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Re: Opinions on Osho? [Re: Jaegar]
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Jaegar said:
Twin Flame saga update? Is the magic still there?


The illusion is real.



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Re: Opinions on Osho? [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
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OrgoneConclusion said:
Just because you were unable to master bilocation doesn't mean that others failed as well. :ohwell:

Now go trim your tonals.


Just because you never trimmed your tonals, doesn't mean you failed.  Now go, and bicycle in your lane, catch the wind of Las Vegas and enjoy that heat and the smell of fucking death with all the satanists who flock there.  Enjoy it.



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Re: Opinions on Osho? [Re: LunarEclipse]
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Oooh that smell.



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Re: Opinions on Osho? [Re: MarkostheGnostic]
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MarkostheGnostic said:
Glitchedz said:
Osho is a guru that gets mentioned semi-frequently around here, I am wondering what people's opinions of him is?


His name was Bhagwan Shree Rajneesh, a psychopathic cult leader (see https://www.amazon.com/Golden-Guru-Strange-Journey-Rajneesh/dp/0828906300/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1502398828&sr=8-1&keywords=the+golden+guru%2C+rajneesh) whose books were re-marketed with another name he had used at another time - Osho - after the name Rajneesh became associated with depravity, excess, and damage to his young and gullible acolytes.

Rajneesh held pro-Hitler sentiments based on his Aryan (Indian) heritage. He was a serial sex offender, for which there is ample testimony. He was accused of several high level crimes including the ordering of murder and of a biological attack on a neighboring town. The Wiki article below says that while these charges were initially greeted with skepticism, but eventuated confirmed. He amassed a fortune, including something like 64 Rolls Royce automobiles, and he sought to purchase and control a town in Wasco County, Oregon which was only briefly incorporated as a township, and populated by 1000 of his commune/cult members, before he was ousted from the United States. He died at age 58. Good riddance. I have known at least one seriously indoctrinated disciple who took a cult name from Rajneesh.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rajneesh


Don't you ever get tired of repeating yourself? I know I have. :bye:

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Re: Opinions on Osho? [Re: Middleman]
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Middleman said:
MarkostheGnostic said:
Glitchedz said:
Osho is a guru that gets mentioned semi-frequently around here, I am wondering what people's opinions of him is?


His name was Bhagwan Shree Rajneesh, a psychopathic cult leader (see [url=https://www.amazon.com/Golden-Guru-Strange-Journey-Rajneesh/dp/0828906300/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1502398828&sr=8-1&keywords=the golden guru, rajneesh)&ie=UTF8&linkCode=ll1&ie=UTF8&linkCode=ll1]https://www.amazon.com/Golden-Guru-Strange-Journey-Rajneesh/dp/0828906300/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1502398828&sr=8-1&keywords=the golden guru, rajneesh)[/url] whose books were re-marketed with another name he had used at another time - Osho - after the name Rajneesh became associated with depravity, excess, and damage to his young and gullible acolytes.

Rajneesh held pro-Hitler sentiments based on his Aryan (Indian) heritage. He was a serial sex offender, for which there is ample testimony. He was accused of several high level crimes including the ordering of murder and of a biological attack on a neighboring town. The Wiki article below says that while these charges were initially greeted with skepticism, but eventuated confirmed. He amassed a fortune, including something like 64 Rolls Royce automobiles, and he sought to purchase and control a town in Wasco County, Oregon which was only briefly incorporated as a township, and populated by 1000 of his commune/cult members, before he was ousted from the United States. He died at age 58. Good riddance. I have known at least one seriously indoctrinated disciple who took a cult name from Rajneesh.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rajneesh


Don't you ever get tired of repeating yourself? I know I have. :bye:


How did you becone a mod?  It's a joke.  Bye?  tired of repeating yourself?  Markos is the man you are a scam.  Fuck me.


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Re: Opinions on Osho? [Re: LunarEclipse]
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LunarEclipse said:
Middleman said:
MarkostheGnostic said:
Glitchedz said:
Osho is a guru that gets mentioned semi-frequently around here, I am wondering what people's opinions of him is?


His name was Bhagwan Shree Rajneesh, a psychopathic cult leader (see [url=https://www.amazon.com/Golden-Guru-Strange-Journey-Rajneesh/dp/0828906300/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1502398828&sr=8-1&keywords=the golden guru, rajneesh)&ie=UTF8&linkCode=ll1&ie=UTF8&linkCode=ll1]https://www.amazon.com/Golden-Guru-Strange-Journey-Rajneesh/dp/0828906300/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1502398828&sr=8-1&keywords=the golden guru, rajneesh)[/url] whose books were re-marketed with another name he had used at another time - Osho - after the name Rajneesh became associated with depravity, excess, and damage to his young and gullible acolytes.

