don't see where it's comes from. We don't have any idea," he said.

"So when we did research about the seal (hunt) we discovered that it's very responsible in the way it's done. It's the way that needs to be done and there's nothing horrible about it."

Harp seal is harvested near the Magdalen Islands but most of the meat used during the festival is harvested in Newfoundland and Labrador. The Department of Fisheries and Oceans estimates the current harp seal population to be 7.4 million animals, almost six times what it was in the 1970s.

"There is some evidence to suggest that the Northwest Atlantic harp seal population may be reaching levels close to its natural carrying capacity, which is the maximum number of individuals of a particular species that can be sustained by that species' ecosystem," reads DFO's website.

Seal tataki is on the menu at Le Renard et La Chouette. Chef Sarah Arab serves pieces of seal loin, lightly seared and rolled in Nordic shrimp powder she made from shrimp shells and herbs. She says she's enjoyed learning more about the seal population and how they're harvested.

"It was pretty eye-opening for me. I was more curious about it, naturally," said Arab.

Her customers are curious too. Monica Oliver of Toronto sampled the seal tataki at Le Renard et La Chouette.

"I got to say, it is an amazing dish," she said, admitting to feeling some trepidation when she saw it on the menu.

"Growing up, it was definitely [the feeling that] seal hunting was very bad. I think Canadians definitely do need to hear both sides of the story and then make their decision."

Felix Bajeau of Quebec City ordered up a seal meal during the festival too. He said he particularly enjoys eating wild meat.

"My brother is a hunter, so he hunt deers. If you eat meat it's probably the same as eating beef or pork when you eat seal and maybe it's even better because the animal lived a happy life in the wild before being eaten," said Bajeau.

At Le Pied Bleu restaurant on Rue Saint Vallier in Quebec City, chef Fabrice Quenehen cooks up typical French cuisine inspired by his home in Lyon, France. For Seal Fest, Quenehen made a seal saucisson — or sausage — and served it in a lentil stew with a mushroom and red wine sauce.

"I really enjoyed to cook with this meat," said Quenehen.

He encourages more chefs to experiment with seal and especially chefs in Newfoundland and Labrador. He says he'd like to see a seal cookbook that helps Canadians understand how to use this particular protein.

"We can eat this meat because the population is healthy enough to sustain it," said Quenehen.

The quota for harp seals in Newfoundland and Labrador is 400,000 animals. In 2018, 60,000 animals were taken from that quota, far fewer than is allowed.

Seal Fest began March 21 and runs until Sunday.



https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/newfoundland-labrador/sealfest-quebec-culinary-festival-1.5076634


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Re: Leftists [Re: ballsalsa]
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ballsalsa said:
i think this was my first post in political discussion:
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/21899139#21899139

relevant:
https://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/149398



While do remember having played plenty of Clubby on the school computers during Computer Science class
that does not help me much in terms of knowing whether Canadians eating seal is Left or Right
your first post indicates that animal protection is a "Leftist" affair
but Canadians are effectively embracing minority traditions, since the rest of the world failing to do so has condemned them to poverty

(you may need a VPN to watch this outside of Canada, but it is a view into the history and modern impacts of opposition to the seal hunt on one of our most vulnerable communities)
if you can't watch the doc, the crux of the issue is that seal hunting is one of the only viable forms of employment in the snows up North
but the falling value of seal due to various bans across the globe makes it more and more difficult to support a life and family through traditional means
this is causing a sort of human crisis in Canada; we have communities that cannot afford to participate in broader Canadian society
with the underlying issues being, do we forcibly migrate traditional communities southward into what we consider "better" living conditions due to warmth, agriculture, and accessibility
or do we start drilling for oil and mining resources up North so citizens can have reliable modern income
and risk totally fucking up the seal's broader habitat in the process?

this also comes loaded with the factor that modern society (ie: rent costs, heating costs, water costs, non-seal-food costs with huge importation complications and price markups)
is making it so a -strictly- traditional lifestyle of living in igloos and surviving entirely on fish and seal is vanishing in favour of more modern and centralized community networks

the northernmost (ie: non-white, native) working populations are the ones hit hardest by what has happened with seal losing access to the global market

but, aside from respect for minority cultural traditions,
we are also recognizing that we can glean a sustainable food source from the seal hunt
which is an ever-increasing concern in the advancing world of climate change
which, also, carries with it potential issues of the seal population losing habitat even if we don't actively expand industrial development in the area

hold genuine concerns about all this, it is an area where uniquely Canadian identity is clashing with global values
but it is a byproduct of the awkward position modern Canada is in in terms of existing as a Western country but attempting to recognize and support traditions of the people who were here before colonization
it is all messy, and it makes me confused as to what 'side' is considered to be taken by my 'championing' this topic

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Re: Leftists [Re: Tantrika] * 1
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That post was satire.
In all seriousness, I don't see it as an inherently left/right issue, despite environmentalists and animal rights activists being generally characterized as "leftists".  Personally, I don't have a problem with hunts, culls, or whatever, of whatever, as long as it is done responsibly and without unnecessary cruelty.  Obviously, there isn't a responsible way to hunt endangered yellow legged frogs or what have you, but seals?  sea lions?  we've got more than a mule can shit and you Canadians have more.  I didn't watch your vid yet, but I will a bit later.

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Re: Leftists [Re: ballsalsa]
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ballsalsa said:
...I didn't watch your vid yet, but I will a bit later.



:hug:

You may have seen it before, have posted it a few times like an obnoxious bitch
:cookiemonster:
it is a particularly interesting documentary to me tho; Inuk written, directed, and narrated
hold particular enjoyment for insights delivered from minority point of view, rather than just views looking at the minority

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Re: Leftists [Re: Tantrika]
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https://www.newswars.com/illinois-house-passes-bill-requiring-women-african-americans-on-corporate-boards/

:facepalm:  Not much to say on this level of stupidity. What company is going to want to be in Illinois.

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Re: Leftists [Re: qman]
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qman said:
https://www.newswars.com/illinois-house-passes-bill-requiring-women-african-americans-on-corporate-boards/

:facepalm:  Not much to say on this level of stupidity. What company is going to want to be in Illinois.



It is stupid, but I don't see this becoming a law. Doubt McDonalds, Walgreens, Caterpillar and United Airlines are leaving town.


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I don't want no commies in my car. No Christians either.

Simulacrum
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Re: Leftists [Re: Brian Jones]
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Qman thinks they would rather spend billions to relocate their operations just so they don’t have to put a black lady on the board.

That pretty much sums up qman


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Re: Leftists [Re: koods]
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That law can't possibly be constitutional.


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Re: Leftists [Re: Enlil] * 1
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What is or isn’t constitutional all depends on the political leanings of whatever Court decides it. Illinois Supreme Court? Probably constitutional.


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Re: Leftists [Re: koods]
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koods said:
Qman thinks they would rather spend billions to relocate their operations just so they don’t have to put a black lady on the board.

That pretty much sums up qman



Or just pay the $300,000 fine.  I think we know what they're going to do if needed.

So you're fine with the proposal and would rather insult me, that sums you up quite well. :facepalm:

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