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All LSD is not exactly the same * 1
    #25831791 -

I have 2 different batches.

1. Well known..aztec patterns on the blotter. Very popular.

2. Comes in GTA front..ususlly has game of thrones printed on them. Huge supplier.


I tried number 1 and noticed it hit at normal speed and tailed off at about 8 hours. My buddy said the same thing without me mentioning anything.

I tried number 2 and noticed it oddly took a while to kick in, but lasted longer. My friend said the same exact thing without me mentioning how my trip went.

We also discussed the details of each batch and they differed between batches.

This can only confirm my strong suspicion that batches are most definitely different with different qualities depending on such batch.

I'm starting to think that NO batch is the same.


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Something there is mysteriously formed,
Existing before Heaven and Earth,
Silent, still, standing alone, unchanging,
All-pervading, unfailing,
I do not know its name; I call it tao.
If forced to give it a name, I call it
Great (ta). Being great, it flows out;
Flowing out means far-reaching;
Being far-reaching, it is said to return.

It's just a shot away..

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Re: All LSD is not exactly the same [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
    #25831804 -

It's possible.

I went 2 years working with the same batch, so many trips that were completely different in timeline and experience though off that same batch.

It's different though if you're confirming other people are feeling the same about it as you are. Any chance one is an RC?

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Re: All LSD is not exactly the same [Re: feevers]
    #25831811 -

Not at all. No chance whatsoever.


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Something there is mysteriously formed,
Existing before Heaven and Earth,
Silent, still, standing alone, unchanging,
All-pervading, unfailing,
I do not know its name; I call it tao.
If forced to give it a name, I call it
Great (ta). Being great, it flows out;
Flowing out means far-reaching;
Being far-reaching, it is said to return.

It's just a shot away..

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Re: All LSD is not exactly the same [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
    #25831817 -

Yeah, but the difference is minimal


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The eyes are useless when the mind is blind

:trippinballs: Candyflipping :omgawesome:

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Re: All LSD is not exactly the same [Re: grati]
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grati said:
Yeah, but the difference is minimal



Yeah it's not like the drug can change frkm batch to batch, I'm just saying different batches do indeed have different characteristics.

I have a batch now of WoW from the dark net and the visuals are better absolutely ridiculous. Your whole vision is filled with Aztec type patterns. You can't see anything else but these intricate visuals 

The other batches don't go that deep

And I do the same dose everytime. Always 200ug.


If I had to do a blind dose of 1 of the 3 batches I have, im positive I could tell which batch I got


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Something there is mysteriously formed,
Existing before Heaven and Earth,
Silent, still, standing alone, unchanging,
All-pervading, unfailing,
I do not know its name; I call it tao.
If forced to give it a name, I call it
Great (ta). Being great, it flows out;
Flowing out means far-reaching;
Being far-reaching, it is said to return.

It's just a shot away..

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Re: All LSD is not exactly the same [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
    #25831874 -

Idk about the high being that immensely different ....
Doesn’t really seem chemically possible unless ones an RC

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Re: All LSD is not exactly the same [Re: Tripsten]
    #25831890 -

The high is still clearly LSD but some batches last longer, some take longer to come on, some have stronger visuals, some have stronger mental aspects..etc.

I'm just saying the characteristics change between batches. Some batches give you more in one aspect and less in another...and so on

I am 100% certain of this now. Not just because this post, but because of my studies in the past. I've been working on this subject for awhile and that's my conclusion :shrug:

I don't go to festivals or anything like that. I take my lsd alone and study it's effects. I do this with every batch and have definitely 100% realized that each batch brings something different to the table, but it's still LSD so these changes are not so big that some noob at a festival would be able to tell.


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Something there is mysteriously formed,
Existing before Heaven and Earth,
Silent, still, standing alone, unchanging,
All-pervading, unfailing,
I do not know its name; I call it tao.
If forced to give it a name, I call it
Great (ta). Being great, it flows out;
Flowing out means far-reaching;
Being far-reaching, it is said to return.

It's just a shot away..

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Re: All LSD is not exactly the same [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
    #25831912 -

Ok I see what your saying now
The last post threw me a little bit I misunderstood
But ya I can get behind that

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Re: All LSD is not exactly the same [Re: Tripsten] * 1
    #25832414 -

also possible that when attracted to one blotter design over another that a person's mindset is configured consistently differently than when attracted to the design on the blotter not chosen.

mindset can affect your detection of effects beginning, and can establish the trip trajectory including the duration of effects being detected.

other than that, how well/evenly the paper is doped can create real dose dependent variance in the experiences.


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Re: All LSD is not exactly the same [Re: Bill_Oreilly] * 2
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Were both of those trips more or less about the same intensity?

Unless there was quite a difference in the dosage between those two blotters, I find it strange there was such a pronounced differnce between the come up time and the over all duration of the trip...In all the years I've been dabbling with LSD I haven't noticed a pronounced difference in the come up time or duration of the trip among the different blotter, gels, & liquid I've worked with.




The only thing that changes the onset time for me is the over all dosage.


Higher the dose, quicker the on set...

