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Re: Europeans encouraged to rat on each other [Re: Bigbadwooof] * 1
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MycoMinded said:
XUL said:
MycoMinded said:
Do you mean the hate speech people typically spew shortly before committing hate crimes?






I mean speech in everyday life and on forums/Internet.

Even if someone yelled "Allah" before a crime, there is no need to define his words in some legal term of hate speech. What would be the point of that?

Are you suggesting that anything someone says before committing a crime should be considered hate speech for everyone else?



Are you an olympic athlete XUL? Because you can make some superhuman leaps. Granted they're leaps of logic, but that could carry over to physical leaps for all I know.

AFAIK hate speech is pretty specific, regarding an intense consuming dislike of someone or some group and threatening them with physical harm. It's not wishing them run of the mill misfortune.

Hate speech is the precursor to sociopaths snapping and losing their tenuous grips on reality, and taking action to make their fantasies come true.
It's probably a good indicator of a future significant problem. Admittedly that's conjecture on my part but I'd be willing to bet someone like an FBI profiler would agree.

A good analogy is having a 6 or so year old living in your house that really likes to play with matches. If you don't address the situation, it's a safe bet that your house is going to burn down.

edit: Fixed a typo, added clarification, and saw that you'll be back tomorrow. You'd better be back or have a doctor's note on Monday excusing your absence.



No, what someone might define as "hate speech" does not mean it leads to violent acts, that's a logical fallacy.

Someone getting offended is now often defined as "hate speech",  I don't want people like yourself in charge of regulating speech.

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Re: Europeans encouraged to rat on each other [Re: XUL] * 1
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If there was some fat kid that nobody liked at school and he was getting cyberbullied to the point of  committing suicide or carrying out a mass shooting or something, yeah, I'd probably say something.

If someone sent out a nasty meme and we all had a good laugh and that was the end of it, probably not.


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Either you repeat the same conventional doctrines everybody is saying, or else you say something true, and it will sound like it's from Neptune.  -Noam Chomsky

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Re: Europeans encouraged to rat on each other [Re: qman] * 1
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the governments are encouraging people to rat on their neighbors.  same with the "see something say something" when they had every american looking at a brown person wearing a turban with suspicion, when they never did anything and had nothing to do with 9/11.    it is wretched.  its called psychological warfare and it is a tool to divide.  Dont fall for that fucking shit.

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Re: Europeans encouraged to rat on each other [Re: sprinkles]
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sprinkles said:
the governments are encouraging people to rat on their neighbors.  same with the "see something say something" when they had every american looking at a brown person wearing a turban with suspicion.  it is wretched.  a tool to divide.  Dont fall for that fucking shit.




I totally agree.

And every liberal in this thread defended the article call for reporting hate speech -- even if they didn't read it. Liberals don't defend speech or any freedom. For some reason, they want to kill it and defend reporting "hate speech." Especially when they can't even operationally define it!

It's obvious as of late.


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Re: Europeans encouraged to rat on each other [Re: XUL]
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liberals and conservatives.  they are the same.  you are them and they are you.  it doesn't matter.



all those people in government all play golf together.  this is all a play on stage.  it is all an act.  and when the population isnt worried about working two jobs just to scrape by and survive, or their loved one who is hooked on drugs, or the cancer or diseases they are fighting... when they are not worried about surviving then they are occupied by conflict of US vs THEM political bullshit.  Dont you see?


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When telling the truth becomes an act of treason, and society chooses delusion and deception over fundamental reality, you've been invaded and infiltrated by other beings that have now integrated into your country and community.  Bless our reptile overlords who control, harvest, and eat us.

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Re: Europeans encouraged to rat on each other [Re: XUL]
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XUL said:
sprinkles said:
the governments are encouraging people to rat on their neighbors.  same with the "see something say something" when they had every american looking at a brown person wearing a turban with suspicion.  it is wretched.  a tool to divide.  Dont fall for that fucking shit.




I totally agree.

And every liberal in this thread defended the article call for reporting hate speech -- even if they didn't read it. Liberals don't defend speech or any freedom. For some reason, they want to kill it and defend reporting "hate speech." Especially when they can't even operationally define it!

It's obvious as of late.



Many on the left want to censor and control the free exchange of ideas and speech.  They are NOT for freedom, they only want speech of what THEY approve of, and any disagreement is where censorship comes into play.

They use rationalizations like it leads to 'violent acts' and people might 'freakout' and it's just too dangerous. 

It'a all about control and power, when I can restrict what you can communicate with other people, I own you.

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Re: Europeans encouraged to rat on each other [Re: XUL]
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I cant encourage you enough to get the bigger picture here.  Please do your research, start looking into history.  SEE what is REALLY GOING ON so you can be a voice for other people to do the same.  Then MAYBE we can start actually changing.  When the people change, the government will change.  it is a natural "law"


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When telling the truth becomes an act of treason, and society chooses delusion and deception over fundamental reality, you've been invaded and infiltrated by other beings that have now integrated into your country and community.  Bless our reptile overlords who control, harvest, and eat us.

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Re: Europeans encouraged to rat on each other [Re: sprinkles]
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The way that the left has been approaching free speech in recent years is quite disturbing to me. Disturbing, and shocking. It really pisses me off.


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"It is no measure of good health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society," - Jiddu Krishnamurti
FARTS
"No my dog won't bite you, tho it had the right to. You ought to give him credit, cuz he knows I woulda let him" - Modest Mouse (And Wooof!)
Every one of you should see this video.
"Facts are chiels that winna ding, and downa be disputed" - Robert Burns


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Re: Europeans encouraged to rat on each other [Re: Bigbadwooof]
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arguing about politics is just sheer fucking stupidity, imo.  its so small minded, I just cant engage or even entertain it for a second.


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When telling the truth becomes an act of treason, and society chooses delusion and deception over fundamental reality, you've been invaded and infiltrated by other beings that have now integrated into your country and community.  Bless our reptile overlords who control, harvest, and eat us.

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Re: Europeans encouraged to rat on each other [Re: sprinkles]
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The social situation you exist in can be about the most relevant thing there is.


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Either you repeat the same conventional doctrines everybody is saying, or else you say something true, and it will sound like it's from Neptune.  -Noam Chomsky

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Re: Europeans encouraged to rat on each other [Re: sprinkles]
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sprinkles said:
I cant encourage you enough to get the bigger picture here.  Please do your research, start looking into history.  SEE what is REALLY GOING ON so you can be a voice for other people to do the same.  Then MAYBE we can start actually changing.  When the people change, the government will change.  it is a natural "law"



You keep saying that. Can you make a thread with references?

I am open ears/eyes.


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Re: Europeans encouraged to rat on each other [Re: XUL]
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XUL said:
sprinkles said:
I cant encourage you enough to get the bigger picture here.  Please do your research, start looking into history.  SEE what is REALLY GOING ON so you can be a voice for other people to do the same.  Then MAYBE we can start actually changing.  When the people change, the government will change.  it is a natural "law"



You keep saying that. Can you make a thread with references?

I am open ears/eyes.



Yes, Sprinkles... make us woke.


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"It is no measure of good health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society," - Jiddu Krishnamurti
FARTS
"No my dog won't bite you, tho it had the right to. You ought to give him credit, cuz he knows I woulda let him" - Modest Mouse (And Wooof!)
Every one of you should see this video.
"Facts are chiels that winna ding, and downa be disputed" - Robert Burns


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