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I'm about to pay 60 bucks for a cab, and I am not happy about it.
    #23640600 - 09/13/16 04:35 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Do you even tip for a 60 dollar one way cab ride?

Like is this going to be a 70 dollar ride?

This is going to be the first and hopefully the last time I have to do this, but I get off house arrest in 6 days and can't be late now, I have made it so far.....but my work changed my schedule and fucked my ride situation up.


Getting a car the day I get off house arrest.

The struggle is real.


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Re: I'm about to pay 60 bucks for a cab, and I am not happy about it. [Re: vandago]
    #23640675 - 09/13/16 05:47 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Uber is the way to go


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Re: I'm about to pay 60 bucks for a cab, and I am not happy about it. [Re: vandago] * 1
    #23640681 - 09/13/16 05:51 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

I had to pay over 100 for a cab ride a couple of times. I never bothered to tip for them. Don't care if I was supposed to or not. He didn't have to do anything but drive me to my destination and paying that much for a simple ride is already pretty absurd.


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Re: I'm about to pay 60 bucks for a cab, and I am not happy about it. [Re: vandago] * 1
    #23640688 - 09/13/16 05:58 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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vandago said:
Do you even tip for a 60 dollar one way cab ride?





Well, in the time it's taken him to drive you 60 dollars worth of miles, he could've brought six people on 10 dollar rides and gotten some tips out of it, and wouldn't have to wonder for 60 dollars worth of miles whether the passenger would tip well or at all, and could have had six shorter 10 dollar rides where he won't be depending on one single tip.


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Re: I'm about to pay 60 bucks for a cab, and I am not happy about it. [Re: LobsterSauce]
    #23640733 - 09/13/16 06:41 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Truth.


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Re: I'm about to pay 60 bucks for a cab, and I am not happy about it. [Re: LobsterSauce]
    #23640762 - 09/13/16 07:06 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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LobsterSauce said:
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vandago said:
Do you even tip for a 60 dollar one way cab ride?





Well, in the time it's taken him to drive you 60 dollars worth of miles, he could've brought six people on 10 dollar rides and gotten some tips out of it, and wouldn't have to wonder for 60 dollars worth of miles whether the passenger would tip well or at all, and could have had six shorter 10 dollar rides where he won't be depending on one single tip.





And I'm sure 6 people would have called him within the time frame of a 30 minute drive at 730 am.  This isn't a big city I live in BFE, no one uses cabs out here.

There's not even uber out here, of lyft or any of that shit.


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Re: I'm about to pay 60 bucks for a cab, and I am not happy about it. [Re: vandago]
    #23640770 - 09/13/16 07:10 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Only time I didn't tip during a cab ride was when I was in a cab, and the ticker said $50. Dude was trying to charge us $80 and arguing about it (in a thick foreign accent, like he was haggling with us...). Eventually gave him 80, took a picture of the ticker and reported it to the company which issued a refund for the whole ride. Dude was bullshitting us hard.


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Re: I'm about to pay 60 bucks for a cab, and I am not happy about it. [Re: PatrickKn]
    #23640775 - 09/13/16 07:13 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

This guy bs'es me too. He gets so much business kicked down from me from the hotel I work at and he still charged me 2 bucks a mile, and their normal right is 1.50.

After taxes I made about 20 bucks on an 8 hour shift tonight.

I need a car so bad.  Life is absolutely beating the living fuck out of me so bad.


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Re: I'm about to pay 60 bucks for a cab, and I am not happy about it. [Re: vandago]
    #23640822 - 09/13/16 07:53 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

I only have two words. Fake Taxi.


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Re: I'm about to pay 60 bucks for a cab, and I am not happy about it. [Re: vandago] * 2
    #23640840 - 09/13/16 08:02 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Lost in all this is your drive to put your past behind you. Pretty inspiring op...above and beyond. If you lived around Baltimore and were looking for a job....I'd hire you in  a minute.


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Re: I'm about to pay 60 bucks for a cab, and I am not happy about it. [Re: Thayendanegea]
    #23640912 - 09/13/16 08:42 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

This thread reminds me that I have taken a cab maybe twice in my life...


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Re: I'm about to pay 60 bucks for a cab, and I am not happy about it. [Re: Patlal]
    #23640914 - 09/13/16 08:42 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Drive n dash


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Re: I'm about to pay 60 bucks for a cab, and I am not happy about it. [Re: vandago]
    #23640967 - 09/13/16 09:09 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Once I paid $80 in Los Angeles to go like 9 miles. It was rush hour and anybody who knows LA will tell you that you're almost better off fucking walking than getting into a car during rush hour.

That meter just kept going and going.

Thankfully it was a business expense and the company that I worked for at the time footed the bill.


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Re: I'm about to pay 60 bucks for a cab, and I am not happy about it. [Re: Niffla] * 4
    #23641003 - 09/13/16 09:21 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

The trick is to give the taxi driver an address 10 blocks further than you plan on going

when you make it to your true destination you tuck-and-roll out of the vehicle into safety

make sure you present the middle finger as you're tumbling away from the over priced taxi


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Re: I'm about to pay 60 bucks for a cab, and I am not happy about it. [Re: plasma]
    #23641034 - 09/13/16 09:31 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Just don't get run over by the cab when you bail


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Re: I'm about to pay 60 bucks for a cab, and I am not happy about it. [Re: vandago]
    #23641213 - 09/13/16 10:50 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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vandago said:
Do you even tip for a 60 dollar one way cab ride?

Like is this going to be a 70 dollar ride?

This is going to be the first and hopefully the last time I have to do this, but I get off house arrest in 6 days and can't be late now, I have made it so far.....but my work changed my schedule and fucked my ride situation up.


Getting a car the day I get off house arrest.

The struggle is real.





when i left jail, i had a $130 cab ride, as the nearest town was ~45 miles away.  i gave her a tip.  she gave it back to me;  said i'd been through enough and would need every dollar i had.


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Re: I'm about to pay 60 bucks for a cab, and I am not happy about it. [Re: demiu5]
    #23641289 - 09/13/16 11:22 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Good for you op about putting shit behind you, in that aspecr you remind me of my younger brother. Good vibes going your way :vibin:


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Re: I'm about to pay 60 bucks for a cab, and I am not happy about it. [Re: vandago]
    #23641442 - 09/13/16 12:32 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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vandago said:
This guy bs'es me too. He gets so much business kicked down from me from the hotel I work at and he still charged me 2 bucks a mile, and their normal right is 1.50.

After taxes I made about 20 bucks on an 8 hour shift tonight.

I need a car so bad.  Life is absolutely beating the living fuck out of me so bad.





Stay positive man. You're so close!!! You got this. If I were you, I'd just say fuck it and give that last remaining 20 to the cab driver. I promise you will receive that gift back in some form. 

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Re: I'm about to pay 60 bucks for a cab, and I am not happy about it. [Re: vandago]
    #23641563 - 09/13/16 01:11 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

This thread reminds me of why Uber and Lyft were invented and how awesome they are.

