Bill_Oreilly said:

OK man. Get that purple haze for back pain and that kush for anxiety.

Use placebo to your advantage


Edit: I'm done here. Thanks to the ones who truly contributed

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Yukon Cornelius said:

We could get into the broader topic of how external stimuli like color/smell/texture can drastically affect the way that your brain perceives things that are virtually identical. Like the experiment involving blue and red strawberries having different tastes even though it's just been changed with tasteless food dye.

Bill's main point was just about classification having nothing to do with the real chemical profile of cannabis.

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nube424 said:

Bill_Oreilly said:

Remember the argument here...its that sativa and indica is bullshit.

Little changes can be present because of tepernes and cbd content and all that.

All im saying is there is no differentiating the highs by calling weed either sativa or indica

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The changes in terpenes and cbd/thc come from the lineage tho. U just don't wanna admit it. Or u never had the luxury to see analysis of what ur smoking

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Enkidu said:

Bill_Oreilly said:

OK man. Get that purple haze for back pain and that kush for anxiety.

Use placebo to your advantage


Edit: I'm done here. Thanks to the ones who truly contributed

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I've never had specific effects like that.

I have had noticable effects like this;

Energetic vs tired
Clear headed vs foggy headed
Body load vs no body load

I jave never understood the whole "this is for anxiety and asthma and blah blah blah" nor have I ever agreed with it.

I have noticed distinguishable differences in the three areas I mentioned.

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Enkidu said:

Probably just likely the cartridges you smoke are all very similar and you're basing that limited experience and using it to make much broader claims.

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Enkidu said:

Yukon Cornelius said:

We could get into the broader topic of how external stimuli like color/smell/texture can drastically affect the way that your brain perceives things that are virtually identical. Like the experiment involving blue and red strawberries having different tastes even though it's just been changed with tasteless food dye.

Bill's main point was just about classification having nothing to do with the real chemical profile of cannabis.

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Seemed like he was sayingthere are no discernable differences in the high between different strains, which has not been mt experience. Sometimes that is true, sometimes not.

Depends on the strain and what strain it's being compared to

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Yukon Cornelius said:

nube424 said:

Bill_Oreilly said:

Remember the argument here...its that sativa and indica is bullshit.

Little changes can be present because of tepernes and cbd content and all that.

All im saying is there is no differentiating the highs by calling weed either sativa or indica

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The changes in terpenes and cbd/thc come from the lineage tho. U just don't wanna admit it. Or u never had the luxury to see analysis of what ur smoking

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Mendelian genetics does not apply in this case. Only until very, very recently have breeders taken tissue samples and had them sequenced. The true lineage only goes that far, not to the first seeds brought from Afghanistan in the late 60's.

If we want to talk analysis we'd be talking about cannabinoid/terpene/ester/phytochemical content. Not names

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Bill_Oreilly said:

Enkidu said:

Probably just likely the cartridges you smoke are all very similar and you're basing that limited experience and using it to make much broader claims.

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I actually have a hybrid, sativa, and indica cartridges and they all give me the same damn high. The only thing is how much I smoke

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Yukon Cornelius said:

Enkidu said:

Yukon Cornelius said:

We could get into the broader topic of how external stimuli like color/smell/texture can drastically affect the way that your brain perceives things that are virtually identical. Like the experiment involving blue and red strawberries having different tastes even though it's just been changed with tasteless food dye.

Bill's main point was just about classification having nothing to do with the real chemical profile of cannabis.

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Seemed like he was sayingthere are no discernable differences in the high between different strains, which has not been mt experience. Sometimes that is true, sometimes not.

Depends on the strain and what strain it's being compared to

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The point is strain names are meaningless, differences in highs are a real phenomena.

However whether it is just placebo or a verifiable difference in cognitive effects according to receptor systems being synergistically modulated by specific combinations of psychoactive compounds is still being researched.

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Bill_Oreilly said:

Enkidu said:

Probably just likely the cartridges you smoke are all very similar and you're basing that limited experience and using it to make much broader claims.

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I actually have a hybrid, sativa, and indica cartridges and they all give me the same damn high. The only thing is how much I smoke

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Yukon Cornelius said:

Bill_Oreilly said:

Enkidu said:

Probably just likely the cartridges you smoke are all very similar and you're basing that limited experience and using it to make much broader claims.

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I actually have a hybrid, sativa, and indica cartridges and they all give me the same damn high. The only thing is how much I smoke

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Pointed that out earlier in the thread. Distillate cartridges should only be pure THC/CBD and terpenes anyway (maybe >3% Delta 8 or CBN).

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nube424 said:

Bill_Oreilly said:

Enkidu said:

Probably just likely the cartridges you smoke are all very similar and you're basing that limited experience and using it to make much broader claims.

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I actually have a hybrid, sativa, and indica cartridges and they all give me the same damn high. The only thing is how much I smoke

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Because ur smoking bho dude. Everything else is stripped out of it. Bho sucks

And dispensaries here don't put strain names on their stuff so that point strain names being a placebo is not relavent

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nube424 said:

Bill_Oreilly said:

Enkidu said:

Probably just likely the cartridges you smoke are all very similar and you're basing that limited experience and using it to make much broader claims.

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I actually have a hybrid, sativa, and indica cartridges and they all give me the same damn high. The only thing is how much I smoke

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Because ur smoking bho dude. Everything else is stripped out of it. Bho sucks

And dispensaries here don't put strain names on their stuff so that point strain names being a placebo is not relavent

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Bill_Oreilly said:

nube424 said:

Bill_Oreilly said:

Enkidu said:

Probably just likely the cartridges you smoke are all very similar and you're basing that limited experience and using it to make much broader claims.

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I actually have a hybrid, sativa, and indica cartridges and they all give me the same damn high. The only thing is how much I smoke

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Because ur smoking bho dude. Everything else is stripped out of it. Bho sucks

And dispensaries here don't put strain names on their stuff so that point strain names being a placebo is not relavent

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So you're saying that you can tell the changes in bud without knowing beforehand?

The point is the changes are very subtle and that's impossible.

If what you're saying is true, then i could give you a type of bud and you can tell me what strain it is.

That's impossible as well since it doesn't work that way, as proved in this thread.

So you don't really make sense at all

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