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LC Honey PC @8psi
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Hello! I got a pc which reaches 9 at max, how many time do you guys think I need to put it inside the PC at this psi? 45min? 1 hour?

My recipe is:

1. Mix 4% honey and 96ml of water
2. Wash my PP5 containers
3. Make a hole and tape it with micropore (1 layer)
4. Pour the mix and close completely the lid
5. Put a layer of tin foil like the BRF Jars
6. PC @9psi 1hour and let it cool down at night
7. Inoculate the container through the micropore at SAB and put another layer of micropore (the 2nd layer)
8. Done?

Am I correct? opinions, since nothing grew, but I think the problem are the spores (pretty clear syringe).  ):

This is my honey:



Edited by roses4lg (03/27/18 04:49 AM)

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Re: LC Honey PC @8psi [Re: roses4lg]
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If nothing grew then your time for pressure cooking was probably fine.

Could be old spores, how long did you wait to see growth?

Also we strongly discourage making LC From spores around here.


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Edited by elasticaltiger (03/27/18 04:53 AM)

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Re: LC Honey PC @8psi [Re: elasticaltiger]
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I inoculate them 1 week ago and nothing ): So 1hour @8-9psi is fine?

So, which tek do you follow to make LC?


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Re: LC Honey PC @8psi [Re: roses4lg]
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This one

https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/23740857


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First time growing cakes? DON'T make a Shotgun Fruiting Chamber

The Shmuvbox. - The Old TC's Like it :shrug:

Afraid to Start Growing From Your Own Prints? Drop it Like a Tiger!
No Pouring. No Syringes. No Cutting. No flaming. No Contamination. No Bullshit.

"The best thing to do while your waiting is to start more stuff. I usually got so much happening that I have tossed projects simply because I didn't have time for them. -Pastywhite QFT

Pastywhite's Easy Agar Tek (PastyPlates)

Tiger Drop Video Demos By munchauzen

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Re: LC Honey PC @8psi [Re: elasticaltiger]
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Also honey + water is just a sugar LC which has garbage performance


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Re: LC Honey PC @8psi [Re: elasticaltiger] * 1
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elasticaltiger said:
If nothing grew then your time for pressure cooking was probably fine.

Could be old spores, how long did you wait to see growth?

Also we strongly discourage making LC From spores around here.


Agreed, and if the syringe was very clear hopefully you knew to shake the ever-loving-piss out of it prior to inoculating the LC to distribute the spores in the syringe.

I've had plenty of good results with sugar based LC's, but never honey - still don't let that deter you from your current project, just try something else in the future like tiger linked you (think I'm gonna give that TEK a go myself, doing a variety ATM to see which works/which I like best, looks more promising than other TEK's I've been seeing).

Doesn't mean it's a total loss because you used honey, people used it for decades.  Just may want to invest a bit for your next run so you don't get stuck in a loop of MS>LC and old tek methodology, there are a lot of newer alternatives, particularly liquid inoculant (LI) and malt/dextrose/grain based LC's.

Hope you see some growth!

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Re: LC Honey PC @8psi [Re: elasticaltiger]
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So basically the optimal procedure is use agar
elasticaltiger said:
This one

https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/23740857


Im trying to figure out the tek but I don't understand this part

"So for 120 ml final LC I want to be using about 2-4 grams worth of nutes, be it potato or malt etc. I then make up about 50 ml of water with 2-4 grams nutrition and 1 gram agar. This puts the agar at 2% and nutrient rich."

What are nutes? And which is the actual recipe since I don't get it ):


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Re: LC Honey PC @8psi [Re: roses4lg] * 1
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Nutes = Nutrients.

Agar media is made up of two parts, agar which is basically natural gelatin, and nutrients for the cultures/mycelium to feed off of.

I found this confusing when I came back as well, as I'd always had great results with sugar based LC's and TEKs using the newer methods were not really clear on how they go about "producing the nutrients"

People are finding better results by simmering things like potato flakes and straining it, leaving you with water full of potato nutrients, or grinding up wild bird seed, even brown rice flour mixes with sediment.

Some people still stick to premium blends, which are mostly a combination of light might extract and dextrose.  This isn't much more expensive and you will have the best results this way as it is pre-mixed with pre-measured instructions that are easy to follow.  The premium agar blend I just obtained from a Shroomery sponsor is Malt Extract Agar, which I've heard is the best to start with.  It's 25grams per 500ml, PC'ed 15psi for 30-40 minutes.  I only needed half that, so I just scaled out 12.5g for 250ml and cut the recipe in half.

The recipe is inconclusive as it leaves too many variables with which nutrients you choose to use.  It's preference which you use and each one works slightly differently.  I don't have enough experience with the new LC's yet to give solid advice on which nutrient to use, but if I was on a budget, I'd just use what I had available, which seems to be half the point; you can use a lot of things you'd already have laying around your house.

I bet if you were to post a question about the recipe in Pastywhyte's EzLC tek thread that tiger linked you, people would be happy to help you with that information.

:mushroom2:

Edited by plurfekt (03/27/18 07:04 AM)

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