Fuck oldschool taxis. They're disgusting, awful, corrupt, and overpriced as fuck.


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Re: I'm about to pay 60 bucks for a cab, and I am not happy about it. [Re: Thayendanegea] * 1
    #23641895 - 09/13/16 03:08 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Thayendanegea said:
Lost in all this is your drive to put your past behind you. Pretty inspiring op...above and beyond. If you lived around Baltimore and were looking for a job....I'd hire you in  a minute.





I have kept this job for a 14 months now some days actually paying just to work, and losing money on it.

Sometimes you gotta bite the bullet and do what you have to do. I refuse to go back to unemployed without good cause.


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Re: I'm about to pay 60 bucks for a cab, and I am not happy about it. [Re: vandago]
    #23641906 - 09/13/16 03:11 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

When you get your car Vandago, you should become an Inner driver to fill the hole in your city and stock it to the cab driver.


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Re: I'm about to pay 60 bucks for a cab, and I am not happy about it. [Re: PatrickKn]
    #23641936 - 09/13/16 03:20 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

To make matters worse I just got done with ANOTHER cab ride.  This was through my insurance.

I am on house arrest so I have allotted times I can leave the house.  This guy gets here a half hour early.  I can't go outside.

I finally hit the 3 o clock mark and go out there......he says he has to go pick up another client.

We drive 10 minutes out of the way ( he could've gotten her instead of picking me up early ) and tells me we are going to have to drop her off FIRST then me and then when I am done go wait for her, tells me to call my doctor and tell them I will be LATE!!!!


I call the insurance company to calmly complain, I can't be late to this doctor I only see them once a month.

He actually hands the woman in the back seat my information while we were arguing about him being early, and asks her to read what it says, like a child arguing in front of his parents......so now this woman knows my medical info, address, where I am going.

She starts screaming at me about what a piece of shit white trash scum bag I am, with no job living off the government, and I'm a liberal piece of trash.  This lady continues to insult me for a half an hour while the cab driver gets lost looking for her appointment.

Finally his dispatch calls him and says to drop her off at a GAS STATION PARKING LOT!!!! He drops her off in the middle of no where, then drives me to my appointment a half an hour late, as they are locking the doors.

I missed my appointment and he just drove me home.


I just sat in that cab for 2 goddamn hours and didn't even get to see my doctor, and have to reschedule, and now explain this to my house arrest officer.


Holy shit I am having a bad day.


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Re: I'm about to pay 60 bucks for a cab, and I am not happy about it. [Re: vandago]
    #23642002 - 09/13/16 03:47 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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vandago said:
This guy bs'es me too. He gets so much business kicked down from me from the hotel I work at and he still charged me 2 bucks a mile, and their normal right is 1.50.

After taxes I made about 20 bucks on an 8 hour shift tonight.

I need a car so bad.  Life is absolutely beating the living fuck out of me so bad.




That's after paying for the ride, right?  Otherwise how is that possible?  I make like $80/day after taxes (unless I work OT) and I am pretty close to the bottom of the barrel.  My expenses for my car is like $15/day maybe, which ain't cheap, but beats 60 and I have a nice new car I can drive whenever I want.


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Re: I'm about to pay 60 bucks for a cab, and I am not happy about it. [Re: vandago]
    #23642011 - 09/13/16 03:52 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

I can get you a brand-new Cadillac with the pink slip for two grand.


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Re: I'm about to pay 60 bucks for a cab, and I am not happy about it. [Re: shadyy]
    #23642319 - 09/13/16 05:22 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

You guys have to understand that cab drivers pay a fee every month to use the medallion to work for the taxi cab company. That fee is a lot, it's like a couple a hundred dollars a month. Depending on where you live it could be $800 a month or more. So a lot of times cabbies who don't make that money end up owing money to the taxi company. Now I use Uber, but if I were to use a cab, I'd tip.


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Re: I'm about to pay 60 bucks for a cab, and I am not happy about it. [Re: vandago]
    #23642340 - 09/13/16 05:28 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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vandago said:
We drive 10 minutes out of the way ( he could've gotten her instead of picking me up early ) and tells me we are going to have to drop her off FIRST then me and then when I am done go wait for her, tells me to call my doctor and tell them I will be LATE!!!!

I call the insurance company to calmly complain, I can't be late to this doctor I only see them once a month.

He actually hands the woman in the back seat my information while we were arguing about him being early, and asks her to read what it says, like a child arguing in front of his parents......so now this woman knows my medical info, address, where I am going.

She starts screaming at me about what a piece of shit white trash scum bag I am, with no job living off the government, and I'm a liberal piece of trash.  This lady continues to insult me for a half an hour while the cab driver gets lost looking for her appointment.

Finally his dispatch calls him and says to drop her off at a GAS STATION PARKING LOT!!!! He drops her off in the middle of no where, then drives me to my appointment a half an hour late, as they are locking the doors



Damn dude, that's fucked. I've never heard about anything like that happening with Uber or Lyft. The oldschool taxi industry needs to die in a fire.


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Re: I'm about to pay 60 bucks for a cab, and I am not happy about it. [Re: nooneman]
    #23642348 - 09/13/16 05:29 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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She starts screaming at me about what a piece of shit white trash scum bag I am, with no job living off the government, and I'm a liberal piece of trash.  This lady continues to insult me for a half an hour while the cab driver gets lost looking for her appointment.




What the fuck is wrong with that lady? What gives her the right to talk that way to you?


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Re: I'm about to pay 60 bucks for a cab, and I am not happy about it. [Re: Crystal G]
    #23642397 - 09/13/16 05:48 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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You guys have to understand that cab drivers pay a fee every month to use the medallion to work for the taxi cab company. That fee is a lot, it's like a couple a hundred dollars a month. Depending on where you live it could be $800 a month or more. So a lot of times cabbies who don't make that money end up owing money to the taxi company. Now I use Uber, but if I were to use a cab, I'd tip.





Then maybe they should find a different line of work :shrug:. They have to bet some people just aren't going to tip, it would be foolish to think or plan otherwise. I don't mind being one of those accounted for and labeled as cheap or whatever for not tipping a cab driver. Also I'm pretty sure not every city has this medallion system and I'm pretty sure my city does not. It's too small and tips or not there's no way any cab company could operate and make a profit with such a system in place, not unless the medallions are a hell of a lot cheaper here. There's simply not enough demand for it around here because there are not enough people taking cabs. I don't even see a cab every day I go out driving.

My willingness to tip for really anything is also based around it being something I chose to do and not something I had to do. If I go out to eat, I chose to go out to eat and I chose to pick a place to eat where tipping is expected. When I've had to take a cab it's because I had to show up for something and literally had no other options on how to get there. Cabbie is just gonna have to be happy with the knowledge that I damn sure wouldn't be paying someone a hundred dollars to drive me somewhere if I didn't absolutely have to. That's more than enough to rent a car for a day (gas included) if I had my license at the time.


