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Re: BUILD THE WALL [Re: Stable Genius] * 1
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With a mote and laser sharks and ray beems and fire.


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In filth it will be found in dung it will be found

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Re: BUILD THE WALL [Re: Konyap]
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Konyap said:
the reason they have so many kids is because they can't afford condoms and they think that aborted babies go to heaven



That's ridiculous. Condoms are given out for free at community centers. And poor people aren't any more religious than rich people


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Something there is mysteriously formed,
Existing before Heaven and Earth,
Silent, still, standing alone, unchanging,
All-pervading, unfailing,
I do not know its name; I call it tao.
If forced to give it a name, I call it
Great (ta). Being great, it flows out;
Flowing out means far-reaching;
Being far-reaching, it is said to return.

It's just a shot away..

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Re: BUILD THE WALL [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
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https://www.newsweek.com/new-migrant-caravan-15000-hondurans-arrive-mexico-coming-days-1272963

It's only 15,000, let them in. It's not like the numbers just keep adding up.

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Re: BUILD THE WALL [Re: Stable Genius]
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Stable Genius said:
Bill_Oreilly said:
I don't buy it. That's what I call wishful thinking. All those are stats from "imright.com"


Well I gave you a name instead of a list of links, hoping you might have taken the next step by yourself Bill.
Those stats are real.
Sounds like you're ready for a Google challenge instead?
Are you ready?....(starts sharpening pencil)
You may go first.



You told me the name of a man who has a hypothesis that can't be proven or unproven at this time. That's all you did.

How can humans just hit some ceiling where no more people will be adding to the human race? It makes no sense. Babies are being born way too fast and in mass quantities to ever make such a claim and see it as truth.

More makes more. That cycle continues until something stops it. You never mentioned a scenario where a major hault would occur.

The guy is talking out of his ass. He's another who goes to "Imright.com" for his information


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Something there is mysteriously formed,
Existing before Heaven and Earth,
Silent, still, standing alone, unchanging,
All-pervading, unfailing,
I do not know its name; I call it tao.
If forced to give it a name, I call it
Great (ta). Being great, it flows out;
Flowing out means far-reaching;
Being far-reaching, it is said to return.

It's just a shot away..

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Re: BUILD THE WALL [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
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It's about culture.  The under educated working class that feels they are too smart to get a variety of info, watch propaganda for their opinion. They feel non-european (absent of spanish and eastern europeans) is a threat to their 'glory' culture that is God's gift to the Earth and solution to every problem.

Somehow some guy doing drywall for the whom is from down south, is a threat.  Thing is most of these people are predominately native American.  The illegal I know is over half native American.


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"in sterquiliniis invenitur in stercore invenitur"

In filth it will be found in dung it will be found

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Re: BUILD THE WALL [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
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Bill_Oreilly said:
You told me the name of a man who has a hypothesis that can't be proven or unproven at this time. That's all you did.



Laughing out aloud, being a statistician he used statistical analysis, from a couple of different sources, with the best stuff paid for by yourself and other U.S. taxpayers(assuming you pay your taxes Bill?) delivered in a talk to the State Department(pssst, that's part of your government)

Bill_Oreilly said:
The guy is talking out of his ass.


No sadly I'm afraid there is only one person doing that at the moment.


'carn Bill, you can do better, I know you can.
Try Googling 'Debunking Hans Rosling' maybe that will help you out... geez do I have to do all the work?

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Re: BUILD THE WALL [Re: Stable Genius]
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I'm ok with importing more sex workers


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Re: BUILD THE WALL [Re: Konyap] * 1
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Bill_Oreilly said:
I don't buy it. That's what I call wishful thinking. All those are stats from "imright.com"




Bill_Oreilly said:
You told me the name of a man who has a hypothesis that can't be proven or unproven at this time. That's all you did.


Bill_Oreilly said:
The guy is talking out of his ass. He's another who goes to "Imright.com" for his information



Well, I had a look at Imright.com and no matter how hard I looked I couldn't find any of those things you mentioned, all I found was this pic? 


However I did checkout the CIA's website, yeah crazy I know, quoting U.S. government department's... pffft whattertheyknow right?
Anyway, here's one link, plus I already gave you my original source, that name is worth 10 links at least... so lemme see, that makes 11 to me, 0 to you.

While you're there finding stuff out, can you do me a favour please? I forgot to look what Mexico's childbirth rate per 1000 was in 2017, if you don't mind, thanks.

https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/rankorder/2054rank.html

Your turn

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Re: BUILD THE WALL [Re: qman]
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qman said:
https://www.newsweek.com/new-migrant-caravan-15000-hondurans-arrive-mexico-coming-days-1272963

It's only 15,000, let them in. It's not like the numbers just keep adding up.


