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Europeans encouraged to rat on each other
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Europe seems to be retreating into a state run system where rights are being taken and regulations pile on every day.

It reminds me of North Korea.

I just read this insane article that explains Scottish kids being encouraged to report their neighbors for using "hate speech" on the internet.

"Hate crime is defined as "any crime which is perceived by the victim or any other person as being motivated by malice or ill will towards a social group."

With this vague definition being used by authorities, how are kids supposed to know what a 'hate crime" is?

If there is a social group of gammers and someone calls them nerds are there going to be arrests?

No wonder we kicked the British out.

I feel sorry for these kids.

Quote:
"It is vital that people report any hate incidents to us. Everyone has the right to live in safety and without fear."

ACC MacDonald added: "We are aware that hate crime is often under-reported, however, Police Scotland is committed to reviewing and fully investigating all reports of hate.

"I would encourage anyone who has been the victim of hate crime in any form, to come forward and report it to the police by calling 101 or 999 if it is an emergency."

Community Safety Minister Annabelle Ewing said: "There is absolutely no place for any kind of prejudice in Scotland.

"This campaign will not only encourage and empower young people to recognise hate crime and report it..."




https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/amp/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-43436900


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Edited by XUL (11/16/18 12:22 PM)

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Re: Europeans encouraged to rat on each other [Re: XUL] * 3
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Yes. Europe is exactly like North Korea :facepalm:


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“if I believed she was 16 I would become unattracted to her”

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Re: Europeans encouraged to rat on each other [Re: XUL]
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lolz north korea.  gtfo

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Re: Europeans encouraged to rat on each other [Re: relic]
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ha, beat me to it.  being friday nice, that's the most ridiculous comment in some time.

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Re: Europeans encouraged to rat on each other [Re: relic]
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In North Korea citizens are encouraged to rat each other out for state crimes.

In Scotland kids are encouraged to rat each other out for crimes.

And remember, unacceptable hate speech includes criticizing the great Muhammed.

So many rules and regulations on speech!


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Re: Europeans encouraged to rat on each other [Re: relic]
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relic said:
ha,



Do you think calling a social group of gammers a "bunch or nerds" should be considered a hate crimes?

Should criticizing Jesus or Muhammed be considered hate speech?


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Re: Europeans encouraged to rat on each other [Re: XUL] * 2
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in america we breath oxygen and drink water.  in north korea they breath oxygen and drink water.

:baseballfuck:

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Re: Europeans encouraged to rat on each other [Re: XUL]
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i don't know what a gammer is.

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Re: Europeans encouraged to rat on each other [Re: XUL]
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XUL said:
relic said:
ha,



Do you think calling a social group of gammers a "bunch or nerds" should be considered a hate crimes?

Should criticizing Jesus or Muhammed be considered hate speech?




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Re: Europeans encouraged to rat on each other [Re: XUL]
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Stupid


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Re: Europeans encouraged to rat on each other [Re: relic]
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XUL said:
XUL said:
relic said:
ha,



Do you think calling a social group of gammers a "bunch or nerds" should be considered a hate crimes?

Should criticizing Jesus or Muhammed be considered hate speech?





relic said:
i don't know what a gammer is.



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Re: Europeans encouraged to rat on each other [Re: relic]
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North Korea is run by Donald Trumps best friend


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NotSheekle said
“if I believed she was 16 I would become unattracted to her”

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Re: Europeans encouraged to rat on each other [Re: koods]
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Where in that article does it report that Europeans are being encouraged to rat on each other?


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Re: Europeans encouraged to rat on each other [Re: koods] * 1
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VroomerMcZoomers said:
Stupid



relic said:
lolz north korea.  gtfo



koods said:
Yes. Europe is exactly like North Korea :facepalm:




And leftists compare Trump and his voters to Hitler and Nazi Germany!

The hypocrisy!

:lolsy::lolsy:


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Re: Europeans encouraged to rat on each other [Re: relic]
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relic said:
XUL said:
XUL said:
relic said:
ha,



Do you think calling a social group of gammers a "bunch or nerds" should be considered a hate crimes?

Should criticizing Jesus or Muhammed be considered hate speech?





relic said:
i don't know what a gammer is.





Gamer. Sorry.

Can you answer the questions?


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Re: Europeans encouraged to rat on each other [Re: XUL] * 1
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To answer your question, I actually agree with you; gamers are the most oppressed minority because of liberal sjws.