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Re: I'm about to pay 60 bucks for a cab, and I am not happy about it. [Re: Shroomslip]
    #23642417 - 09/13/16 05:55 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Then maybe they should find a different line of work :shrug:. They have to bet some people just aren't going to tip, it would be foolish to think or plan otherwise. I don't mind being one of those accounted for and labeled as cheap or whatever for not tipping a cab driver. Also I'm pretty sure not every city has this medallion system and I'm pretty sure my city does not. It's too small and tips or not there's no way any cab company could operate and make a profit with such a system in place, not unless the medallions are a hell of a lot cheaper here. There's simply not enough demand for it around here because there are not enough people taking cabs. I don't even see a cab every day I go out driving.

My willingness to tip for really anything is also based around it being something I chose to do and not something I had to do. If I go out to eat, I chose to go out to eat and I chose to pick a place to eat where tipping is expected. When I've had to take a cab it's because I had to show up for something and literally had no other options on how to get there. Cabbie is just gonna have to be happy with the knowledge that I damn sure wouldn't be paying someone a hundred dollars to drive me somewhere if I didn't absolutely have to. That's more than enough to rent a car for a day (gas included) if I had my license at the time.




If all drivers found a different line of work, then you'd no longer be able to find a ride in places that don't have Uber or Lyft.

Pretty sure every city has a medallion system. That's how the taxi cab company keeps their monopoly and drives their prices artificially high, is by using a medallion type system.

Otherwise I'm pretty sure all these unhappy taxi cab drivers would simply start their own cab company and offer lower prices to give themselves a competitive edge. But they can't, because of the medallions. Back in the day, any car could simply paint a sign on their car that said "TAXI" and they'd be in business. Now you can't do that anymore. There's so much red tape and costs that aspiring entrepreneurs and small businesses can't win.

I don't know, just sounds too much like the customer that refuses to tip waitresses because they complain that their meal is high enough already. You're punishing the poor worker who's already barely scraping by for something that they have no control over, for something the company does.


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Re: I'm about to pay 60 bucks for a cab, and I am not happy about it. [Re: vandago]
    #23642426 - 09/13/16 05:58 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Holy shit I am having a bad day.



Man that's a hella bad day. Surprised you held your temper with that cocksucker in the cab talking to you like that.


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Re: I'm about to pay 60 bucks for a cab, and I am not happy about it. [Re: Shroomslip]
    #23642427 - 09/13/16 05:59 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

I think if it is something you do regularly, then it is probably wise to tip if you can afford it and want preferential treatment, if not, who gives a fuck?  It doesn't matter. 

Does anyone tip the bus driver?  No.  Do you tip an airline pilot?  No.  I would say tips are not customary in the transportation industry and I for one am not crusading to change that.


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Re: I'm about to pay 60 bucks for a cab, and I am not happy about it. [Re: Crystal G]
    #23642440 - 09/13/16 06:03 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

By the way, you guys should find drivers through Craigslist. I've done that before.

If I know for a fact that I'm going to need a ride at a certain time, on a certain day. I'll post an ad on Craigslist at least 2 or 3 days beforehand saying that I'm seeking drivers, and that I'm offering X amount of pay for a ride there and back.

I usually offer $60 for a 60 to 80 mile driving-distance, which I think is pretty fair. Uber charges more, but when you factor in the fact that they take over half your earnings, it amounts to roughly the same thing. You get to have a cheaper ride than if you had used Uber, and the driver gets paid $30 an hour for only 2 hours of work. It's a win-win situation.

If you're being driven 20 miles, you could put up $20 or $25. Generally I put up $1 per mile or so to make it worth people's time. Nobody's going to go out of their way to drive somebody 20-30 miles for $5 or $10, except really seedy people who you might not be able to trust.

You'd be surprised, I literally got HUNDREDS of emails too with each posting. A lot of people out there are looking for jobs. I felt bad that I could only pick one and would end up having to say no to the rest of them.

I even tipped my personal driver from Craigslist too. I would tip $10 or $20 depending on how far they drove me.


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Re: I'm about to pay 60 bucks for a cab, and I am not happy about it. [Re: Crystal G]
    #23642445 - 09/13/16 06:04 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

I'm fine with cab drivers finding other lines of work. I don't use them. :lol: I can drive myself now and I can rent a car for a hell of a lot less than a cab costs me. Even for short periods like an hour or something. I can go to Uhaul and rent a truck for like 20 dollars. 20 dollars in a cab would probably get me from my house to Uhaul and I can walk there in about 10 minutes.

I'm not punishing anyone. I didn't make the system up.

Also if you look it up, not all cities do have medallion systems. Most have some form of licensing system but I really doubt they are all as outrageous as the New York or other major city example you're gonna pull up. I'm not saying they're getting rich by driving cabs but you can't apply one city's system to the entire United States like that is just the norm.


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    #23642460 - 09/13/16 06:09 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Does anyone tip the bus driver?  No.  Do you tip an airline pilot?  No.  I would say tips are not customary in the transportation industry and I for one am not crusading to change that.




Bus drivers work for the city or school district, and pilots make a salary of $80K at least. That's why you don't have to tip them. If that bus driver is your personal driver driving your band on tour or something, you should tip the driver if they work for a company. Or if they operate their own bus and it's their own business, you two agree on a rate that is fair and acceptable.

Tipping your taxi cab driver is just as customary as tipping your hairdresser. A lot of people don't even know you're supposed to tip your hair dresser.

If you hire a limo, it's also customary to tip the limousine driver.


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    #23642490 - 09/13/16 06:16 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Tipping your taxi cab driver is just as customary as tipping your hairdresser. A lot of people don't even know you're supposed to tip your hair dresser.



Tips are based on good service, or expectation of great service IMHO. 
If I knew a cabby that drove me before and was quick and safe, I'd be inclined to tip them, if they were slow, hell no.  If my barber fucks up my cut, no tip.  If a bartender/waitress provides good service, tips for them, if they fuck up or are too slow for the scene, no tips.


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    #23642493 - 09/13/16 06:16 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

I would say it is more customary to tip hairdressers.  I almost never take taxis, and never alone, but nobody really seems to care about taxi drivers, and nobody really seems to suffer for it. 

What are they going to do?  Crash the car?  Take longer to get where you're going out of spite even though they would lose money doing that?

It's easy to get through a cab ride just staring at your phone where barbers and such have an intimate relationship with their clientele.  The average person cares alot more about who touches their hair than the person they trust with their life piloting an automobile.  Sad but true.


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    #23642508 - 09/13/16 06:20 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Tips are based on good service, or expectation of great service IMHO. 
If I knew a cabby that drove me before and was quick and safe, I'd be inclined to tip them, if they were slow, hell no.  If my barber fucks up my cut, no tip.  If a bartender/waitress provides good service, tips for them, if they fuck up or are too slow for the scene, no tips.




What do you mean too slow though? Because sometimes your food coming out just takes longer to make, and this is not necessarily the wait staff's fault that the chefs are taking a long time to cook your food.

I can understand giving a bad tip, like 5% or 10%, but no tip at all is too much. Especially for wait staff who already only make $2 or something per hour. I've seen people post pictures of checks where people have stiffed them on $200 checks.


