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Unfolding Nature Shop: Unfolding Nature: Being in the Implicate Order

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Re: Shapiro 2020 [Re: XUL] * 1
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XUL said:
I need more than a movie review.

When I think of racist, I think of using skin color to describe the inefficiency of an entire group of people.
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"Only the blacks could live like this,"
  - Donald Trump, driving through a bad neighborhood in Chicago.


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NotSheekle said
“if I believed she was 16 I would become unattracted to her”

Edited by koods (03/05/19 01:22 AM)

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Re: Shapiro 2020 [Re: koods]
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Comma?


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TRUMP 2020

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Re: Shapiro 2020 [Re: XUL]
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Does a misplaced comma ruin it for you


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NotSheekle said
“if I believed she was 16 I would become unattracted to her”

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Re: Shapiro 2020 [Re: koods]
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I mean the end comma.

There is more in the sentence. Where is the period.


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TRUMP 2020

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Re: Shapiro 2020 [Re: XUL] * 2
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As if anything following that would absolve that statement. Why are you so desperate to prove everyone isn’t racist?


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Re: Shapiro 2020 [Re: The Ecstatic]
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The Ecstatic said:
Why are you so desperate to prove everyone isn’t racist?



He hasn't come to terms yet with no longer being the good guy.

Sorry no Xul, you insist on defending racists against the backlash against their racism.

You are rooting for Team Rocket.




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Re: Shapiro 2020 [Re: Asante]
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Were they ever the good guys?


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Re: Shapiro 2020 [Re: Asante]
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Slight off-topic: like I've pointed out before on this forum, I certainly see racist traits in myself. And I'm the very first to openly support people with different skin color than myself.

We all know most right-wingers are aggressive on this. But how about the rest of the people on this forum? I dig you Asante, and I see myself in you. We love Africa and the African people. Do you have any input on this? Can you relate to having racist traits?

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Re: Shapiro 2020 [Re: Pinkerton]
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Pinkerton said:
Slight off-topic: like I've pointed out before on this forum, I certainly see racist traits in myself. And I'm the very first to openly support people with different skin color than myself.

We all know most right-wingers are aggressive on this. But how about the rest of the people on this forum? I dig you Asante, and I see myself in you. We love Africa and the African people. Do you have any input on this? Can you relate to having racist traits?



Define "racist traits"? 

If you want to consider racial tribalism as "racist traits", I think you're doing a major disservice to the conversation because every human is tribal in nature.

Tribalism is a survival mechanism in all humans, you're never going to intellectualize yourself out of it.

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Re: Shapiro 2020 [Re: The Ecstatic]
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The Ecstatic said:
Were they ever the good guys?



White people are rarely the good guys. They reap the benefits of oppression and slavery to this day. And they pay fuck all in reparations to Africa (and others).

Cut the crap right-wingers, white guilt is not for the faint of heart. Most of us whiteys should have it unless we actually help indigenous human beings.

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Re: Shapiro 2020 [Re: qman]
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qman said:
Pinkerton said:
Slight off-topic: like I've pointed out before on this forum, I certainly see racist traits in myself. And I'm the very first to openly support people with different skin color than myself.

We all know most right-wingers are aggressive on this. But how about the rest of the people on this forum? I dig you Asante, and I see myself in you. We love Africa and the African people. Do you have any input on this? Can you relate to having racist traits?



Define "racist traits"?



When you sit on the bus and everyone around you is white then a black human being joins the ride. It kind of feels weird, at least to me. I can also see a black human being and think to myself n*****.

Fuck imperialism.

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Re: Shapiro 2020 [Re: Pinkerton]
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Pinkerton said:
qman said:
Pinkerton said:
Slight off-topic: like I've pointed out before on this forum, I certainly see racist traits in myself. And I'm the very first to openly support people with different skin color than myself.

We all know most right-wingers are aggressive on this. But how about the rest of the people on this forum? I dig you Asante, and I see myself in you. We love Africa and the African people. Do you have any input on this? Can you relate to having racist traits?



Define "racist traits"?



When you sit on the bus and everyone around you is white then a black human being joins the ride. It kind of feels weird, at least to me. I can also see a black human being and think to myself n*****.

Fuck imperialism.



Yes, it's racial tribalism, but guess what?  Once you have even a 2 minute conversation with that black stranger that feeling goes away in very short order. :shrug:

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Re: Shapiro 2020 [Re: qman]
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True. :heart:

But then again, if I go to (many places - not all!) Africa they will embrace me for my color. It makes me very emotional.

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Re: Shapiro 2020 [Re: Pinkerton]
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qman said:
Yes, it's racial tribalism, but guess what?  Once you have even a 2 minute conversation with that black stranger that feeling goes away in very short order. :shrug:



Well to be honest, it doesn't always go away. It can pop up from time to time. It's disgusting.

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Re: Shapiro 2020 [Re: qman]
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Whenever I call black human beings I don't know for sister and brother. It's like they get emotional in good ways.

If I say that to a white person they don't give a fuck.

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Re: Shapiro 2020 [Re: qman] * 2
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qman said:
Tribalism is a survival mechanism in all humans, you're never going to intellectualize yourself out of it.




Newsflash: if you define your tribe as a race... You are being racist :awebig:


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Re: Shapiro 2020 [Re: Asante] * 2
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It’s only natural! That’s why racism against Irish and Italians and Slavs still exist in America.

Oh wait.

It’s not “natural.” It’s cultural.


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Re: Shapiro 2020 [Re: Asante]
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Asante said:
qman said:
Tribalism is a survival mechanism in all humans, you're never going to intellectualize yourself out of it.




Newsflash: if you define your tribe as a race... You are being racist :awebig:



There's many different forms of tribalism, race is only one form.

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Re: Shapiro 2020 [Re: Pinkerton]
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Pinkerton said:
The Ecstatic said:
Were they ever the good guys?



White people are rarely the good guys. They reap the benefits of oppression and slavery to this day. And they pay fuck all in reparations to Africa (and others).

Cut the crap right-wingers, white guilt is not for the faint of heart. Most of us whiteys should have it unless we actually help indigenous human beings.



:justno:
It isn't about racial "good guys" and "bad guys". That's racist thinking.  I don't feel guilt for slavery, as an example, because I didn't participate in the institution.  The color of my skin doesn't confer guilt upon me (ignoring the fact that I wouldn't even be considered white by various people at various times).  I do feel...regret, i guess?  Maybe that's the wrong word.  I feel that way when any group seriously fucks with another for their ethnicity.  I feel it when I think of black slavery in the americas and I feel the same when I think about Burmese buddhists holding pogroms against Rohingya.  Terribly racist behavior certainly isn't confined to white folk and i say that with total disregard to any BS about who holds the power or whatever.  If it's racist for me, it's racist for you, and him, and her, and everyone on down the line.

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