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San Pedro/ Peruvian Torch
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Ok, So I've lately become very interested in Mescaline.

What's the best reputable website to order these cacti from?

Which cactus is worth ordering more?  San Pedro or Peruvian Torch?  Why?

I'm not going to ask how to prepare these until I get 'em, also, the mesc. in the cactus stays good aslong as the ccactus does, correct?

Thnx in advance to any replies! :laugh: :thumbup:


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Re: San Pedro/ Peruvian Torch [Re: Ginseng1]
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Peruvian Torch. It has more mescaline, less alkaloids, and you can get it dried which makes preparation much easier. I just run it through a coffee grinder, boil and strain a few times. Much easier than chopping up a fresh cactus and dealing with all the goop.

If it was fresh though, San Pedro would be better because it doesn't have giant razor sharp spines.


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Re: San Pedro/ Peruvian Torch [Re: Divided_Sky]
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i have a 16' peruvian cants wai till its big enough to cut but that will be a few more years so yeah if your looking for a quick high then definitely buy it dried and prepare that but if you have patience than yeah buy a small cactus not seeds the take forever to get going and just grow away cactus are really easy and take almost no work at all

im getting a san pedro from my girlfreind for christmas so ill have anothe little baby but yeah san pedro has a lot more alkaloids and alot less mescaline i also hear its a different smoother trip since the mesc is more dispersed but yeah the peruvians will mess you up good i have had peruvian tea once that my freind made from a cutting he bought online and its awsome if you have a lot of free time where you have nothing important to do

so its all up to you also read at erowid before you make your decision but if you never tried it buy some dried or atleast a cutting so you know what your getting into before you end up spending 4 years growing a plant that you hate the effects of. although peruvians have beautiful blossoms anyway


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Re: San Pedro/ Peruvian Torch [Re: Ginseng1]
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Ginseng1 said:
Ok, So I've lately become very interested in Mescaline.

What's the best reputable website to order these cacti from?

Which cactus is worth ordering more?  San Pedro or Peruvian Torch?  Why?

I'm not going to ask how to prepare these until I get 'em, also, the mesc. in the cactus stays good aslong as the ccactus does, correct?

Thnx in advance to any replies! :laugh: :thumbup:



Don't order san pedro (whichever one has long spines) from Iamshaman.com

The cactus goop does NOT taste bad at all.

Taste of cucumber, texture of banana.

Mixes well with lemon instant tea (which provides some acid for better extraction).

Pure lemon juice would be better.

Just skin and despine it before you blend it, so you don't have to spit anything out.


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Re: San Pedro/ Peruvian Torch [Re: Kid_Orgo]
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Kid_Orgo said:
Don't order san pedro (whichever one has long spines) from Iamshaman.com



peruvian torch.

Why not?

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Re: San Pedro/ Peruvian Torch [Re: Koala Koolio]
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I ended up chugging a shitload of cactus goop,

no trip.


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Re: San Pedro/ Peruvian Torch [Re: Kid_Orgo]
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That's probably why it didn't taste bad. The good stuff is what tastes horrible, so you likely didn't get any or so little it didn't matter.


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Re: San Pedro/ Peruvian Torch [Re: phantasm]
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i have a 16' peruvian cants wai till its big enough to cut but that will be a few more years...

Yeah, a 16 footer is not yet quite big enough.  :rolleyes:


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Re: San Pedro/ Peruvian Torch [Re: Swami]
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I obtained some Pedro about 2 weeks ago and have just left it in my car for a week still in the box and left it outside still in the box these past 4 days and it has been raining hard. I haven't checked to see if it is okay yet. But I'm guessing it'll be no good anymore, or will it?


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Re: San Pedro/ Peruvian Torch [Re: mushiemountain]
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I think it could be okay. Was the box sealed well? did they get soaked? what temperature was the car? It takes a lot to kill these things.

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Re: San Pedro/ Peruvian Torch [Re: Koala Koolio]
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I hope so. I bought it 2 weeks ago and my friend said I could make it at his house, but then now decided I can't. So now I had nowhere to prepare the cactus and it just sat in the car probably anywhere from around 70-90 degrees. The box was sealed and then opened and then sealed again but it's not the most secure sealing. The cactus is also wrapped all around in a bunch of newspapers.


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Re: San Pedro/ Peruvian Torch [Re: Swami]
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Swami said:
i have a 16' peruvian cants wai till its big enough to cut but that will be a few more years...

Yeah, a 16 footer is not yet quite big enough.  :rolleyes:


He's bound to have meant 16"....


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Re: San Pedro/ Peruvian Torch [Re: mushiemountain]
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If it didn't get wet, it'll be alright. I left a peruvian torch cutting that I planned to eat once for nearly two months in a closet wrapped in newspaper. In the end I repotted it, and it started to grow into a healthy plant, so a month in a car should be no problem. Some say that stressing the cactus like this even increases mescaline content. Elgr is right. These plants are very tough.


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Re: San Pedro/ Peruvian Torch [Re: koppie]
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Well I just checked it and the newspaper in the package was all damp and then I saw that the cactus was still a little wet and when I felt the cactus it feels a little mushy. Probably destroyed I would say?


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Re: San Pedro/ Peruvian Torch [Re: mushiemountain]
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Plant it, don't water it, and see what happens. Could very well be fine. If you're planning on eating it, cut open and take a look. If its not disgusting and rotted...

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Re: San Pedro/ Peruvian Torch [Re: Koala Koolio]
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I ahve planted a 2 year old cutting before and it rooted well and grew.


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