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Tips are based on good service, or expectation of great service IMHO. 
If I knew a cabby that drove me before and was quick and safe, I'd be inclined to tip them, if they were slow, hell no.  If my barber fucks up my cut, no tip.  If a bartender/waitress provides good service, tips for them, if they fuck up or are too slow for the scene, no tips.




What do you mean too slow though? Because sometimes your food coming out just takes longer to make, and this is not necessarily the wait staff's fault that the chefs are taking a long time to cook your food.

I can understand giving a bad tip, like 5% or 10%, but no tip at all is too much. Especially for wait staff who already only make $2 or something per hour. I've seen people post pictures of checks where people have stiffed them on $200 checks.



Wait staff whom makes $2 an hour has the right and freedom to move to where they can make more, or find a higher-paying line of work altogether.
I'm not going to fucking tip someone whom can't figure out how to make more money just because.

I mean too slow if the place isn't busy.  If it is dead and it takes forever, fuck that, but if it is busy and rush hour, it is understandable.


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    #23642534 - 09/13/16 06:27 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Wait staff whom makes $2 an hour has the right and freedom to move to where they can make more, or find a higher-paying line of work altogether.




Right, because people who aren't making enough should simply just find another job that makes more. What a novel concept. That's what we should all do. Find jobs that make more. :facepalm:

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I mean too slow if the place isn't busy.  If it is dead and it takes forever, fuck that, but if it is busy and rush hour, it is understandable.




Again, how is it the fault of the wait staff if your food is slow to come out?


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    #23642539 - 09/13/16 06:31 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

How is the fault of the customer that these people aren't being paid a livable wage to begin with? :snub:


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Wait staff whom makes $2 an hour has the right and freedom to move to where they can make more, or find a higher-paying line of work altogether.




Right, because people who aren't making enough should simply just find another job that makes more. What a novel concept. That's what we should all do. Find jobs that make more. :facepalm:

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I mean too slow if the place isn't busy.  If it is dead and it takes forever, fuck that, but if it is busy and rush hour, it is understandable.




Again, how is it the fault of the wait staff if your food is slow to come out?



Well I'm not stopping them from making more money.  They certainly aren't going to get an automatic tip from me for their overall lack of effort in life.  If they earn it, they get a tip, that is the entire point from my POV.


I've seen wait staff waste time and talk amongst each other.  It can certainly be their fault.


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    #23642543 - 09/13/16 06:31 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

It makes me laugh how much of a 'thing' tipping is in the US. I'm grateful here that we have the freedom to tip only when we feel it is truly deserved, without being made to feel like a cunt if you feel it is not.


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    #23642549 - 09/13/16 06:33 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Sometimes you will see your food sitting in the little bay widow ready to be served and they will be dicking around back laughing or outside smoking or something.  I agree though the waitstaff takes alot of the heat for the chef sometimes, but they also can do alot better than the chefs and not share the benefits in alot of places.

It takes alot for me not to leave at least a decent tip at a restaurant though, and I always tip wherever I see a tip jar but I usually just put $1 in a jar.


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    #23642550 - 09/13/16 06:33 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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It makes me laugh how much of a 'thing' tipping is in the US. I'm grateful here that we have the freedom to tip only when we feel it is truly deserved, without being made to feel like a cunt if you feel it is not.



I tip, as it is a thing here, but I share your sentiment that it must be deserved, and I never feel like a cunt if I don't tip some lazy moron whom just expects a tip for simply doing their fucking job.


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    #23642552 - 09/13/16 06:34 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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How is the fault of the customer that these people aren't being paid a livable wage to begin with? :snub:




You don't have to eat out. You can order take-out if you don't want to tip.

If you know you're not going to tip beforehand, you should at least tell the wait staff at the beginning, so that you can offer to get your own drinks and get your own food and utensils. If people did that, I would think that's more than fair to not offer up a tip.


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    #23642555 - 09/13/16 06:35 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

They can find other lines of work if they're not making enough as is. We can do this all day.


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How is the fault of the customer that these people aren't being paid a livable wage to begin with? :snub:




You don't have to eat out. You can order take-out if you don't want to tip.




And wait staff can find a better job, they don't have to work for $2 and tips.


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    #23642562 - 09/13/16 06:37 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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If you know you're not going to tip beforehand, you should at least tell the wait staff at the beginning, so that you can offer to get your own drinks and get your own food and utensils. If people did that, I would think that's more than fair to not offer up a tip.



I should offer to do their job huh, LOL.


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    #23642573 - 09/13/16 06:39 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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It makes me laugh how much of a 'thing' tipping is in the US. I'm grateful here that we have the freedom to tip only when we feel it is truly deserved, without being made to feel like a cunt if you feel it is not.




Haha, back when I was a server, I noticed foreigners were the worst at tipping. A group of flight attendants who were flying in from British Airways came in one time, and I automatically placed an 18% gratuity on their bill, because I could just tell they weren't familiar with American tipping customs. A lot of restaurants allow you to add a mandatory gratuity fee if we had a feeling that somebody wasn't going to tip.

If people stopped tipping, restaurants would simply add an automatic 18% to 20% gratuity on the customer's bill.


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    #23642576 - 09/13/16 06:41 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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If you know you're not going to tip beforehand, you should at least tell the wait staff at the beginning, so that you can offer to get your own drinks and get your own food and utensils. If people did that, I would think that's more than fair to not offer up a tip.



I should offer to do their job huh, LOL.




If you're not planning on paying, why do you expect them to wait on you? After taxes, the $2 they make per hour they gets taken out by taxes so they end up with a check of $0. This means their pay rests solely on you. They could be serving other customers and providing better service to other tables who will tip in the meantime.


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    #23642580 - 09/13/16 06:43 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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And wait staff can find a better job, they don't have to work for $2 and tips.




Some people legitimately enjoy the work or choose to work that because it fits with their class schedule. Still doesn't mean you can stiff somebody for no reason without getting called out.


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If you know you're not going to tip beforehand, you should at least tell the wait staff at the beginning, so that you can offer to get your own drinks and get your own food and utensils. If people did that, I would think that's more than fair to not offer up a tip.



I should offer to do their job huh, LOL.




If you're not planning on paying, why do you expect them to wait on you? After taxes, the $2 they make per hour they gets taken out by taxes so they end up with a check of $0. This means their pay rests solely on you. They could be serving other customers and providing better service to other tables who will tip in the meantime.



Their pay rests solely between themselves and their boss, and also the pay/tax structure of their State. 

I never know if I am not going to tip beforehand, as my tips are exclusively service-based.  If I go to a place I have been before and had great service I certainly do plan to tip, but if I get shit service at a new place, fuck 'em.


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And wait staff can find a better job, they don't have to work for $2 and tips.




Some people legitimately enjoy the work or choose to work that because it fits with their class schedule. Still doesn't mean you can stiff somebody for no reason without getting called out.



Anyone who wants a tip from me better be providing great service or the tip I will give them is to get a better job.
Their class schedule is not my fault either.  I'm not stiffing anyone.  I tip, and I tip on my own system, just as wait staff chooses their employment and chooses their own class schedule.