Rajneesh held pro-Hitler sentiments based on his Aryan (Indian) heritage. He was a serial sex offender, for which there is ample testimony. He was accused of several high level crimes including the ordering of murder and of a biological attack on a neighboring town. The Wiki article below says that while these charges were initially greeted with skepticism, but eventuated confirmed. He amassed a fortune, including something like 64 Rolls Royce automobiles, and he sought to purchase and control a town in Wasco County, Oregon which was only briefly incorporated as a township, and populated by 1000 of his commune/cult members, before he was ousted from the United States. He died at age 58. Good riddance. I have known at least one seriously indoctrinated disciple who took a cult name from Rajneesh.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rajneesh


Don't you ever get tired of repeating yourself? I know I have. :bye:


How did you becone a mod?  It's a joke.  Bye?  tired of repeating yourself?  Markos is the man you are a scam.  Fuck me.


Really Middlescam man.  How did you become the mod?  Fucking joke tired of your jokester bullshit.  Scam.  Fucking scam.  Never a contribution.  Fucking scam.


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Re: Opinions on Osho? [Re: Middleman]
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Good find MM.

Boom bada boom Osho

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Re: Opinions on Osho? [Re: Middleman] * 1
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It's like a school here. Some newcomers miss certain lessons. Having been an educator I can say with confidence that repetition becomes necessary. Students and grad assistants learn to take the same lessons again in stride. Then there are variously motivated unhappy or disenfranchised non-students who attempt to insult others on these forums. As for me, I'm of the opinion that some teachings bear repeating. Manners is one of those teachings. I recommend that people who do not want to read my words simply put me on their personal Ignore list. I can accept and always use constructive criticism but non-constructive criticisms are boring, banal, and generally useless. :shrug:


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Edited by MarkostheGnostic (08/12/17 11:30 AM)

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Re: Opinions on Osho? [Re: MarkostheGnostic]
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Osho sounds like a shady character but I've seen multiple people I respect praise his teachings.


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Re: Opinions on Osho? [Re: Peyote Road] * 1
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Peyote Road said:
Osho sounds like a shady character but I've seen multiple people I respect praise his teachings.


Perhaps they were simply deceived like the rest of his acolytes and they fail to taste the massive nefarious shit in which the chocolate chips of wisdom are embedded. :shrug:



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Re: Opinions on Osho? [Re: MarkostheGnostic]
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It's one very important thing - the heart and / or the energy behind anything is very significant.

One may believe one is doing good -- indeed, by definition, just about, every single human ever to exist had believed this..  But if the energy is bad, the result will be too.

For instance, if someone is kind, strong and peaceful -- they will have beneficial effect.

The opposite is true as well..  So this is basically the case here.


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Re: Opinions on Osho? [Re: MarkostheGnostic]
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MarkostheGnostic said:
Peyote Road said:
Osho sounds like a shady character but I've seen multiple people I respect praise his teachings.


Perhaps they were simply deceived like the rest of his acolytes and they fail to taste the massive nefarious shit in which the chocolate chips of wisdom are embedded. :shrug:




perhaps but interesting I just came across another example of his teachings being referenced positively on http://biologyofkundalini.com which I consider a very good website.


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Re: Opinions on Osho? [Re: Peyote Road]
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I have passed through my phase of Kundalini Yoga theory and practice. I took a crash course with the 3HO Kundalini Yoga ashram in Princeton, NJ in 1975, read/visited Sri Chimney, read Gopi Krishna's books, and familiarized myself with the conceptual differences between the Kundalini-Shakti and the gTummo Inner Fire in Tantric Buddhism. Similarly, I have seen the parallels with the Kabbalistic Tree's 3 pillars as corresponding to the 3 main nadis, and written about Jacob's dream in the Old Testament where his 'stairway to Heaven' at a place called Luz (which means light, almond, and coccyx) refers symbolically to the amygdala ['almond'] in the brain, the coccyx where the Kundalini enters, and the light that results from the ascent. The angels ascending and descending is the current and Heaven is an experience of the Brain center illuminated. Jacob awakens and names Luz Bethel - House of God.

