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Peruvian torch dosages...
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i have 6 pounds of peruvian torch and have been planning to split it up like 3 pounds per person for me and 2 others and have 4 people split the other 3 pounds for lighter doses, only when i got the torch today its 6 pounds, but only like 1.5 foot, enought for what people say is 1 trip... by my calculations, of san pedro having 32.5mgs mescaline per ounce, that makes it over 500mg per person... im real confused because this cacti shows to have around 3000mgs mescaline, i dont think thats good for 1 trip... so whats the deal people? this is a valid question... is there enough for 1 or 6 trips?

oh, and the trips dont have to be native american week long trips... we just wanna have some fun...

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Re: Peruvian torch dosages... [Re: Tremor1127]
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I think you'll have more chance on good replies in ODD so I'm moving ti there :cool:

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Re: Peruvian torch dosages... [Re: stefan]
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man i just have this problem with getting shit in the right forums dont i... hey i dont do that shit on purpose though man lol... and plus im really high...

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Re: Peruvian torch dosages... [Re: Tremor1127]
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wel it wasn't really the wrong forum but I thought you'd have more chance here.
but who knows, I'm high too :lol:

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Re: Peruvian torch dosages... [Re: stefan]
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well thats cool, wherever i can get some answers...

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Re: Peruvian torch dosages... [Re: Tremor1127]
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wow, this thread got moved again... lol... but for real though, even with san pedro 12 ounces is said to produce around 400mg mescaline i believe... now that should be enough for 8 people to have fun on... and this will be all of our first times...

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Re: Peruvian torch dosages... [Re: Tremor1127]
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Trevor, I thought that i explainedd this to you.

1 pound (16 ounces) is equal to 300 to 500 milligrams of mescaline sulfate. That is a clicincal dosage equivalent to one native dosage and is a good trip.

So if it is 12 ounces you have well that woulld be at least a good high.

You therefore would need 7 more cacti of equal weight to get 7 more people off.

John

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Re: Peruvian torch dosages... [Re: Tremor1127]
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ok, my experience with it is, you are going to need 1.5 feet of cactus to do something really satisfying for one person. less, and it is just not worth the effort. the cactus may have so many mg of mescaline in it, but you are going to lose a whole lot in trying ot make an edible decoction out of the cactus. no way are you going to split 1.5 feet between 8 people, 2 would give each of you effects, a taste, but like i said, not worth it. in fact, cactus is not that popular due largely to the fact that it's a serious pain in the ass to prepare them. the trip is nice, but well. i have several of the things growing in my house since i decided to plant them rather than butcher them. have fun though, it's a good time. and remember, bitter, ugh, ah.. the taste, uck

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Re: Peruvian torch dosages... [Re: trancefishy]
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mj i know, but i was thinking maybe it mattered by the height because there is more under the skin surface to be eaten which is supposed to contain mescaline...

well i belive there is going to be 6 people tripping with us... so there should be enough for us then...

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Re: Peruvian torch dosages... [Re: Tremor1127]
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and i tasted it, the taste really isnt that bad, with a little salt i could easily down a pound... unless maybe the core is horrible, but i may not eat the core... only thing is its slimy which makes it seem gross to me...

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Re: Peruvian torch dosages... [Re: Tremor1127]
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this cacti at the bottom is 6 inches wide...  :crazy2:

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Re: Peruvian torch dosages... [Re: Tremor1127]
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around an ounce of dried torch was good enough for a friend of mine who was fasting and wheighted around 55 kilos or 110 pounds...
he says the key is the syrup and the coca-cola when things get nasty.


FH

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Re: Peruvian torch dosages... [Re: trancefishy]
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You do not eat the cactus. You boil it like a stew. Than drink the strain liquid. Apparently you did not see my step-by-step process with more than 30 photographs on how to prepare the san pedro Indian style (with a blender) and believe me you get off and it is not bad tasting to swallow. It is very easy to swallow a large gulp of liquid snotty brew without getting the taste on your tongue to make it uncomfotable.

Eating fresh peyote buttons now that is nauseating, and dried buttons are as bad as fresh but are are harder because they are like hard leather and hard to digest. And you do have to chew them until they break up or you lose a lot of the high in buttons.

No one has to eat san pdero.

And idf yo said that to an shaman he would laugh at you for being afraid to handle the taste of the high which is part of the experience.

Tremor, I wanted to mention that when preparing the cacti by my photo pictorial method, for about 3-4 four hours you have your whole kitchena dnd house witht he aroma of the cacti cooking. You can inhale the aroma as it passes by you when preparing the cacti.

IT we;lcomes and warms uyou up for the forthcoming journey. IT alsohelps to alleviate any bad taste you think is there and believe me when I say it does not taste so bad.

A shame you are not here where I am because then I could cook one for you so that you would know how well it workks.

Mj

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Re: Peruvian torch dosages... [Re: mjshroomer]
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well i just took a bite to see how bad it really tasted and it really didnt have a bad taste, i could eat a shitload of it prolly, thats why i said something about eating it, as i have read your pictoral over and over... but i think i may just prepare it after all just because it sounds like it makes it all more intresting... im going to freeze it a few times first because i heard that is good... unless i hear any objections... thanks again mj...

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Re: Peruvian torch dosages... [Re: Tremor1127]
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well I am by no means a expert but I chugged/chocked 30grams dry p torch down and it was plenty fine for me.....I also hatted the taste but i think next time i will try to stew it like mj says. good luck

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Re: Peruvian torch dosages... [Re: Tremor1127]
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Quote:
around 400mg mescaline i believe... now that should be enough for 8 people to have fun on... and this will be all of our first times...


like mj said mescline dosages are pretty high, 400 mg is more like 1 good dose. check www.erowid.org

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Re: Peruvian torch dosages... [Re: stefan]
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12 ounces is said to produce around 400mg mescaline i believe...



he meant 12oz was 400mg and he has 6lbs so 6 x 16oz = (whatever don't feel like math now) but enough for eight people was what he came up with not that 400mg was enough for eight people :stoned:


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Re: Peruvian torch dosages... [Re: John]
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ok i think i understand... i just kept hearing 1 pound and then kept hearing 1 foot... but sometimes a foot can weigh far more than 1 pound... and i also heard a foot to a foot in a half but about 2 1/2 inches round, i was thinking this was because there was more surface area, meaning more mescaline lurking under the skin... with that i was thinking if i had a pound of cacti, but it was only like 6 inches long then maybe there wasnt much mescaline content because there is so little area with mescaline... anyone can get confused...

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Re: Peruvian torch dosages... [Re: Tremor1127]
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4 more days...  :whoa:

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Re: Peruvian torch dosages... [Re: Tremor1127]
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kevin, if you need any help let me know ill give you my phone number and help you out.


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