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How is the fault of the customer that these people aren't being paid a livable wage to begin with? :snub:




You don't have to eat out. You can order take-out if you don't want to tip.




And wait staff can find a better job, they don't have to work for $2 and tips.



this right here reminds me of the scene in reservoir dogs where Mr. Pink is explaining why he doesn't tip :lol:

"Uh uh, I don’t tip. No, I don’t believe in it. … Don’t give me that, if she don’t make enough money she can quit. … I don’t tip because society says I have to. All right, I mean I’ll tip if someone really deserves a tipping, if they really put forth the effort, I’ll give them something extra, but I mean this tipping automatically, it’s for the birds. I mean as far as I’m concerned they’re just doing their job. … She was okay. She wasn’t anything special. … Look I ordered coffee all right? Now we’ve been here a long fuckin’ time, she’s only filled my cup three times. When I order coffee I want it filled six times. … The words “too fuckin’ busy” shouldn’t be in a waitress’ vocabulary. … Jesus Christ, these ladies aren’t starving to death. They make minimum wage. I used to work minimum wage and when I did I wasn’t lucky enough to have a job that society deemed tip worthy. … You know what this is? It’s the world’s smallest violin playing just for the waitresses. … So is working at McDonald’s but you don’t feel the need to tip them do you? Well why not? They’re serving you food. But no, society says don’t tip these guys over here, but tip these guys over here. That’s bullshit. … Fuck all that. … I mean I’m very sorry the government taxes their tips. That’s fucked up. That ain’t my fault. I mean it would appear that waitresses are one of the many groups the government fucks in the ass on a regular basis. I mean show a piece of paper that says the government shouldn’t do that, I’ll sign it, put it to a vote, I’ll vote for it, but what I won’t do is play ball. And this non-college bullshit I got two words for that: learn to fucking type, ’cause if you’re expecting me to help out with the rent you’re in for a big fucking surprise."


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    #23642625 - 09/13/16 06:52 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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I never know if I am not going to tip beforehand, as my tips are exclusively service-based.  If I go to a place I have been before and had great service I certainly do plan to tip, but if I get shit service at a new place, fuck 'em.




Yeah, I'm referring to people who know they are walking into an establishment beforehand with the intention not to tip.

I've heard of customers like this, but have never encountered them myself. But I was wait-staffing in a city that apparently is ranked to be #1 in the nation's most generous tippers. Almost all tips I received were a minimum of 20%. It wasn't uncommon for me to get 30% tips. Very few times I got a bare minimum of 15%. I never got completely stiffed at all.


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How is the fault of the customer that these people aren't being paid a livable wage to begin with? :snub:




You don't have to eat out. You can order take-out if you don't want to tip.




And wait staff can find a better job, they don't have to work for $2 and tips.



this right here reminds me of the scene in reservoir dogs where Mr. Pink is explaining why he doesn't tip :lol:

"Uh uh, I don’t tip. No, I don’t believe in it. … Don’t give me that, if she don’t make enough money she can quit. … I don’t tip because society says I have to. All right, I mean I’ll tip if someone really deserves a tipping, if they really put forth the effort, I’ll give them something extra, but I mean this tipping automatically, it’s for the birds. I mean as far as I’m concerned they’re just doing their job. … She was okay. She wasn’t anything special. … Look I ordered coffee all right? Now we’ve been here a long fuckin’ time, she’s only filled my cup three times. When I order coffee I want it filled six times. … The words “too fuckin’ busy” shouldn’t be in a waitress’ vocabulary. … Jesus Christ, these ladies aren’t starving to death. They make minimum wage. I used to work minimum wage and when I did I wasn’t lucky enough to have a job that society deemed tip worthy. … You know what this is? It’s the world’s smallest violin playing just for the waitresses. … So is working at McDonald’s but you don’t feel the need to tip them do you? Well why not? They’re serving you food. But no, society says don’t tip these guys over here, but tip these guys over here. That’s bullshit. … Fuck all that. … I mean I’m very sorry the government taxes their tips. That’s fucked up. That ain’t my fault. I mean it would appear that waitresses are one of the many groups the government fucks in the ass on a regular basis. I mean show a piece of paper that says the government shouldn’t do that, I’ll sign it, put it to a vote, I’ll vote for it, but what I won’t do is play ball. And this non-college bullshit I got two words for that: learn to fucking type, ’cause if you’re expecting me to help out with the rent you’re in for a big fucking surprise."




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Re: I'm about to pay 60 bucks for a cab, and I am not happy about it. [Re: Crystal G]
    #23642661 - 09/13/16 07:00 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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I never know if I am not going to tip beforehand, as my tips are exclusively service-based.  If I go to a place I have been before and had great service I certainly do plan to tip, but if I get shit service at a new place, fuck 'em.




Yeah, I'm referring to people who know they are walking into an establishment beforehand with the intention not to tip.

I've heard of customers like this, but have never encountered them myself. But I was wait-staffing in a city that apparently is ranked to be #1 in the nation's most generous tippers. Almost all tips I received were a minimum of 20%. It wasn't uncommon for me to get 30% tips. Very few times I got a bare minimum of 15%. I never got completely stiffed at all.



Well you aren't a complete moron, and you don't seem to be lazy. I'd guess you actually earned your tips.  Believe it or not, though, there are shit wait staff out there who don't deserve an automatic tip, because that undermines the system(my system at least), of tips being based on good service.
I've only not tipped at restaurants a couple of times because of shitty food and service, but I do usually tip.

I tip the gas station dude(here in Oregon it is illegal to pump your own fuel) because he always runs to my car when it is busy and hot out(or raining) because he knows I am going to tip because he makes an effort, and it works for both of us because I get fueled-up first and have less of a wait than others, and he profits.  That's how my system works.


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Re: I'm about to pay 60 bucks for a cab, and I am not happy about it. [Re: California]
    #23642692 - 09/13/16 07:09 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

No Tipping Trend Spreads as Two More Top Portland Restaurants Eliminate Gratuity
Restaurants will display "Gratuity-Free" logo.



Navarre, the 28th avenue tapas restaurant consistently ranked among the finest in the city, and East Burnside Italian spot Luce—declared the 4th best new restaurant in America by food magazine Bon Appetit in 2012—will adopt a gratuity-free policy by the end of the year.

Both restaurants are owned by chef John Taboada—who also owns the Angel Face bar next to Navarre—begin their no-tipping policy by the end of the year.

Those restaurants will join Bent Brick, Park Kitchen, Farm Spirit and Gabriel Rucker's French-influenced Le Pigeon—which topped Willamette Week's list of the finest restaurants in Portland in our October 2015 restaurant guide

All will display a logo developed by New York restaurateur Andrew Tarlow (Reynard, Wythe Hotel) declaring themselves gratuity-free establishments.



In all cases, the prices on the menu will rise, but instead of the majority of the money going to the server, it will also be distributed to the cooks, dishwashers and everybody else responsible for making the restaurant what it is. Under current tipping policies, servers often receive drastically higher compensation than chefs, when tips are factored in.