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Re: Europeans encouraged to rat on each other [Re: shivas.wisdom] * 1
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Re: Europeans encouraged to rat on each other [Re: shivas.wisdom]
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shivas.wisdom said:
To answer your question, I actually agree with you; gamers are the most oppressed minority because of liberal sjws.






Do you think calling a group of gamers nerds is a hate crime?

Yes or no.


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Re: Europeans encouraged to rat on each other [Re: XUL] * 1
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I didn't realize I needed to be clearer. Yes, gamers are the most oppressed minority and calling a group of gamers 'nerd' should be a hate crime.


At least women, muslims, queer folk, and black people all get recognition. Literally no one but gammers ever even thinks about gamers




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Re: Europeans encouraged to rat on each other [Re: shivas.wisdom]
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XUL lives in a society.

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Re: Europeans encouraged to rat on each other [Re: shivas.wisdom]
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shivas.wisdom said:
I didn't realize I needed to be clearer. Yes, gamers are the most oppressed minority and calling a group of gamers 'nerd' should be a hate crime.


At least women, muslims, queer folk, and black people all get recognition. Literally no one but gammers ever even thinks about gamers






That is absolutely ridiculous.

Europeans reporting each other because someone called them a nerd! XD

With this kind of threshold I think everyone might be committing a hate crime every day!

"Those football hooligans are bloody assholes." HATE CRIME! Pay your fine!


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Re: Europeans encouraged to rat on each other [Re: XUL]
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Do you think that maybe they're just freaking out about all the school shootings here and trying to prevent something similar happening there? I do.

Their surveillance technology probably isn't as sophisticated and automated as here. Our govt doesn't have to resort to asking us to rat on each other, we're self-ratting.

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Re: Europeans encouraged to rat on each other [Re: MycoMinded]
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Hey, it's a restrictive culture.

To each their own.

I'm glad I'm not them though. That would suck.


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Re: Europeans encouraged to rat on each other [Re: MycoMinded] * 3
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Xul thinks that crimes motivated by hate shouldn’t be reported. :facepalm:

I remember back in the day when Muslims were the terror threat -  and not trump supporters - we were told that political correctness was keeping people from reporting dangerous and suspicious activity. Now that it’s right wingers who we need to be worried about, reporting on your neighbors is North Korea-like behavior.



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NotSheekle said
“if I believed she was 16 I would become unattracted to her”

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Re: Europeans encouraged to rat on each other [Re: XUL] * 1
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XUL said:
And leftists compare Trump and his voters to Hitler and Nazi Germany!

The hypocrisy!






and rightists compare scotland to north korea!

the hypocrisy!

:lolsy::lolsy::lolsy::lolsy::lolsy::lolsy::lolsy::lolsy:

insufferable.

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Re: Europeans encouraged to rat on each other [Re: relic]
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More like retardation.  :flowstone:

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Re: Europeans encouraged to rat on each other [Re: XUL]
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This has to be the biggest pile of horse shite of a post I've seen so far.


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Re: Europeans encouraged to rat on each other [Re: XUL]
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XUL said:
Can you answer the questions?



yes, i can.

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Re: Europeans encouraged to rat on each other [Re: koods]
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No, Koods, not hate crimes. Hate speech.

There is a difference.


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Re: Europeans encouraged to rat on each other [Re: XUL]
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Do you mean the hate speech people typically spew shortly before committing hate crimes?

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Re: Europeans encouraged to rat on each other [Re: MycoMinded]
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MycoMinded said:
Do you mean the hate speech people typically spew shortly before committing hate crimes?




I mean speech in everyday life and on forums/Internet.

Even if someone yelled "Allah" before a crime, there is no need to define his words in some legal term of hate speech. What would be the point of that?

Are you suggesting that anything someone says before committing a crime should be considered hate speech for everyone else?


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Re: Europeans encouraged to rat on each other [Re: XUL]
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XUL said:
No, Koods, not hate crimes. Hate speech.

There is a difference.



The article you posted is about reporting hate crimes


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NotSheekle said
“if I believed she was 16 I would become unattracted to her”

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Re: Europeans encouraged to rat on each other [Re: koods]
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koods said:
XUL said:
No, Koods, not hate crimes. Hate speech.

There is a difference.



The article you posted is about reporting hate crimes




The title of the article reads:

"Hate crime 'police priority' as social media cases soar"

"Many cases involved social media being used for bullying, with fake accounts created to perpetrate abuse."


