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How much worse for you is LSD than Shrooms...
    #3376460 - 11/17/04 10:42 PM (12 years, 18 days ago)

I really want to do acid at least once, but how bad is it really for you. Ive heard of people taking it 7 times only and just turning retarded, is this true or just a rumor?


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Re: How much worse for you is LSD than Shrooms... [Re: sp001]
    #3376479 - 11/17/04 10:46 PM (12 years, 18 days ago)

It all depends on several factors.


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Re: How much worse for you is LSD than Shrooms... [Re: sp001]
    #3376480 - 11/17/04 10:46 PM (12 years, 18 days ago)

probably a rumor.....


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Re: How much worse for you is LSD than Shrooms... [Re: Infrared]
    #3376811 - 11/17/04 11:53 PM (12 years, 18 days ago)

If you are questioning it you are not ready for it mentally.  It would not be wise to have questions like that in your head when dropping some cid  :mushroom2:


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Re: How much worse for you is LSD than Shrooms... [Re: Infrared]
    #3376814 - 11/17/04 11:55 PM (12 years, 18 days ago)

well L is powerful enough to mess you up permanently if you have a really bad trip and take enough (a friend of mine had a bad trip on L and he's messed up permanently now, bad enough that his paretns weren't sure if they could let him go to college on his own); shrooms aren't powerful enough to do that (maybe if you take a shit load, im not sure, but not at normal amounts). L is also speculated to damage your genes, but i'm not sure about that part.


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Re: How much worse for you is LSD than Shrooms... [Re: JROS14]
    #3376908 - 11/18/04 12:18 AM (12 years, 18 days ago)

What are its long term effects? I want to try it but i don't want to get messed. Does it get cut with other stuff ever?


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Re: How much worse for you is LSD than Shrooms... [Re: NoodleSalad]
    #3376919 - 11/18/04 12:20 AM (12 years, 18 days ago)

Cut with stuff? Nah. Cid is valuable and rare, not to be wasted. if you get sold fake cid, tahts another story.

If you're going to try it (and can get it) you don't have to worry about any long term effects from once use. Especially if you're comfortable with shrooms. Most likely the worst to happen is a bad trip.

This doesn't mean to take it lightly, its a powerful drug. Take caution with your setting, don't do something stupid like drive, etc.
Not that I expected you to.


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Re: How much worse for you is LSD than Shrooms... [Re: Koala Koolio]
    #3376938 - 11/18/04 12:24 AM (12 years, 18 days ago)

How many would you have to do it to get long term effects? I hear some people say its really bad for you and othhers say there is nothing wrong with it.


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Re: How much worse for you is LSD than Shrooms... [Re: sp001]
    #3376958 - 11/18/04 12:29 AM (12 years, 18 days ago)

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Re: How much worse for you is LSD than Shrooms... [Re: NoodleSalad]
    #3376994 - 11/18/04 12:38 AM (12 years, 18 days ago)

Quote:

NoodleSalad said:
How many would you have to do it to get long term effects? I hear some people say its really bad for you and othhers say there is nothing wrong with it.




the drug itself is not inherently bad. there may be long term consequences that we don't know about yet, but as far as i know it all depends on the individual, their mind, and their trip environment. if you know what you're doing and know what to expect, you will be fine...i don't imagine you'll be dropping 10 hits on your first time..take one or two, and you will have a blast. make sure you trust who you're getting it from. bad acid isn't usually dangerous, it's just a rip off because nothing happens.


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Re: How much worse for you is LSD than Shrooms... [Re: Hendostan]
    #3377204 - 11/18/04 01:55 AM (12 years, 18 days ago)

I don't like going around saying this drug and this drug are completely safe. But, if you're completely okay with shrooms, you shouldn't worry about acid. If you're mentally unstable, its not a good idea. There are more bad stories for two reasons. First, it used to be a lot more common, a lot cheaper, and a lot more overused/abused than mushrooms, I believe. I know of a few people who did tons of it. And yeah, if you shoot yourself out of reality so much, maybe some of you still stay there.

The other thing is, there are more myths and lies about acid than any other drug I've heard of. Nothings completely safe, but chances are the majority of the stuff you heard is bullshit, simply because there are so many lies, and fake horror trip stories that always happened to a friends uncle.

Realistic long term physical damage? Don't worry. Psycological damage? If you're okay with shrooms, I don't see any reason why you shouldn't be with cid.


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Re: How much worse for you is LSD than Shrooms... [Re: Koala Koolio]
    #3377250 - 11/18/04 02:11 AM (12 years, 18 days ago)

I agree with you! A trip can be a very heavy experience and can cause mental problems, like war or being raped can cause mental problems(war and being raped are worse, of course). It's not a good idea if you are mentally unstable. If you know what you are doing, you feel good, feel stable in you head and if you've taken mushrooms before you should be fine!

