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Re: Pit Bull Apologism, Ad Batshit-Insanity [Re: trendal]
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trendal said:
It is usually a veterinarian that actually puts the dogs down in those cases, and I don't think that they are very prone to making  wrong identifications :wink:

I don't know how it is in your country - though I suspect it's the same - but here whenever there is a death by dog it gets all the local headlines for a little while and even gets makes the national news. There is always an investigation. They are really too serious of a situation to rely on what some guy said about the dog...

So if they say that 20 out of 41 deaths occurred with a pit bull, then I'm sure that nearly all of those 20 deaths were caused by a pit bull.



You could be right, but I don't have too much faith in many of our professionals. Plenty of doctors use dated info and make a lot of mistakes/ bad decisions it seems.

And I doubt most vets are better trained :shrug: Some surely know their dog breeds very well but I imagine some don't.

Even if all 20 deaths were from pits like I said I imagine there were other factors in many if not most cases, not just the dogs killing unprovoked.

Pits seem the go to breed for asshole guys too that want big scary dogs to abuse, so I wager that's a big part of why they are viewed as the most dangerous.

The only pit I have ever known to be violent belonged to my uncle who is/was a junky and went in and out of prison. He lived with his mom too and they would fight like crazy, so I think the aggression just bled into the dog. One day she snapped and killed their other little dog so they had her put down :sad: She was a sweet dog overall though, I bet she would have done great in a better home...


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Re: Pit Bull Apologism, Ad Batshit-Insanity [Re: musiclover420]
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musiclover420 said:
The only pit I have ever known to be violent belonged to my uncle who is/was a junky and went in and out of prison. He lived with his mom too and they would fight like crazy, so I think the aggression just bled into the dog. One day she snapped and killed their other little dog so they had her put down :sad: She was a sweet dog overall though, I bet she would have done great in a better home...



:rolleyes:

Probably had more to do with the fact it just felt like killing something.  Especially if its owners weren't at home.  Dogs aren't the same, when they're left to their own devices.  Especially at night.  I don't worry about coyotes and whatnot at night.  Coyotes are too smart to get into a fight with a six-foot tall ape that can cave their skull in before bleeding to death.  Dogs are too fucking stupid to really avoid picking a fight on an impulse.

https://exigentcircumstance.wordpress.com/2012/08/09/combative-anatomy-how-to-fight-a-dog/

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Re: Pit Bull Apologism, Ad Batshit-Insanity [Re: chibiabos] * 1
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If you have have at least an ounce of brain and can process the charts you would know that this breed has big problems. Abnormal locking down with the jaw and the random explosive violence. The violence is way out of proportion to every other breed. Im gonna say let the breed die off.

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Re: Pit Bull Apologism, Ad Batshit-Insanity [Re: chibiabos]
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chibiabos said:
Dog racism!





this is another thing that makes pitbullsbso dangerous is the dont respond to pain stimuli and they dont stop attacking when the other dog submits. those ppl were obv fucking retarded tho n obv dont no how to control dogs to begin with. :facepalm: spray them with a hose or toss a fucking bag over em or summin goddamn way to injure them more hitting em with a shovel and nunchucks what the fucking shit u guys they need their dogs taken away only matter of time before some little kids skull is getting chewed on like a vhew toy  :facepalm:

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Re: Pit Bull Apologism, Ad Batshit-Insanity [Re: CHeifM4sterDiezL]
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Nah.  They just need to say that their dog is young and curious and that it's the kid's fault for not educating themself properly on dog behavior, as if it was their job to rehabilitate vicious dogs.  Sort of like that guy whose fake service dog attacked a paraplegic woman, and then blamed the paraplegic woman for scaring his dog with her wheelchair.

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Re: Pit Bull Apologism, Ad Batshit-Insanity [Re: chibiabos]
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Has anyone questioned or has it been established that the defensive wounds or the fatal wounds came from her dogs? It's very possible a stray dog (or dogs) could have killed her and her own dogs chased it/them off and hung around her body afterwards. I mean the article is quick to point to her dogs in particular with lines like "Agnew said the evidence found at the scene, including the defensive wounds, clearly showed that the dogs were responsible for Stephens' death.". but did they actually match up the wounds to her dogs?

I'm not a "Pit Bull apologist" or whatever the fuck :rofl: just curious.


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Re: Pit Bull Apologism, Ad Batshit-Insanity [Re: Shroomslip] * 1
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"They'd kill you with kisses" well they certainly did!

dogs do snap and they act on natural mechanisms just like how humans snap too, when a dog is bred for being aggressive and taking down large animals like bulls and bears the apple doesn't fall far from the tree.

