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Re: Johns Hopkins DMT Entity Survey

[Re: Amanita86]

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#25029850 - 02/28/18 06:57 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

TNK said:

Define autonomous entities please.

An autonamous entity is an entity you encounter that seems to operate completely independent of your thoughts, emotions, and actions - instead acting on its own will. Basically, its saying that you experience an entity that isn’t under your “will”.

Amanita86 said:

You should post this in TPE, you might get some more indepth responses.

For the person who posted this, that means “The Psychedelic Experience” and is another subforum on the Shroomery.

TNK said:

I've done DMT about eight times but am puzzled by what exactly they want to know.

They want to know if you’ve or if you have not experienced an autonomous entity, and entity that has will other then you’re own. So even if you’ve done DMT and haven’t had an experience where an entity manifested itself and “seemed” autonomous, still reply. They need those answers to contrast the people who have had those experiences.

bodhisatta said:

I dislike the study is set up to only talk to people who have perceived entities.

Ive done dmt a boatload of times its cool but theres no entities trying to make contact.

Imagine if there was some entities using dmt to contact us only dmt is worse than dial up because no one ever seems to actually get to be shown anything by these entities

It is not setup like that - I took the study, and if you haven’t percieved entities it doesn’t discount your experiences and also wants to know what you’ve experienced otherwise.

Amanita86 said:

Good point.

I’m just saying, one could read many reports about people’s visits to Mt Rushmore and know very well where washington’s nose is on the map. But they could also get in the car and go see it personally to know exactly where it resides within this life.

I suppose if you’re crunching numbers, the reports work in your favor, on paper. But, you’ll really never know what it really is. And who better than one of the smart guys who understands all those structures within how they work and catalog? It would be dope if a terrence or dennis worked for John Hopkins.

Either way, I feel I’m derailing from the origional point so, my blessings to all involved. There’s gold in them thar hills and I’m glad this sort of thing is an ‘acceptable topic’. It’s an exciting time.

It’s a very exciting time, and Amanita86 you bring up a great principle represented well by the parabole of the man in the ivory tower with a book that contains all the information in the world. This man knows everything about a flower there is to know, yet has never experienced one for himself; the question becomes does this man learn something knew when he finally smells, tastes, experiences a flower for himself? Is there a certain knowledge that can only be gained through a subjective “taste” of said thing?

Can you ever really know honey without trying it? Can you ever really know DMT without trying it? Of course not - Sufi philosophy dictates this clearly as well as many other methods of belief - yet there is still a lot to gain and further science and mass understandings of these substances and the experiences we thusly have from them that to me, personally, are worth spending an entire life trying to uncover, discover, and figure out.

Yes, ideally - a frontier researcher would be someone who has tried these substances for themselves and can retain a subjective and objective view - only merging them for final theorems - yet that is VERY hard as to prevent subjective experience from bleeding in to objective results is tought... actually much science fails very much because of this - because the scientist is so passionate about proving his experiment right, he messes up the experiments, fudges results, subconsciously/unconsciously influences and creates his results and theses.

I agree - very, such exciting times we live in. I would love to see this discovered in a way we can physically understand in my life. I hope I can find a greater step to take on this path as I have tried to give as much as I can (not much).

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