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Edited by XUL (11/17/18 08:47 AM)

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Re: Europeans encouraged to rat on each other [Re: XUL] * 1
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Right.  Hate crime. Didn't even say hate speech anywhere there.


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Edited by VroomerMcZoomers (11/17/18 11:40 AM)

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Re: Europeans encouraged to rat on each other [Re: VroomerMcZoomers]
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VroomerMcZoomers said:
Right.  Hate crime.



Let me explain.

A hate crime is a general term, which includes differentiating modes such as "speech," harrassment, or perhaps general violence.

Keep in mind, on the internet, we use speech, which is where the article drew its focus. Thus, hate speech is part of the topic at hand, which I don't even know why you are debating.

Edit:

From the article:

"Many cases involved social media being used for bullying, with fake accounts created to perpetrate abuse."


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Re: Europeans encouraged to rat on each other [Re: XUL]
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Yeah.  Many cases of hate crime involved bullying on social media. 

It's kind of like how many cases of vandalism involve spray paint.

In some places, cyberbullying is a crime too.  Fine.

I don't see how this is foreboding for Europe.  And, I still don't see how Europeans are being encouraged to rat on each other.


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Re: Europeans encouraged to rat on each other [Re: VroomerMcZoomers]
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VroomerMcZoomers said:
I don't see how this is foreboding for Europe.  And, I still don't see how Europeans are being encouraged to rat on each other.




From the article:

"This campaign will not only encourage and empower young people to recognise hate crime and report it..."


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Re: Europeans encouraged to rat on each other [Re: XUL] * 1
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So you don't think hate crimes should be reported?


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"great things may come to those who wait, but only what's left by those who hustle"

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Re: Europeans encouraged to rat on each other [Re: Bumholio]
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Bumholio said:
So you don't think hate crimes should be reported?



I believe hate speech laws in Europe are spiraling out of control. Now children are being told it's okay to report each other for "hateful" speech against a "social group." This is sickening to me.

Conversely, if a man walked around punching only Asians, it could possibly be considered a hate crime. These crimes are sickening.

Violence is bad, speech should be free, and Europe is destroying their own free speech by encouraging the reporting of neighbors, fining speech, and jailing offenders.


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Re: Europeans encouraged to rat on each other [Re: XUL] * 1
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What the fuck  is wrong with reporting someone who is bullying a student with insults and name calling?


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NotSheekle said
“if I believed she was 16 I would become unattracted to her”

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Re: Europeans encouraged to rat on each other [Re: koods]
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koods said:
What the fuck  is wrong with reporting someone who is bullying a student with insults and name calling?



The call for reports are not exclusive to school time activity, but at any time in life. Simply, the article talks about younger age people, but is not limited to them.

As you can see, not all reported hate crimes include solely teenagers.

Further, as you know, a woman giving a lecture in Europe was fined for criticizing Muhammed.

Quote:
Police Scotland said a total of 5,889 hate crime files were created in 2016/17.

About 900 cases involved a perpetrator aged between 11 and 15 and one-third of those 900 incidents (32%) also involved victims in the same age group.



This pertains to adults too. Adults could potentially report child hate speech. Children could report adult hate speech.


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Edited by XUL (11/17/18 01:27 PM)

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Re: Europeans encouraged to rat on each other [Re: XUL] * 3
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Quote:
From the article:

"This campaign will not only encourage and empower young people to recognise hate crime and report it..."




Thank you

That little line inspired you to do another post about how you think Europe is goin' down?

Much ado about nothing.  Like the hate speech conviction against the person who put on a seminar or whatever for the sole purpose of slamming Mohamed.

I guess in some parts of Europe, they have determined that maliciously slamming the figurehead of a major world religion is just a social powder keg.  People might freak when you do that.  So there's a law against it.

What if someone went around giving lectures about every single thing your mom ever did that would make people hate her while saying nothing about any virtues she may have?  How would you feel about that?

You know something else they have in Europe that was supposed to be the slippery slope to totalitarianism?  Public health insurance.  Back in the mid 20th century, Ronald Reagan and the rest of Ayn Rand types were telling us all how that will lead to communism.



Fifty years later, Europe is more democratic that America, its population is healthier and people don't go bankrupt from medical bills or put off medical care because they can't afford it.  And the public debt there is in less than America's despite the government paying for the nation's medical bills!

Bah ha!

This crap you post about Europe is just downright weird.  Where are you getting this from?