:cookiemonster:


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Re: BUILD THE WALL [Re: XUL]
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I just found this.

Wow, just wow..

Quote:
Schumer Admits Border Fence Makes Border 'Far More Secure' In Resurfaced Video


Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer (D-NY) said in 2009 that construction of hundreds of miles of fencing along the southern border made the border "far more secure" because it created a "significant barrier to illegal immigration."


https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.dailywire.com/news/39737/watch-schumer-admits-border-fence-makes-border-far-ryan-saavedra%3famp


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Re: BUILD THE WALL [Re: XUL] * 1
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Again, no one is arguing a wall wouldn't make it more secure, we're arguing it's not economical. We have put a much cheaper fence up in key choke points. You guys want to put up a much more costly wall acrosd the entire southern border. This is like building a $1000 fence to add privacy to your $120,000 homs vs a $20,000 25 foot high concrete wall to do it. An intelligent person would go with the fence and maybe some security cameras or an alarm system, a total moron would go woth the concrete barrier.

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Re: BUILD THE WALL [Re: krypto2000] * 1
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krypto2000 said:
Again, no one is arguing a wall wouldn't make it more secure, we're arguing it's not economical. We have put a much cheaper fence up in key choke points. You guys want to put up a much more costly wall acrosd the entire southern border. This is like building a $1000 fence to add privacy to your $120,000 homs vs a $20,000 25 foot high concrete wall to do it. An intelligent person would go with the fence and maybe some security cameras or an alarm system, a total moron would go woth the concrete barrier.


"it's not economical"

That's a matter of opinion, BTW $5 billion is a drop in the bucket relative to the finances of the US government.

In the month of November, the Federal government borrowed $205 billion. It's time to put the money needed for a wall into a proper perspective.

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Re: BUILD THE WALL [Re: qman]
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The theory that a wall stops motivated people is insane.  It didn't work in Berlin.  People got through.

The walls don't last either.  They are virtually useless without being maned.  A man with a rifle every so many hundred yards, whatever the rifle range may be.


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Re: BUILD THE WALL [Re: qman]
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$5 billion isn't how much it will cost though, he's asking for less as a compromise. Originally he wanted $25 billion and a wall will require on going maintenance. I see it as a money pit, a "bridge to no where". If the entire wall could be constructed for $5 billion fixed cost then I'd be a lot more open to it. As it stands there's a lot more effective things we could spend the money on and arguing, "it doesn't cost much" isn't too persuasive to me considering we're deep in debt with no signs of that turning.

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Re: BUILD THE WALL [Re: Morel Guy]
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Morel Guy said:
The theory that a wall stops motivated people is insane.  It didn't work in Berlin.  People got through.

The walls don't last either.  They are virtually useless without being maned.  A man with a rifle every so many hundred yards, whatever the rifle range may be.


So because there's instances where a wall "didn't work", that makes a wall completely ineffective?  No, the wall in Berlin did have a major impact.

I was in Berlin 3 years after the wall came down and no one suggests that human enforcement isn't also a part of the process.

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Re: BUILD THE WALL [Re: krypto2000]
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krypto2000 said:
$5 billion isn't how much it will cost though, he's asking for less as a compromise. Originally he wanted $25 billion and a wall will require on going maintenance. I see it as a money pit, a "bridge to no where". If the entire wall could be constructed for $5 billion fixed cost then I'd be a lot more open to it. As it stands there's a lot more effective things we could spend the money on and arguing, "it doesn't cost much" isn't too persuasive to me considering we're deep in debt with no signs of that turning.


Border enforcement is a cost of having a sovereign nation, there's no way out of it. 

If there's better ways of enforcing the border, I'm not against that possibility.

Something tells me that most people are against the concept of the wall and the associated costs are just a convenient excuse to oppose it.

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Re: BUILD THE WALL [Re: qman]
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There are other reasons to be against the wall, wildlife and environmental damage are probably my second most prominent reason, but I think the poor cost:effectiveness ratio is the primary reason. I do not see it being very effective at all.

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Re: BUILD THE WALL [Re: stevo] * 1
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Yah, but the government serves an actual purpose, a government shutdown isn't going to make a dent in the deficit. I would definitely prefer a big gay parade.

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Re: BUILD THE WALL [Re: krypto2000] * 1
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I’m for a wall that Mexico pays for as promised


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