Which is to say, the wage will be paid by the restaurant directly, and not each diner who walks in.

Recent circuit court rulings have made the common practice of tip pooling, in which servers tip out back-of-house staff from their tips, a much more fraught issue—in many cases forbidding tips to be shared with cooks and dishwashers who don’t interact with customers.

The move to drop tips has not been without hitches, however—nor prominent defectors. Pok Pok restaurateur Andy Ricker opened with a no-tipping policy, then stopped it abruptly, declaring Los Angeles “not ready.” then started them up again, at his Los Angeles restaurants.

Kurt Huffman, owner of ChefStable restaurant group (Ox, Lardo, St. Jack, Oven and Shaker), ardently advocated for no tipping—and opened many-tapped beer-bar Loyal Legion with a no-tip policy—then walked back both Loyal Legion’s Tipping policy and his support of the idea, declaring gratuity-free policies a “terrible idea.”

Le Pigeon will begin its no-tipping policy this Saturday, June 18. Vegan restaurant Farm Spirit is already tip-free—as it has been since opening in June 2015. Park Kitchen will drop tips July 1, and Bent Brick will drop tipping July 2.


http://www.wweek.com/restaurants/2016/06/13/no-tipping-trend-spreads-portland-eliminate-gratuity/


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Re: I'm about to pay 60 bucks for a cab, and I am not happy about it. [Re: California]
    #23642696 - 09/13/16 07:10 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Well you aren't a complete moron, and you don't seem to be lazy. I'd guess you actually earned your tips.  Believe it or not, though, there are shit wait staff out there who don't deserve an automatic tip, because that undermines the system(my system at least), of tips being based on good service.
I've only not tipped at restaurants a couple of times because of shitty food and service, but I do usually tip.

I tip the gas station dude(here in Oregon it is illegal to pump your own fuel) because he always runs to my car when it is busy and hot out(or raining) because he knows I am going to tip because he makes an effort, and it works for both of us because I get fueled-up first and have less of a wait than others, and he profits.  That's how my system works.




I believe it, especially in more rural areas where people work at a slower pace. I haven't seen many lazy wait staff in coastal cities or metropolitan urban cities.

I've noticed though, when I've gone to more rural areas like Arizona or New Mexico, the customer service is a lot slower. People take all the time in the world, and they are more casual when they speak, like "Whaddya want?" That shit would never fly on the east coast.


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Re: I'm about to pay 60 bucks for a cab, and I am not happy about it. [Re: Crystal G]
    #23642698 - 09/13/16 07:11 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Indeed.  Location and setting does have something to do with that aspect of it.


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Re: I'm about to pay 60 bucks for a cab, and I am not happy about it. [Re: California]
    #23642701 - 09/13/16 07:12 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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No Tipping Trend Spreads as Two More Top Portland Restaurants Eliminate Gratuity
Restaurants will display "Gratuity-Free" logo.




There's a Michelin star restaurant in Brooklyn that also has a no-tipping policy. You have to remember that these restaurants pay their staff a minimum of $15 an hour though, either that or they tack a "service charge" onto your order. So essentially it ends up coming out to the same thing for the customer.


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Re: I'm about to pay 60 bucks for a cab, and I am not happy about it. [Re: Crystal G]
    #23642766 - 09/13/16 07:38 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Well you aren't a complete moron, and you don't seem to be lazy. I'd guess you actually earned your tips.




Well actually now that I think about it, I did have a couple ghetto hood rats come in. I'm talking ghetto people that try to complain about everything so they can try to get something for free. A couple of times, they order drinks or food or something, they eat or drink the entire thing, and then try to return it for a refund.

I refuse to refund them their money, it's company policy to refuse if they have consumed the entire thing. If you eat even half of it, and then return it, I would gladly refund your money. But not for eating the whole thing.

Usually when people who I feel are scam-artists try to come in, I place an automatic gratuity on their tip. Not always, because surprisingly hood rats are sometimes very generous tippers. But for people who are being cheap and are trying to pull a fast one, I did. That might be why I have never gotten stiffed.

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I've only not tipped at restaurants a couple of times because of shitty food and service, but I do usually tip.




I've got to say though, tipping because of shitty food is again, not the wait-staff's fault.

If you didn't like your food, you could have returned it (before you finished the whole thing obviously) and gotten a refund or ordered something else.


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Re: I'm about to pay 60 bucks for a cab, and I am not happy about it. [Re: Crystal G]
    #23642803 - 09/13/16 07:48 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

The service was shitty too.  I didn't finish it, and I don't give second chances when dining out so I wasn't going to order something else from the same place after they'd already fucked up.


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Re: I'm about to pay 60 bucks for a cab, and I am not happy about it. [Re: Crystal G]
    #23642824 - 09/13/16 07:56 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Well you aren't a complete moron, and you don't seem to be lazy. I'd guess you actually earned your tips.  Believe it or not, though, there are shit wait staff out there who don't deserve an automatic tip, because that undermines the system(my system at least), of tips being based on good service.
I've only not tipped at restaurants a couple of times because of shitty food and service, but I do usually tip.

I tip the gas station dude(here in Oregon it is illegal to pump your own fuel) because he always runs to my car when it is busy and hot out(or raining) because he knows I am going to tip because he makes an effort, and it works for both of us because I get fueled-up first and have less of a wait than others, and he profits.  That's how my system works.




I believe it, especially in more rural areas where people work at a slower pace. I haven't seen many lazy wait staff in coastal cities or metropolitan urban cities.

I've noticed though, when I've gone to more rural areas like Arizona or New Mexico, the customer service is a lot slower. People take all the time in the world, and they are more casual when they speak, like "Whaddya want?" That shit would never fly on the east coast.





Must depend on the area I guess. I work in a small rural suburb in IL (I believe it just broke 6k people recently) for a gourmet meat market and my boss would fucking filet me if I addressed a customer like that, much less 'took all the time in the world' to get their orders. Hell, I get reprimanded fairly often if I'm free and theres a customer who hasn't been helped yet (regardless of whether or not they're still staring at the cases trying to figure out wtf they want in the first place or if they had literally just walked up to the case) :lol: Since I started working at 13 I don't believe I've ever had a job where I didn't refer to any customers I had to deal with in any capacity as 'sir' or 'ma'am'


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Re: I'm about to pay 60 bucks for a cab, and I am not happy about it. [Re: Cj-B]
    #23643024 - 09/13/16 09:05 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

waiters and bartenders r so spoiled,a lot of them seem to be getting uglier every year,it used to be they were supposed to be attractive now they look like walmart workers or stooped labor field hands


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Re: I'm about to pay 60 bucks for a cab, and I am not happy about it. [Re: vandago]
    #23643140 - 09/13/16 09:43 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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After taxes I made about 20 bucks on an 8 hour shift tonight.




Shit man, that's fucking bullshit.
I'm assuming you're including the cab ride or whatever.