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Re: Europeans encouraged to rat on each other [Re: VroomerMcZoomers]
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This is not an isolated incident. If you want me to post references I can. Further, encouragement was mentioned more than one time in the article. You would know that if you had read the article instead of making me post snippets that were already in the OP.

Europe has the luxury of military defense paid largely by the U.S. Further, we aid many countries around the world.

Perhaps if we withdrew our finances from around the globe, we could give our own people what they deserve.


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Re: Europeans encouraged to rat on each other [Re: XUL]
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XUL said:
This is not an isolated incident. If you want me to post references I can.



Ok, go


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Re: Europeans encouraged to rat on each other [Re: Bumholio]
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I will, but tomorrow.


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Re: Europeans encouraged to rat on each other [Re: XUL] * 1
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Quote:
Europe has the luxury of military defense paid largely by the U.S. Further, we aid many countries around the worl




Says America, the same America that said Iraq had weapons of mass destruction that could hit US soil in a matter of minutes.  America is a paranoid basket case when it comes to perceiving threats. Europe doesn't need protection from America's made-up threats.

Quote:
Perhaps if we withdrew our finances from around the globe, we could give our own people what they deserve.




The globe would be absolutely thrilled to be rid of the #1 imperial tyrant of the 21st century,


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Either you repeat the same conventional doctrines everybody is saying, or else you say something true, and it will sound like it's from Neptune.  -Noam Chomsky

Edited by VroomerMcZoomers (11/17/18 04:07 PM)

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Re: Europeans encouraged to rat on each other [Re: XUL] * 1
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Bumholio said:
XUL said:
This is not an isolated incident. If you want me to post references I can.



Ok, go



XUL said:
I will, but tomorrow.



:kittylaugh:


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"great things may come to those who wait, but only what's left by those who hustle"

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Re: Europeans encouraged to rat on each other [Re: Bumholio]
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Been on this debate all day. I'll be back tomorrow.


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Re: Europeans encouraged to rat on each other [Re: XUL] * 1
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XUL said:
MycoMinded said:
Do you mean the hate speech people typically spew shortly before committing hate crimes?




I mean speech in everyday life and on forums/Internet.

Even if someone yelled "Allah" before a crime, there is no need to define his words in some legal term of hate speech. What would be the point of that?

Are you suggesting that anything someone says before committing a crime should be considered hate speech for everyone else?



Are you an olympic athlete XUL? Because you can make some superhuman leaps. Granted they're leaps of logic, but that could carry over to physical leaps for all I know.

AFAIK hate speech is pretty specific, regarding an intense consuming dislike of someone or some group and threatening them with physical harm. It's not wishing them run of the mill misfortune.

Hate speech is the precursor to sociopaths snapping and losing their tenuous grips on reality, and taking action to make their fantasies come true.
It's probably a good indicator of a future significant problem. Admittedly that's conjecture on my part but I'd be willing to bet someone like an FBI profiler would agree.

A good analogy is having a 6 or so year old living in your house that really likes to play with matches. If you don't address the situation, it's a safe bet that your house is going to burn down.

edit: Fixed a typo, added clarification, and saw that you'll be back tomorrow. You'd better be back or have a doctor's note on Monday excusing your absence.

Edited by MycoMinded (11/17/18 05:02 PM)

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Re: Europeans encouraged to rat on each other [Re: XUL]
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Maybe this is where you get your bullshit from.



Townhall has a right wing bias through story selection and sensational wording of headlines.

Hey, that's your modus operandi!  Do you work there?


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Re: Europeans encouraged to rat on each other [Re: VroomerMcZoomers]
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Actually, I get it right off Google news!

Gotta love tech Giants and their awesome algorithms.


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Re: Europeans encouraged to rat on each other [Re: koods]
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koods said:
Yes. Europe is exactly like North Korea :facepalm:



More of a Soviet Union, North Korean hybrid, culturally.


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FARTS
"No my dog won't bite you, tho it had the right to. You ought to give him credit, cuz he knows I woulda let him" - Modest Mouse (And Wooof!)
Every one of you should see this video.
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Re: Europeans encouraged to rat on each other [Re: Bigbadwooof]
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Bigbadwooof said:
koods said:
Yes. Europe is exactly like North Korea :facepalm:



More of a Soviet Union, North Korean hybrid, culturally.



Truth.

America is the last beacon of the definition of of freedom.


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Re: Europeans encouraged to rat on each other [Re: XUL] * 2
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Here's the outline of the landscape illuminated by that beacon.



They don't have this level of freedom in Europe.