Don't forget how many good things mushrooms and LSD can give you! There is a very small risk in taking drugs, but it's totally worth it for me! Like bungee jumping or parachuting... low risk, great reward!


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Re: How much worse for you is LSD than Shrooms... [Re: JROS14]
    #3377333 - 11/18/04 02:35 AM (12 years, 18 days ago)

shrooms most definitely can trigger long term mental illness as well but I do not believe its the chemical itself that causes the problem...I believe its the experience


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Re: How much worse for you is LSD than Shrooms... [Re: Iamthewalrus]
    #3377401 - 11/18/04 03:03 AM (12 years, 18 days ago)

In psychology terms it's the experience that causes the mental problems IMO.

But in neuroscience terms(I do believe in a material world) it actually is the chemical that causes the mental problems; an experience is a chemical reaction in your brain and a mental illness is also a chemical state/reaction in your brain. Psilocin effects your brain chemistry and that is what we call an experience. A mental illness can be the result of this experience/effect on your brain chemistry(that is caused by the psilocin or LSD). There is no real difference between an experience and a chemical state/reaction in your brain.

So in the macro world, where we feel we live, you can call it the experience, but that experience really is a chemical reaction in your brain if you look at it from the the micro world. Like love is just a chemical reaction... With love it's not a chemical substance that effects your brain chemistry, but a person. I don't see a significant difference between them.


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Re: How much worse for you is LSD than Shrooms... [Re: Annom]
    #3378030 - 11/18/04 08:28 AM (12 years, 17 days ago)

Seems to me that the reason LSD is seen as being more mentally dangerous is the length of duration. Shroom trips last roughly 4 - 8 hours, not really any more. But a strong tab of acid can last a couple of days. That's alot more internal exploring, and, therefore (maybe!), more difficult to return from.
IMHO, you can't go too far wrong if you apply the principles of good set and setting to any trip which you might do.
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Re: How much worse for you is LSD than Shrooms... [Re: sp001]
    #3378104 - 11/18/04 09:01 AM (12 years, 17 days ago)

Your sources are lying to you if they say that LSD is worse for you than shrooms.

Both are relatively safe if you are a sane person.  Like was said, don't go out and eat a sheet of LSD if it's your first time.

The drug itself is not going to hurt you at all physically.  Chinacat speaks of people eating an entire gram crystal of LSD and coming back to reality (that's like 1 million blotter hits or something?).  So it's not going to kill you or anything if that's what you're worried about.

Chances are your friends are telling you rumors they've heard and claiming them to be facts.  People regurgitate too much false information, especially when those rumors were told to them as fact.

Eat a hit or two of acid.  Also check out erowid's vault for LSD info, and do a few google searches.  You'll find a lot of information, and I advise sharing it with those friends of yours.

:thumbup:

Good luck man, and have a good trip if you try LSD!


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2) Scorpios are prone to excesses: booze, drugs, sex, bad puns, etc.
They usually exploit the weaknesses of others, who fall victim to
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Re: How much worse for you is LSD than Shrooms... [Re: Silven]
    #3378207 - 11/18/04 09:37 AM (12 years, 17 days ago)

You can take an insane amount of acid and feel the effects for a long time. But a trip won't generally last 2 days, lol. 8-9 hours is standard I believe.


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Re: How much worse for you is LSD than Shrooms... [Re: Koala Koolio]
    #3378321 - 11/18/04 10:05 AM (12 years, 17 days ago)

exactly my thoughts...12 hours is the max for most ppl


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Re: How much worse for you is LSD than Shrooms... [Re: Iamthewalrus]
    #3378497 - 11/18/04 10:52 AM (12 years, 17 days ago)

Does anyone here have the problem of jaw clenching on acid?


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Re: How much worse for you is LSD than Shrooms... [Re: boeha]
    #3378543 - 11/18/04 10:59 AM (12 years, 17 days ago)

Yep. I clench my jaw a lot on acid. But then again I feel like I'm speeding most of the time on acid too, so that's probably why.

I can never sit down for long.


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1) Scorpios are the most highly sexed of all the signs of the zodiac.
2) Scorpios are prone to excesses: booze, drugs, sex, bad puns, etc.
They usually exploit the weaknesses of others, who fall victim to
their capacity for total lust & sexual abberation.
3) Scorpios possess great intellectual curiosity & creative talent. They
think they are rebels & are arrogant, proud, conceited, and worth every
penny of it.

What do you bring to the table?


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