...Quicker the onset, the heavier/deeper and more intense of a trip it's going to be.


But all LSD I've ate over the years has been pretty consistent as far as the timeline goes (come up, peak, comedown, afterglow)...The only thing I notice that changes the come up time is how potent the doses are or how much I take. For me there is a direct correlation between how quickly the trip comes on, how potent the doses are/how much I take, and how intense of a trip it's going to be.

I always have a pretty good idea of how strong the doses are and how intense of a trip it's going to be within 15 to 20 minutes after dosing...Even when I take only one tab I tend to feel the first alert around 5 minutes after dosing....Like I've never had a trip come on relatively quickly and it turn out to be a relatively mild trip, and I've never had a trip come on slowly that was a rather deep trip.

...LSD is very consistent for me as far as the onset time and over all duration/timeline goes. The duration doesn't change much for me either, if I take 1/4 of a tab or 3 tabs, I still start coming down around the same time.....though higher doses will certainly have a lot more of a lasting "glow" and lingering residual effects for me, the main portion of the trip is always the same duration regardless of dose for me. Around 8 hours after dosing is typically when I notice I'm on my way down, give or take a bit....though with a high dose I will have some effects lingering around for up to 20 hours, but I don't consider to be "tripping" at that point.






-OM


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Edited by openmind (02/23/19 02:11 PM)

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Re: All LSD is not exactly the same [Re: openmind]
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I think there’s some truth to what they say about vibes, and people being able to pick up on other people’s vibefield. I don’t think it makes other people more special now, it’s all just the same basic warfare played out subtly through actions, “sub” or “unconscious” (or, “conscious”) desires and actions, or deliberate beliefs.
We are the alien communicating with ourself from the future, in the past. I think taking too much psychedelics or DMT then having people look at you, just makes it easier for them to steal your thoughts or intent, it isn’t hard. Showing how woke you are is beneficial for some, and not for others, also depending on the situation. Minds get blown by different things until tolerance sets in
Whenever I’d smoke DMT it’d still get creepy every time, so I tried to stop and switch to mushrooms then noticed it wasn’t as overwhelming as DMT, although it could last longer.

Anyway I have a theory that when you take LSD, it makes everything look more one, so that when you breathe air and exhale to share for other people to breathe, some information gets transmitted, sometimes consciously, and it’s inside their body, so some of gets transferred, and this happens all throughout the world and it’s wind. So there’s not much to it it turns out, it’s just people picking up on cues subconsciously, then saying it out loud probably (using some air/breath), to make it look like they’re woke or creative. Different forms of communicating have different uses. At some point I think the future’s going to be all VR and psychic communication between minds, which is just like normal human/mammal empathy in being aware of others needs’ (mother feeding you; etc), so that you won’t even really need to talk eventually. Supposedly for the benefit of all, in those coming times.


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Edited by Blabble40 (02/24/19 05:23 PM)

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Re: All LSD is not exactly the same *DELETED* [Re: Blabble40] * 1
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Edited by WhoManBeing (02/23/19 02:48 PM)

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Re: All LSD is not exactly the same [Re: WhoManBeing]
    #25832669 -

LSD is a sensitive crystal, especially in its purest form. Absorbing all frequencies and energies, reflecting into your experience. I would even argue down to the intention of the creator, is the biggest part of how the experience plays out. All the great LSD chemists believed in this, how important a pure product was, some even down to chanting over and blessing their batches.

"Owsley, widely believed to be the best LSD chemist ever, was an alchemist. The basic principal behind this is that the universe is a mind.  He believed that since LSD itself modulates the mind, it's highly sensitive to the environment in which it's made. He approached making LSD as an alchemical act, and valued purity of mind and soul as much as he valued the purity of chemistry."


Of course the flip side, all LSD is LSD and your different experience is dose, set and setting related. I don't buy into it as much :lol: based on personal experience, I have had hallucinations where I saw and felt the creators intentions radiating within my trip, and received the message that was intended to get across.


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"In The Material World One seeks retirement and grows Old
In The Magical World One seeks Enlightenment and grows Wiser
In The Miraculous World One seeks nothing and grows Lighter
As we all tread the Homeward Path we will explore many Realms
And one day... we will all Realize that all experiences are Simply
Different ways in which The
All-That Is
Perceives Itself"

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Re: All LSD is not exactly the same [Re: openmind]
    #25832867 -

openmind said:
Were both of those trips more or less about the same intensity?

Unless there was quite a difference in the dosage between those two blotters, I find it strange there was such a pronounced differnce between the come up time and the over all duration of the trip...In all the years I've been dabbling with LSD I haven't noticed a pronounced difference in the come up time or duration of the trip among the different blotter, gels, & liquid I've worked with.




The only thing that changes the onset time for me is the over all dosage.


Higher the dose, quicker the on set...

...Quicker the onset, the heavier/deeper and more intense of a trip it's going to be.


But all LSD I've ate over the years has been pretty consistent as far as the timeline goes (come up, peak, comedown, afterglow)...The only thing I notice that changes the come up time is how potent the doses are or how much I take. For me there is a direct correlation between how quickly the trip comes on, how potent the doses are/how much I take, and how intense of a trip it's going to be.

