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there is only taking care of the body along with various achievements for whatever they are worth. If the idea of minimizing one's ego is understood, one must decide whether it's a good idea or not.

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Buster_Brown said:

Some might equate insights into Dukkha (suffering or unsatisfactoriness), Anatta (absence of eternal self) and Anicca (impermanence) as unprofitable.

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RJ Tubs 202 said:

Buster_Brown said:

Some might equate insights into Dukkha (suffering or unsatisfactoriness), Anatta (absence of eternal self) and Anicca (impermanence) as unprofitable.

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Many people find introspection offensive.

Understanding why reaps glorious wisdom.

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Buster_Brown said:

Me and Swami are deficient in the qualifications dept, I think.

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OC said he never felt anything after years of practice . I felt something within several weeks of starting. I know someone who took at least several months, perhaps longer. There was a gap between watching him struggle and seeing him again when he reported success.

Chakras are just feelings, brain and nervous system. There is control to be had both in conjuring and calming. I think the conjuring is primarily useful for scholarly reasons, get the message, hang up the phone, but there's a certain amount of that people tend to do automatically from a more subconscious level. Some people do kundalini yoga. I drink a coffee in the morning.

The guy who could jog for hours barefoot in the snow, I cannot do that. Some monks can wrap themselves in a wet sheet and survive the night exposed in the cold. If I had no evidence such things could be done I wouldn't believe it.

Rahz said:

Buster_Brown said:

Me and Swami are deficient in the qualifications dept, I think.

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OC said he never felt anything after years of practice . I felt something within several weeks of starting. I know someone who took at least several months, perhaps longer. There was a gap between watching him struggle and seeing him again when he reported success.

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laughingdog said:

Rahz said:

Buster_Brown said:

Me and Swami are deficient in the qualifications dept, I think.

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OC said he never felt anything after years of practice . I felt something within several weeks of starting. I know someone who took at least several months, perhaps longer. There was a gap between watching him struggle and seeing him again when he reported success.

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Considering there are many scientific studies,- a few uncontrolled anecdotal stories, even if interesting, are pretty meaningless...

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laughingdog said:

Rahz said:

Buster_Brown said:

Me and Swami are deficient in the qualifications dept, I think.

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OC said he never felt anything after years of practice . I felt something within several weeks of starting. I know someone who took at least several months, perhaps longer. There was a gap between watching him struggle and seeing him again when he reported success.

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Considering there are many scientific studies,- a few uncontrolled anecdotal stories, even if interesting, are pretty meaningless. Both as regards what to expect or not expect, statistical averages, what the possibilities are with good guidance, and the ultimate potentials of practice.

For example if I really wanted to research the subject I might start here:

https://duckduckgo.com/?q=mindfulness+meditation%2C+science+studies&t=h_&ia=web

and here:

https://duckduckgo.com/?q=brainwaves+meditation%2C+science+studies&t=h_&ia=web

You seem to reference Wim Hof
who is also interesting
and there are many videos about him, and by him on utube at
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=wim+hof

Jack Schwartz also showed extraordinary mind body control

but of course their aims were and are different from realizing non-self & impermanence

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Buster_Brown said:

laughingdog said:

Rahz said:

Buster_Brown said:

Me and Swami are deficient in the qualifications dept, I think.

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OC said he never felt anything after years of practice . I felt something within several weeks of starting. I know someone who took at least several months, perhaps longer. There was a gap between watching him struggle and seeing him again when he reported success.

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Considering there are many scientific studies,- a few uncontrolled anecdotal stories, even if interesting, are pretty meaningless...

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Lol, I think he word you were looking for is "inconclusive", not "meaningless" (I could be wrong tho)

Insight (Vipassana) meditationlink
"Vipassana meditation is a component of Buddhist philosophy. Phra Taweepong Inwongsakul and Sampath Kumar from the University of Mysore have been studying the effects of this meditation on 120 students by measuring the associated increase of cortical thickness in the brain. The results of this study are inconclusive."

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Rahz said:

My point was that some people find it more difficult than others. Why you want to argue with that I have no idea.

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Sorry, guess that part of your point, got lost on me, by the part about chakras, in the middle.
I agree that "that some people find it more difficult than others."

laughingdog said:

...accurate data requires both quantity and controls and good experimental design...

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