Know the feeling though, I'm stuck with no car in an area where you need a car to do anything.
Fucking bullshit, just work a shit job, go home and bide my time.
Probably should have just stayed homeless.


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Re: I'm about to pay 60 bucks for a cab, and I am not happy about it. [Re: vandago]
    #23643228 - 09/13/16 10:13 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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To make matters worse I just got done with ANOTHER cab ride.  This was through my insurance.

I am on house arrest so I have allotted times I can leave the house.  This guy gets here a half hour early.  I can't go outside.

I finally hit the 3 o clock mark and go out there......he says he has to go pick up another client.

We drive 10 minutes out of the way ( he could've gotten her instead of picking me up early ) and tells me we are going to have to drop her off FIRST then me and then when I am done go wait for her, tells me to call my doctor and tell them I will be LATE!!!!


I call the insurance company to calmly complain, I can't be late to this doctor I only see them once a month.

He actually hands the woman in the back seat my information while we were arguing about him being early, and asks her to read what it says, like a child arguing in front of his parents......so now this woman knows my medical info, address, where I am going.

She starts screaming at me about what a piece of shit white trash scum bag I am, with no job living off the government, and I'm a liberal piece of trash.  This lady continues to insult me for a half an hour while the cab driver gets lost looking for her appointment.

Finally his dispatch calls him and says to drop her off at a GAS STATION PARKING LOT!!!! He drops her off in the middle of no where, then drives me to my appointment a half an hour late, as they are locking the doors.

I missed my appointment and he just drove me home.


I just sat in that cab for 2 goddamn hours and didn't even get to see my doctor, and have to reschedule, and now explain this to my house arrest officer.


Holy shit I am having a bad day.





So I was talking about this to my insurance company.  They were saying not only with their policies is the driver only allowed to pick up one person at a time, but him handing her my paperwork with my address, phone number, doctors name, etc, was highly illegal and that I could file a lawsuit against the company for the way he behaved, and for picking her up, then giving her my info, then making me miss an appointment I only go to once a month.......which I really needed to go to.



Would you file a lawsuit over something like this?  I have the complaint noted, and while on the phone with the insurance company the woman in the backseat is screaming and swearing at me.  He ended up dropping her off at a gas station and just taking me back to my house.


I kept my composure the entire time somehow, but I was not a happy camper after all that.


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Re: I'm about to pay 60 bucks for a cab, and I am not happy about it. [Re: Repertoire89]
    #23643233 - 09/13/16 10:16 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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After taxes I made about 20 bucks on an 8 hour shift tonight.




Shit man, that's fucking bullshit.
I'm assuming you're including the cab ride or whatever.

Know the feeling though, I'm stuck with no car in an area where you need a car to do anything.
Fucking bullshit, just work a shit job, go home and bide my time.
Probably should have just stayed homeless.





Ya thats because of the cab ride from work, and paying someone 20 bucks to take me to work.  I had to pay 80 dollars to work LOL.


And the reason I didn't tip is because the cab driver didn't turn the mile ticker on and charged me a flat rate, which was more than it would have been if he turned the ticker on, so technically the gratuity was added into the fare in my eyes.  This was a cab company.


The second cab I took later in the day was a designated cab through my insurance company, that my insurance covers to get me to appointments, I don't get to choose who picks me up for those, they do, and you don't tip because the insurance company covers the bill and the miles plus a pick up fee.

I always tip even if it's shitty service, but not if the tip is included.


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Re: I'm about to pay 60 bucks for a cab, and I am not happy about it. [Re: vandago]
    #23643247 - 09/13/16 10:21 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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I always tip even if it's shitty service,



You fucking monster.  Please stop enabling and encouraging shitty service.


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Re: I'm about to pay 60 bucks for a cab, and I am not happy about it. [Re: California]
    #23643255 - 09/13/16 10:26 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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I always tip even if it's shitty service,



You fucking monster.  Please stop enabling and encouraging shitty service.





It's not enabling shitty service.

It's a motto my grandfather always called "The tipping pool" 

It's a pool of tipping karma in which you pretty much kill the server with kindness.

You walk in there in rags and get treated poorly because of it, then leave 25% and it goes into the pool that all the servers swim in.

They realize "fuck I should've served them better, imagine how much better they would've tipped?"

And also, how do you know someone didn't just run them through the ringer?  "OH THE FOOD SUCKS!!! YOU SUCK!!! I'VE BEEN COMING HERE 20 YEARS AND THIS IS HOW YOU TREAT ME!!!! MY DRINK HAS BEEN EMPTY FOR OVER 5 MINUTES!!! GET ME YOUR MANAGER!!!!"  Then the manager comes and does the same thing and the server really didn't do a bad job, the person was just trying to get free shit and be a dick?

Servers aren't robots, they are people.  Unless they are acting like a piece of shit across the board, there's probably a reason for your bad service, and they aren't making shit if they don't get tips.  I always was taught to make people smile, and what better way to do so than when they are frowning?  It's just a few bucks.


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Re: I'm about to pay 60 bucks for a cab, and I am not happy about it. [Re: vandago]
    #23643261 - 09/13/16 10:27 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Would you file a lawsuit over something like this?  I have the complaint noted, and while on the phone with the insurance company the woman in the backseat is screaming and swearing at me.  He ended up dropping her off at a gas station and just taking me back to my house.




Yeah, I would most certainly sue. Even considering the inconvenience of hiring a lawyer and going to court.

Both of those people should be in a cage, you might not be able to arrange that, but you can at least be compensated for the situation and hopefully the cab driver will at least lose his job.

Granted it would be worth discussing with a lawyer what your odds of coming out ahead are, its not worth going to court if the odds aren't in your favor of winning.


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    #23643264 - 09/13/16 10:31 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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It's not enabling shitty service.

They realize "fuck I should've served them better, imagine how much better they would've tipped?"




Nah, I agree with California.

If they even think about it, its probably more like "hah, fuck that guy, he tipped me anyways."


Killing with kindness just makes you a sucker.
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Re: I'm about to pay 60 bucks for a cab, and I am not happy about it. [Re: Repertoire89]
    #23643268 - 09/13/16 10:34 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Would you file a lawsuit over something like this?  I have the complaint noted, and while on the phone with the insurance company the woman in the backseat is screaming and swearing at me.  He ended up dropping her off at a gas station and just taking me back to my house.




Yeah, I would most certainly sue. Even considering the inconvenience of hiring a lawyer and going to court.

Both of those people should be in a cage, you might not be able to arrange that, but you can at least be compensated for the situation and hopefully the cab driver will at least lose his job.

Granted it would be worth discussing with a lawyer what your odds of coming out ahead are, its not worth going to court if the odds aren't in your favor of winning.





Seems like I have a solid case. And I was literally on my way to see a grief counselor that I only see once a month.  The whole time this woman is screaming about what a lowlife jobless piece of shit I am, when I am half asleep because I work midnights.  The cab driver dropped her off at a gas station, then just took me to my doctors office 30 minutes late so I could reschedule.  Now I have to wait another month to go back. I haven't been.....right......lately.....and that really didn't help.  Suing didn't even cross my mind until my insurance company mentioned it ( it was a third party cab ) and then my boss immediately said to file a lawsuit.

