bodhisatta said:

The gun that ended it was a rifle so chances are the guy didn't bring it in the church with him and needed to retrieve it.

Now If everyone in the church besides the children had a mandatory sidearm the shooter would have stayed home.

Not to many people try mass shootings at places full of armed people.
I would say most mass shootings are specifically chosen because they're fish in a barrel circumstances.

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koods said:

qman said:

koods said:

Shroomslip said:

He had body armor and just murdered 26 people (attempted to kill a lot more than that) you really think he was just gonna give up and stop? I have never once said it would prevent shootings. I think it's kind of idiotic to think it will, these people already know there's a good chance they'll die and they do it anyways, so more armed people isn't really going to prevent much of anything. The point is having the ability to stop them and prevent further killings when they start shooting.

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Just stop with this ridiculous fantasy you people have. The problem isn't that you don't have enough guns, it that you have too many. And I'm using you because people like you are the problem and it's about time we stop being politically correct about it.

If this stupid good guy theory didn't work in a church in Texas, where you are allow to carry, it's a failure. If you say it's a success because it could have been worse you have a perverted idea of success. Its a delusion.

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"The problem isn't that you don't have enough guns, it that you have too many"

How would having less guns avoided this shooting?

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Really? Having exactly one fewer gun would have completely prevented this shooting.

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Really, destroying my gun on Saturday would have prevented this shooting on Sunday?

koods said:

bodhisatta said:

The gun that ended it was a rifle so chances are the guy didn't bring it in the church with him and needed to retrieve it.

Now If everyone in the church besides the children had a mandatory sidearm the shooter would have stayed home.

Not to many people try mass shootings at places full of armed people.
I would say most mass shootings are specifically chosen because they're fish in a barrel circumstances.

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Mandatory fire arm? So much for freedom. I assume so you are being facetious,

We live in a country with more guns than people. If the good guy theory hasn't worked at this point, it never will.

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qman said:

koods said:

bodhisatta said:

The gun that ended it was a rifle so chances are the guy didn't bring it in the church with him and needed to retrieve it.

Now If everyone in the church besides the children had a mandatory sidearm the shooter would have stayed home.

Not to many people try mass shootings at places full of armed people.
I would say most mass shootings are specifically chosen because they're fish in a barrel circumstances.

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Mandatory fire arm? So much for freedom. I assume so you are being facetious,

We live in a country with more guns than people. If the good guy theory hasn't worked at this point, it never will.

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Who's to say gun ownership for self defense hasn't worked? It does work, just because there are instances were it doesn't work doesn't mean it's not an effective form of self defense.

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twighead said:

I've played enough overwatch to be highly effective in such a situation thank you!

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Sheekle said:

151,600 people die each day on average, and for some reason the measly 20-30 people who die in occasional attacks are talking about for weeks after as millions upon millions of others die in the background without anyone caring

like really people whats the point of caring extra special amounts for some random texan christians? they were prolly mostly a-holes anyway

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koods said:

Sheekle said:

151,600 people die each day on average, and for some reason the measly 20-30 people who die in occasional attacks are talking about for weeks after as millions upon millions of others die in the background without anyone caring

like really people whats the point of caring extra special amounts for some random texan christians? they were prolly mostly a-holes anyway

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6,000 people die in the US every day, not 151,000.

firearms are the NUMBER ONE cause of death for people under the age of 24. You think that is insignificant? The deaths of dozens of young people are far more significant than the thousands of old people who die because their time is up. Everyone dies eventually. It's the preventable deaths that need to be addressed.

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This was Saturday.

http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2017/11/05/les-robbery-retired-nypd-officer/

Quote:

NEW YORK (CBSNewYork) — A retired NYPD officer said he had his gun stolen when he tried to intervene during an attempted robbery on the Lower East Side this weekend.

Police were called around 5 a.m. Saturday to 130 Eldridge St. for a report of an attempted robbery. At the scene, they found the retired officer on the ground with cuts to his face and complaining about pain to his body, police said.

Police learned the retired officer was at the Eldridge Street address when he heard about a possible robbery outside. He identified himself as an officer and got into a fight with one of the suspects, police said.

The retired officer was punched in the face and body during the struggle, police said. The retired officer’s gun fell out of its holster, and the suspect picked it up and took it, police said.

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Good guy eh?
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koods said:

Shroomslip said:

He had body armor and just murdered 26 people (attempted to kill a lot more than that) you really think he was just gonna give up and stop? I have never once said it would prevent shootings. I think it's kind of idiotic to think it will, these people already know there's a good chance they'll die and they do it anyways, so more armed people isn't really going to prevent much of anything. The point is having the ability to stop them and prevent further killings when they start shooting.

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Just stop with this ridiculous fantasy you people have. The problem isn't that you don't have enough guns, it that you have too many. And I'm using you because people like you are the problem and it's about time we stop being politically correct about it.

If this stupid good guy theory didn't work in a church in Texas, where you are allow to carry, it's a failure. If you say it's a success because it could have been worse you have a perverted idea of success. Its a delusion.

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