I always have a pretty good idea of how strong the doses are and how intense of a trip it's going to be within 15 to 20 minutes after dosing...Even when I take only one tab I tend to feel the first alert around 5 minutes after dosing....Like I've never had a trip come on relatively quickly and it turn out to be a relatively mild trip, and I've never had a trip come on slowly that was a rather deep trip.

...LSD is very consistent for me as far as the onset time and over all duration/timeline goes. The duration doesn't change much for me either, if I take 1/4 of a tab or 3 tabs, I still start coming down around the same time.....though higher doses will certainly have a lot more of a lasting "glow" and lingering residual effects for me, the main portion of the trip is always the same duration regardless of dose for me. Around 8 hours after dosing is typically when I notice I'm on my way down, give or take a bit....though with a high dose I will have some effects lingering around for up to 20 hours, but I don't consider to be "tripping" at that point.






-OM


.



All about the same intensity. That didn't change. Only what I previously posted. Always both dosed at 200ug. Blotters are exactly the same in dosage..obviously I have not tested myself but these are the darknets 2 best and popular vendors...perfect ratings. I'm sure a lot of you know exactly what who's putting out the 2 types of LSD I described. Legit as buying Tylenol from the store. The only thing is, is the Aztec pattern blotters are at 105ug and the GTA font with game of thrones on it is 100ug. If anything, the Aztec LSD should have been more powerful and should have kicked in faster, but the opposite happened. My friend said they were basically the same besides those little differences I mentioned before



I really think all batches have different characteristics. Little ones, but still noticeable

I've been at this with LSD for awhile now and I'm convinced that batches vary..slightly...but still vary


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Something there is mysteriously formed,
Existing before Heaven and Earth,
Silent, still, standing alone, unchanging,
All-pervading, unfailing,
I do not know its name; I call it tao.
If forced to give it a name, I call it
Great (ta). Being great, it flows out;
Flowing out means far-reaching;
Being far-reaching, it is said to return.

It's just a shot away..

Edited by Bill_Oreilly (02/23/19 05:08 PM)

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Re: All LSD is not exactly the same [Re: Bill_Oreilly] * 1
    #25832996 -

Different cook/batch, different vibes.
Bear used to keeps his hands over his lab ware to make it right.
Some play different music during the process etc.


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From tundra with love!


FREE HAMHEAD 2020!

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Re: All LSD is not exactly the same [Re: LeningradCowboy] * 3
    #25833007 -

I never believed in the whole energy and singing songs while cooking it and all that hippy stuff.

I believe in someone who knows what they are doing getting a very clean product. I'll take a great product with no singing over am above average product that was sung to, chanted at
.blessed...etc


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Something there is mysteriously formed,
Existing before Heaven and Earth,
Silent, still, standing alone, unchanging,
All-pervading, unfailing,
I do not know its name; I call it tao.
If forced to give it a name, I call it
Great (ta). Being great, it flows out;
Flowing out means far-reaching;
Being far-reaching, it is said to return.

It's just a shot away..

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Re: All LSD is not exactly the same [Re: Bill_Oreilly] * 1
    #25833044 -

Bear was known for his passion to make really pure product all so.


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From tundra with love!


FREE HAMHEAD 2020!

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Re: All LSD is not exactly the same [Re: Bill_Oreilly] * 1
    #25833050 -

I agree.

I have noticed difference between batches as well, not all 25's are made equal. Sure they are both LSD and the effects are very similar but some are more visual whilst others are more heady and physical, some last for longer and some are more of a head fuck. I've done blind tests to see if I can pick the acid out of my stash by effect (by getting someone else to dose me) and I was able to identify the tabs. Admittedly that's where variables like dose and purity start coming into play, but still, it was enough to confirm it for me. You should try the experiment for yourself Bill, confirm your suspicion.

I doubt very much it's got anything to do with vibes and intentions and is far more likely to to with chemistry. I don't believe in fairies and crystal healing, there's no reason to start thinking that chemicals can have magical properties just because they make me trip. Especially as there's zero evidence of such magic anywhere else in nature.


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We are the music makers, the dreamers of dreams.

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Re: All LSD is not exactly the same [Re: Northerner] * 1
    #25833137 -

I would do a blind test myself but I'm so sure it's a waste of time. What happened as I described in my OP is just one of many many proofs or suspicions I've had for years due to taking LSD the last 12 years


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Something there is mysteriously formed,
Existing before Heaven and Earth,
Silent, still, standing alone, unchanging,
All-pervading, unfailing,
I do not know its name; I call it tao.
If forced to give it a name, I call it
Great (ta). Being great, it flows out;
Flowing out means far-reaching;
Being far-reaching, it is said to return.

It's just a shot away..

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Re: All LSD is not exactly the same [Re: Bill_Oreilly] * 2
    #25833156 -

Buy a 10 strip of the same batch notice how trips vary despite same batch and dose. The best I've had was on sour patch kids but also set and setting.


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