I think it could of been over dominance issues, say the two dogs were fighting for dominance or one dog got sick of being stepped all over and they had a scrap and then the girl tried to stop it but the dogs got carried away cause it's natural.

my dogs are pussys like 99% of the time, big smooches haha but one time the older one was sick and tired of been pushed around, they snapped and went at it. I could not stop em they were a bloody mess!

Dont mess with a pack mentality

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Re: Pit Bull Apologism, Ad Batshit-Insanity [Re: MushMaggot]
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Rules about dogs:

- If you're sleeping, they're sleeping
- If you're chilling, they're chilling
- If you're nervous, they're nervous
- If you're a psycho yelling at the ref on TV... You get it

Your animal lives according to your vibes.


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Re: Pit Bull Apologism, Ad Batshit-Insanity [Re: chibiabos]
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Pit-Bull Apologism.... :facepalm:


What a made up bull shit term.  I've encountered many pit-bulls in my day, never had a problem.

It's not their fault mostly lowest of low garbage people want to own them and than treat them like shit.


You're feeding into fear mongering crap.


There is a guy in New York who rehabilitates abused/tortured/abandonded pit bulls and he has never had a bad encounter.  He documents it all and they go from being terrified to realizing there is someone who is willing to love them and protect them.


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Re: Pit Bull Apologism, Ad Batshit-Insanity [Re: Herbologist]
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I don't like pitbulls. They're the scum of the dog world and their owners usually aren't much better. I have met some nice pits and nice pit owners, but not many. I have also met some nice pitbulls that snap and act sketchy for no reason. They're like a status symbol for thug type people who worship lil' jon and lil' wayne. I don't see any reason to risk having a pitbull when you could get a smart, well mannered and well bred breed. Something that isn't made to fight.

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Re: Pit Bull Apologism, Ad Batshit-Insanity [Re: Lophosaurus]
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You literally just gave the reason why there are so many pit-bull problems....


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their owners usually aren't much better




Too many scum bags own them and want to make them intimidating.  ITS THE OWNERS.


"a smart well mannered breed"


Pit-bulls are very smart and all I've encountered are well mannered and very happy.


Do you know how many times a dog is identified as a pit-bull and it isn't even really a pit-bull at all?  Many dogs look like them.


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Re: Pit Bull Apologism, Ad Batshit-Insanity [Re: chibiabos]
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There's such a strong thread of negativity through this place. Could we all just stop for a minute and think about the flavour?:heart:

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Re: Pit Bull Apologism, Ad Batshit-Insanity [Re: Love_spirit]
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Yeah, I've known really well behaved and nice pitbulls and I've seen a few of those dogs turn for no reason. The owners had breeding papers so I'm pretty sure they were legit.

I would never get a pit, or a doberman. Probably wouldn't get a Rottweiler either. Rotts are cool, but I wouldn't trust them around other people.

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Re: Pit Bull Apologism, Ad Batshit-Insanity [Re: Lophosaurus]
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I've had dobermans for years.  Never a problem.

You're scared of certain breeds for no reason.

Also, fuck breeders.  I don't care what their shitty papers say.  They hold a huge blame for over populated humane societies/shelters.


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Re: Pit Bull Apologism, Ad Batshit-Insanity [Re: Herbologist]
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I agree about breeders.

I don't like those dogs from my experiences, not because of newspaper hype or something. I go to multiple houses everyday and meet all kinds of dogs and pets. Dobermans are cool to their owners, but the ones that I have met did not want anyone else around. Same with Rotts, just not as extreme, I think.

And it's not about being scared. It is risk managment

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Re: Pit Bull Apologism, Ad Batshit-Insanity [Re: Lophosaurus]
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If it's risk management than the animals owners and breeders are still to blame.


There are WAY too many people breeding pit-bulls and WAY too much human filth owning these pit-bulls.  If this wasn't going on, you wouldn't see or hear about problems nearly as much.


Animals adapt and react to their environment.  Regardless, of what they are.


A child growing up in a shitty home with shitty parents has a good chance of growing up to being a shitty person.


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Re: Pit Bull Apologism, Ad Batshit-Insanity [Re: Love_spirit]
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Love_spirit said:
There's such a strong thread of negativity through this place. Could we all just stop for a minute and think about the flavour?:heart:



You mean the flavor of the girl's leg?

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