BUT...I do not need to read information that I already Know from a man who admired Adolph Hitler. I want nothing to do with unscrupulous people who hold out gems. I invited a few people to my home once and they apparently used the girl as a lure who introduced her friends, who I sensed had some ulterior motive for bringing me into some unknown shit. One guy was terribly accident-prone, had broken almost all his bones. Didn't sit down for their 3 hour visit. The other guy kept calling me to take me to a "Masonic" meeting. I am not a Freemason, and I didn't request initiation. Then he called to say he was sitting on 100 vials of "liquid" (presumably LSD), but he couldn't even lay me onto a single drop (not a vial). This was HIS gems, just as knowledge was for Osho. Well, the liquid-guy was either (1) lying, (2) a busted guy who needed to entrap others like me, (3) law enforcement himself, (4) a big-time drug dealer, (5) something more sinister trying to get me to get in a car with his 'Masonic' buddies for God knows what.

I trust my intuition. I was a Miami-Dade County Public School 'TRUST Specialist' for 27 years. I trust that anyone who speaks positively about anything about Hitler is NOT to be trusted.


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Edited by MarkostheGnostic (08/15/17 03:16 PM)

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Re: Opinions on Osho? [Re: MarkostheGnostic]
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I'm not trying to defend Osho's character, I'm just commenting on how influential he seems to have been even outside of his cult following.

I remember being surprised one time listening to a Tony Parsons talk on youtube where Tony mentioned Osho and said something to effect of "Dear Osho, bless his heart". Tony Parsons lived at the Osho commune for 3 years. Anyway, like I said that's just one example of several places I've heard Osho mentioned in a positive light. That's rather unusual for someone whose followers poisoned a town.


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Re: Opinions on Osho? [Re: Peyote Road]
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I am not without error. I took Transcendental Meditation, then entered into teacher-training, and then I discovered the writings of someone who had risen in the TM® ranks only to realize that there was a metaphysical deception occurring that was simply not apparent to anyone not versed in Sanskrit, or unawares of the material in The Garland of Letters by Sir Arthur Avalon AKA John Woodruff (the scholar who wrote The Serpent Power and Shakti and Shakta), which describes 'entities' (not God) which are invited to indwell the lotus of the heart, and which each new practitioner parrots before receiving their mantra. The mantras, which were said to be personalized were not. They were assigned by the age of the new practitioner. I have the list. The Beatles came to realize the nefarious aspect of Maharishi Mahesh Yogi early on. They wrote a song about him but changed the name from Maharishi to Sexy Sadie for obvious legal reasons. Listen to the words and you'll see it's about all of them being seduced by the Maharishi. I wish more information had been available to me in 1975.

Ken Wilber became enamored of the man Franklin Albert Jones who began his self-styled guru trip as Bubba Free John, and then took more and more exalted names: "Da Free John, Da Love-Ananda, Da Kalki, Da Avadhoota and Da Avabhasa, among others. From 1991 until his death, he was known as Adi Da Love-Ananda Samraj or Adi Da." - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adi_Da Da Kalki would suggest that he was the next avatar of God as Hindu scriptures prophesy. Adi is both a Hindu term for the Causeless Cause and a Buddhist term, the Adi-Buddha referring to Primordial Reality. Wilber eventually saw the light and abandoned his loyalty to this lifelong pretender.

I don't feel as dumb for my momentary loss of reason if a bright guy like Ken Wilber also got seduced by another human being with a gift for gab. Neither Maharishi nor Bubba were as sinister or as destructive to others as Osho seems to have been. Parsons probably benefitted from the love-bombing and free sex that abounded at the Rajneesh ashram. No surprise that he'd speak well of the man whose party it was. :shrug:


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Re: Opinions on Osho? [Re: MarkostheGnostic]
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My first contact with Osho was a book about zen but his misogyny and narcissism put me off. Puzzled by his success, I have read a little about his life and I see him as a mediocre business man who marketed spirituality. I see no philosophical  value here other then repeating some things others have said before him. I'm still puzzled by his success...

He transformed himself in a marketing ploy and now rich/upper middle-class customers are targeted by the heirs of his company. If you want a taste of being robbed and a feel of fascism, visit his meditation center in India. What's worse is that they use his teachings as unquestionable and undeniable rules so they can squeeze another penny from you.

http://www.osho.com/


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Re: Opinions on Osho? [Re: Raptoralic]
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No thanks. I saw what Rajneesh's influence did to an already personality-disordered late girlfriend of m BFF. I read The Golden Guru. I remember the news from Oregon. I don't need to be convinced of the man's abject sociopathy.The ONLY exception I'll make is this 5:17 video. Clearly, Rajneesh was not a pious man.

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x26zues


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