California said:

No Tipping Trend Spreads as Two More Top Portland Restaurants Eliminate Gratuity
Restaurants will display "Gratuity-Free" logo.

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California said:

Well you aren't a complete moron, and you don't seem to be lazy. I'd guess you actually earned your tips.

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I've only not tipped at restaurants a couple of times because of shitty food and service, but I do usually tip.

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Crystal G said:

California said:

Well you aren't a complete moron, and you don't seem to be lazy. I'd guess you actually earned your tips.  Believe it or not, though, there are shit wait staff out there who don't deserve an automatic tip, because that undermines the system(my system at least), of tips being based on good service.
I've only not tipped at restaurants a couple of times because of shitty food and service, but I do usually tip.

I tip the gas station dude(here in Oregon it is illegal to pump your own fuel) because he always runs to my car when it is busy and hot out(or raining) because he knows I am going to tip because he makes an effort, and it works for both of us because I get fueled-up first and have less of a wait than others, and he profits.  That's how my system works.

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I believe it, especially in more rural areas where people work at a slower pace. I haven't seen many lazy wait staff in coastal cities or metropolitan urban cities.

I've noticed though, when I've gone to more rural areas like Arizona or New Mexico, the customer service is a lot slower. People take all the time in the world, and they are more casual when they speak, like "Whaddya want?" That shit would never fly on the east coast.

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Must depend on the area I guess. I work in a small rural suburb in IL (I believe it just broke 6k people recently) for a gourmet meat market and my boss would fucking filet me if I addressed a customer like that, much less 'took all the time in the world' to get their orders. Hell, I get reprimanded fairly often if I'm free and theres a customer who hasn't been helped yet (regardless of whether or not they're still staring at the cases trying to figure out wtf they want in the first place or if they had literally just walked up to the case) Since I started working at 13 I don't believe I've ever had a job where I didn't refer to any customers I had to deal with in any capacity as 'sir' or 'ma'am'

vandago said:

After taxes I made about 20 bucks on an 8 hour shift tonight.

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vandago said:

To make matters worse I just got done with ANOTHER cab ride.  This was through my insurance.

I am on house arrest so I have allotted times I can leave the house.  This guy gets here a half hour early.  I can't go outside.

I finally hit the 3 o clock mark and go out there......he says he has to go pick up another client.

We drive 10 minutes out of the way ( he could've gotten her instead of picking me up early ) and tells me we are going to have to drop her off FIRST then me and then when I am done go wait for her, tells me to call my doctor and tell them I will be LATE!!!!


I call the insurance company to calmly complain, I can't be late to this doctor I only see them once a month.

He actually hands the woman in the back seat my information while we were arguing about him being early, and asks her to read what it says, like a child arguing in front of his parents......so now this woman knows my medical info, address, where I am going.

She starts screaming at me about what a piece of shit white trash scum bag I am, with no job living off the government, and I'm a liberal piece of trash.  This lady continues to insult me for a half an hour while the cab driver gets lost looking for her appointment.

Finally his dispatch calls him and says to drop her off at a GAS STATION PARKING LOT!!!! He drops her off in the middle of no where, then drives me to my appointment a half an hour late, as they are locking the doors.

I missed my appointment and he just drove me home.


I just sat in that cab for 2 goddamn hours and didn't even get to see my doctor, and have to reschedule, and now explain this to my house arrest officer.


Holy shit I am having a bad day.

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Repertoire89 said:

vandago said:

After taxes I made about 20 bucks on an 8 hour shift tonight.

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Shit man, that's fucking bullshit.
I'm assuming you're including the cab ride or whatever.

Know the feeling though, I'm stuck with no car in an area where you need a car to do anything.
Fucking bullshit, just work a shit job, go home and bide my time.
Probably should have just stayed homeless.

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vandago said:

I always tip even if it's shitty service,

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California said:

vandago said:

I always tip even if it's shitty service,

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You fucking monster.  Please stop enabling and encouraging shitty service.

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vandago said:

Would you file a lawsuit over something like this?  I have the complaint noted, and while on the phone with the insurance company the woman in the backseat is screaming and swearing at me.  He ended up dropping her off at a gas station and just taking me back to my house.

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vandago said:

It's not enabling shitty service.

They realize "fuck I should've served them better, imagine how much better they would've tipped?"

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Repertoire89 said:

vandago said:

Would you file a lawsuit over something like this?  I have the complaint noted, and while on the phone with the insurance company the woman in the backseat is screaming and swearing at me.  He ended up dropping her off at a gas station and just taking me back to my house.

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Yeah, I would most certainly sue. Even considering the inconvenience of hiring a lawyer and going to court.

Both of those people should be in a cage, you might not be able to arrange that, but you can at least be compensated for the situation and hopefully the cab driver will at least lose his job.

Granted it would be worth discussing with a lawyer what your odds of coming out ahead are, its not worth going to court if the odds aren't in your favor of winning.

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Repertoire89 said:

vandago said:

It's not enabling shitty service.

They realize "fuck I should've served them better, imagine how much better they would've tipped?"

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Nah, I agree with California.

If they even think about it, its probably more like "hah, fuck that guy, he tipped me anyways."


Killing with kindness just makes you a sucker.
Most people don't give a shit.

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vandago said:

So I was talking about this to my insurance company.  They were saying not only with their policies is the driver only allowed to pick up one person at a time, but him handing her my paperwork with my address, phone number, doctors name, etc, was highly illegal and that I could file a lawsuit against the company for the way he behaved, and for picking her up, then giving her my info, then making me miss an appointment I only go to once a month.......which I really needed to go to.

Would you file a lawsuit over something like this?  I have the complaint noted, and while on the phone with the insurance company the woman in the backseat is screaming and swearing at me.  He ended up dropping her off at a gas station and just taking me back to my house.

I kept my composure the entire time somehow, but I was not a happy camper after all that.

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vandago said:

Servers aren't robots, they are people.  Unless they are acting like a piece of shit across the board, there's probably a reason for your bad service, and they aren't making shit if they don't get tips.  I always was taught to make people smile, and what better way to do so than when they are frowning?  It's just a few bucks.

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Repertoire89 said:

Well I'm glad you didn't flip out, that could have hurt your case.

Did their voices carry over into the phone call? Was that call recorded?
It would be very convenient if so, and there is good money in lawsuits.

Normally I'm not in favor of suing, but if someones being a serious asshole and their asshole needs a pounding

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Repertoire89 said:

Normally I'm not in favor of suing, but if someones being a serious asshole and their asshole needs a pounding

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That gif in combination with that sentence

Crystal G said:

Seriously, I don't understand people who are bad tippers, especially if they are only eating by themselves. If your meal is $12, the difference between a 15% tip and a 30% tip is only like $1.50. It's literally a dollar or two dollars of a difference. That's change I would be giving to a homeless person for no work.

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vandago said:

Some people are in a lot of pain inside, or they have a mental syndrome they can't really control, or you may have misread them.

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