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VroomerMcZoomers said:
Here's the outline of the landscape illuminated by that beacon.



They don't have this level of freedom in Europe.



It's actually illegal to be homeless in many places in the United States. They arrest people who have no home, and throw them in jail using 'no camping' laws lol.

Freedom is a buzzword in America. We have 25% of the worlds prisoners and 5% of it's population. Honestly, that is truly comparable to the USSR.

You can buy shrooms legally in Germany. The drug laws in Europe are far more lax. We do not have freedom.


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"It is no measure of good health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society," - Jiddu Krishnamurti
FARTS
"No my dog won't bite you, tho it had the right to. You ought to give him credit, cuz he knows I woulda let him" - Modest Mouse (And Wooof!)
Every one of you should see this video.
"Facts are chiels that winna ding, and downa be disputed" - Robert Burns


Edited by Bigbadwooof (11/18/18 10:12 AM)

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:whathesaid:


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I am in a minority on the shroomery, as I frequently defend the opposing side when they have a point about something or when my side make believes something about them.  I also attack my side if I think they're wrong.  People here get very confused by that and think it means I prefer the other side.

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Re: Europeans encouraged to rat on each other [Re: VroomerMcZoomers]
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VroomerMcZoomers said:
Quote:
From the article:

"This campaign will not only encourage and empower young people to recognise hate crime and report it..."




Thank you

That little line inspired you to do another post about how you think Europe is goin' down?

Much ado about nothing.  Like the hate speech conviction against the person who put on a seminar or whatever for the sole purpose of slamming Mohamed.

I guess in some parts of Europe, they have determined that maliciously slamming the figurehead of a major world religion is just a social powder keg.  People might freak when you do that.  So there's a law against it.

What if someone went around giving lectures about every single thing your mom ever did that would make people hate her while saying nothing about any virtues she may have?  How would you feel about that?

This crap you post about Europe is just downright weird.  Where are you getting this from?



Do you think it's a good idea to censor criticisms of certain beliefs because it might freak people out?      I think that's a very dangerous road to go down.

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Re: Europeans encouraged to rat on each other [Re: Bigbadwooof]
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Would you rat on your fellow man for hateful speech against a social group?


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Re: Europeans encouraged to rat on each other [Re: XUL]
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XUL said:
Would you rat on your fellow man for hateful speech against a social group?



I believe in unfettered free speech. I believe in free speech on the footsteps of powerful institutions, and not corralled into 'zones'. Just like I believe in DRASTIC prison reform. I believe in freedom, which is something we do not have.


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"It is no measure of good health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society," - Jiddu Krishnamurti
FARTS
"No my dog won't bite you, tho it had the right to. You ought to give him credit, cuz he knows I woulda let him" - Modest Mouse (And Wooof!)
Every one of you should see this video.
"Facts are chiels that winna ding, and downa be disputed" - Robert Burns


Edited by Bigbadwooof (11/18/18 10:51 AM)

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MycoMinded said:
XUL said:
MycoMinded said:
Do you mean the hate speech people typically spew shortly before committing hate crimes?






I mean speech in everyday life and on forums/Internet.

Even if someone yelled "Allah" before a crime, there is no need to define his words in some legal term of hate speech. What would be the point of that?

Are you suggesting that anything someone says before committing a crime should be considered hate speech for everyone else?



Are you an olympic athlete XUL? Because you can make some superhuman leaps. Granted they're leaps of logic, but that could carry over to physical leaps for all I know.

AFAIK hate speech is pretty specific, regarding an intense consuming dislike of someone or some group and threatening them with physical harm. It's not wishing them run of the mill misfortune.

Hate speech is the precursor to sociopaths snapping and losing their tenuous grips on reality, and taking action to make their fantasies come true.
It's probably a good indicator of a future significant problem. Admittedly that's conjecture on my part but I'd be willing to bet someone like an FBI profiler would agree.

A good analogy is having a 6 or so year old living in your house that really likes to play with matches. If you don't address the situation, it's a safe bet that your house is going to burn down.

edit: Fixed a typo, added clarification, and saw that you'll be back tomorrow. You'd better be back or have a doctor's note on Monday excusing your absence.



No, what someone might define as "hate speech" does not mean it leads to violent acts, that's a logical fallacy.

Someone getting offended is now often defined as "hate speech",  I don't want people like yourself in charge of regulating speech.

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If there was some fat kid that nobody liked at school and he was getting cyberbullied to the point of  committing suicide or carrying out a mass shooting or something, yeah, I'd probably say something.

If someone sent out a nasty meme and we all had a good laugh and that was the end of it, probably not.


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the governments are encouraging people to rat on their neighbors.  same with the "see something say something" when they had every american looking at a brown person wearing a turban with suspicion, when they never did anything and had nothing to do with 9/11.    it is wretched.  its called psychological warfare and it is a tool to divide.  Dont fall for that fucking shit.

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sprinkles said:
the governments are encouraging people to rat on their neighbors.  same with the "see something say something" when they had every american looking at a brown person wearing a turban with suspicion.  it is wretched.  a tool to divide.  Dont fall for that fucking shit.




I totally agree.

And every liberal in this thread defended the article call for reporting hate speech -- even if they didn't read it. Liberals don't defend speech or any freedom. For some reason, they want to kill it and defend reporting "hate speech." Especially when they can't even operationally define it!

It's obvious as of late.


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Re: Europeans encouraged to rat on each other [Re: XUL]
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liberals and conservatives.  they are the same.  you are them and they are you.  it doesn't matter.



all those people in government all play golf together.  this is all a play on stage.  it is all an act.  and when the population isnt worried about working two jobs just to scrape by and survive, or their loved one who is hooked on drugs, or the cancer or diseases they are fighting... when they are not worried about surviving then they are occupied by conflict of US vs THEM political bullshit.  Dont you see?


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When telling the truth becomes an act of treason, and society chooses delusion and deception over fundamental reality, you've been invaded and infiltrated by other beings that have now integrated into your country and community.  Bless our reptile overlords who control, harvest, and eat us.

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XUL said:
sprinkles said:
the governments are encouraging people to rat on their neighbors.  same with the "see something say something" when they had every american looking at a brown person wearing a turban with suspicion.  it is wretched.  a tool to divide.  Dont fall for that fucking shit.




I totally agree.

And every liberal in this thread defended the article call for reporting hate speech -- even if they didn't read it. Liberals don't defend speech or any freedom. For some reason, they want to kill it and defend reporting "hate speech." Especially when they can't even operationally define it!

It's obvious as of late.



Many on the left want to censor and control the free exchange of ideas and speech.  They are NOT for freedom, they only want speech of what THEY approve of, and any disagreement is where censorship comes into play.

They use rationalizations like it leads to 'violent acts' and people might 'freakout' and it's just too dangerous. 

It'a all about control and power, when I can restrict what you can communicate with other people, I own you.

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I cant encourage you enough to get the bigger picture here.  Please do your research, start looking into history.  SEE what is REALLY GOING ON so you can be a voice for other people to do the same.  Then MAYBE we can start actually changing.  When the people change, the government will change.  it is a natural "law"


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When telling the truth becomes an act of treason, and society chooses delusion and deception over fundamental reality, you've been invaded and infiltrated by other beings that have now integrated into your country and community.  Bless our reptile overlords who control, harvest, and eat us.

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The way that the left has been approaching free speech in recent years is quite disturbing to me. Disturbing, and shocking. It really pisses me off.


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"No my dog won't bite you, tho it had the right to. You ought to give him credit, cuz he knows I woulda let him" - Modest Mouse (And Wooof!)
Every one of you should see this video.
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arguing about politics is just sheer fucking stupidity, imo.  its so small minded, I just cant engage or even entertain it for a second.


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The social situation you exist in can be about the most relevant thing there is.


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sprinkles said:
I cant encourage you enough to get the bigger picture here.  Please do your research, start looking into history.  SEE what is REALLY GOING ON so you can be a voice for other people to do the same.  Then MAYBE we can start actually changing.  When the people change, the government will change.  it is a natural "law"



You keep saying that. Can you make a thread with references?

I am open ears/eyes.


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XUL said:
sprinkles said:
I cant encourage you enough to get the bigger picture here.  Please do your research, start looking into history.  SEE what is REALLY GOING ON so you can be a voice for other people to do the same.  Then MAYBE we can start actually changing.  When the people change, the government will change.  it is a natural "law"



You keep saying that. Can you make a thread with references?

I am open ears/eyes.



Yes, Sprinkles... make us woke.


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"It is no measure of good health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society," - Jiddu Krishnamurti
FARTS
"No my dog won't bite you, tho it had the right to. You ought to give him credit, cuz he knows I woulda let him" - Modest Mouse (And Wooof!)
Every one of you should see this video.
"Facts are chiels that winna ding, and downa be disputed" - Robert Burns


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