Like when I called the insurance company while in the car they were like "Wait, he picked someone else up to take you each to doctor appointments? he isn't allowed to do that, that is confidential, you tell him to drop you off immediately" I told him what they said, and he actually turns around and asks the person we picked up if they minded?!!?!?!? Like what the fuck dude.  When I got to my docs office to reschedule they were like "You actually kept your cool? Unbelievable. I would flipped out."

I'm still kinda processing it.


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    #23643276 - 09/13/16 10:37 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Well I'm glad you didn't flip out, that could have hurt your case.

Did their voices carry over into the phone call? Was that call recorded?
It would be very convenient if so, and there is good money in lawsuits.

Normally I'm not in favor of suing, but if someones being a serious asshole and their asshole needs a pounding

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    #23643282 - 09/13/16 10:39 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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It's not enabling shitty service.

They realize "fuck I should've served them better, imagine how much better they would've tipped?"




Nah, I agree with California.

If they even think about it, its probably more like "hah, fuck that guy, he tipped me anyways."


Killing with kindness just makes you a sucker.
Most people don't give a shit.





It's just money.  I wouldn't offer to baby sit their kids, or offer them a helping hand with the dishes, but I will still throw a few bucks at them in hopes they quit fucking off.  And also a lot of places don't do individual tips anymore, hence the pool, each server has to take their tips back and put it with the rest of them and it gets divided equally ( thats how much bitro works, and I know a lot of places work like that )

I mean I am very generous. I'll give you my last cigarette even if I don't like you.  I don't think it's being a sucker. I think it's being the better person and it feels good to know despite someones attitude you can look past that and help.  Some people are in a lot of pain inside, or they have a mental syndrome they can't really control, or you may have misread them.


Now like if my food is fucked up and the server starts arguing with me, and practically insulting me, then storms off and refuses to keep serving me ( this has happened ) I won't tip. One time my friend didn't finish her food and the server accused her off eating all of it and then we all shoved a little bit on the plate to get a free meal.  It was a goddamn 3.99 bacon and eggs platter and my friend just said I am not eating this it's gross.  Server flipped her script.  I did not tip. 

The server has to be downright nasty for me not to tip. And you have to remember I am in the midwest. I have noticed in my travels, people are generally a bit bitchier overall here.  I aim to please even if they don't.


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    #23643284 - 09/13/16 10:40 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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So I was talking about this to my insurance company.  They were saying not only with their policies is the driver only allowed to pick up one person at a time, but him handing her my paperwork with my address, phone number, doctors name, etc, was highly illegal and that I could file a lawsuit against the company for the way he behaved, and for picking her up, then giving her my info, then making me miss an appointment I only go to once a month.......which I really needed to go to.

Would you file a lawsuit over something like this?  I have the complaint noted, and while on the phone with the insurance company the woman in the backseat is screaming and swearing at me.  He ended up dropping her off at a gas station and just taking me back to my house.

I kept my composure the entire time somehow, but I was not a happy camper after all that.




You could, but I don't know how much you would be compensated and whether that amount would even cover your attorney expenses. If I were you I'd get one of those attorneys that don't take a payment up front, but instead receive a percentage of whatever you win.


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Servers aren't robots, they are people.  Unless they are acting like a piece of shit across the board, there's probably a reason for your bad service, and they aren't making shit if they don't get tips.  I always was taught to make people smile, and what better way to do so than when they are frowning?  It's just a few bucks.




Seriously, I don't understand people who are bad tippers, especially if they are only eating by themselves. If your meal is $12, the difference between a 15% tip and a 30% tip is only like $1.50. It's literally a dollar or two dollars of a difference. That's change I would be giving to a homeless person for no work.


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    #23643289 - 09/13/16 10:41 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Well I'm glad you didn't flip out, that could have hurt your case.

Did their voices carry over into the phone call? Was that call recorded?
It would be very convenient if so, and there is good money in lawsuits.

Normally I'm not in favor of suing, but if someones being a serious asshole and their asshole needs a pounding

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Yes their voices carried over. You could hear her screaming and he was even handed the phone and told what to do and he refused.


I think I am going to call a lawyer in the morning.


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Re: I'm about to pay 60 bucks for a cab, and I am not happy about it. [Re: Repertoire89] * 1
    #23643294 - 09/13/16 10:43 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Normally I'm not in favor of suing, but if someones being a serious asshole and their asshole needs a pounding

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That gif in combination with that sentence :lolsy:


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Re: I'm about to pay 60 bucks for a cab, and I am not happy about it. [Re: Crystal G]
    #23643304 - 09/13/16 10:48 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Vandango, next time you have your doctor's appointment, you should post a job listing on Craigslist in the help wanted section saying that you are looking for a driver.

In the ad, you should state exactly what particular day and time you need a ride, and the exact amount of money you are offering for the job. I used to do this when looking for rides and I got literally hundreds of emails and replies.

I recommend posting at least one week in advance, so that you can sort through all the emails, and read everybody's bio and age and car make and model, so that you can select exactly the person who you think would be right for you. You should save a couple people's numbers just in case one of them doesn't follow through.

If it takes 45 minutes to get there, you should offer maybe $30 one-way. If they can wait around while you're seeing your doctor and bring you back, they get another $30. They end up working for 3 hours and make $20 an hour, and one of those hours they're not even technically working. So it's not a bad gig for somebody who's young and looking for a couple extra bucks. $20-$25 an hour is more than fair wage.

I always paid $30 an hour, but that's only because they had to drive through LA traffic which is the worst. I'd pay them $60 to take me a 2-hour driving distance, and they'd get another $60 for driving me back. So they'd make $120 in basically half a day's work, and on top of that I'd usually tip them another $10 or $20 too.


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Re: I'm about to pay 60 bucks for a cab, and I am not happy about it. [Re: vandago]
    #23643320 - 09/13/16 10:59 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Seriously, I don't understand people who are bad tippers, especially if they are only eating by themselves. If your meal is $12, the difference between a 15% tip and a 30% tip is only like $1.50. It's literally a dollar or two dollars of a difference. That's change I would be giving to a homeless person for no work.




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Some people are in a lot of pain inside, or they have a mental syndrome they can't really control, or you may have misread them.




I usually tip $2 at restaurants for my share, up to $5 sometimes.
Not asking for a smile or anything like that, just bottom line courtesy and mediocre service.

But if someone's being disrespectful, or fucking off, they get snubbed.
Don't care about their problems, I don't want their problems, they can go fuck themselves.


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Re: I'm about to pay 60 bucks for a cab, and I am not happy about it. [Re: Crystal G] * 1
    #23643322 - 09/13/16 11:01 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Vandango, next time you have your doctor's appointment, you should post a job listing on Craigslist in the help wanted section saying that you are looking for a driver.




His insurance covers all that though, it would be a waste of money.


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Re: I'm about to pay 60 bucks for a cab, and I am not happy about it. [Re: Crystal G]
    #23643329 - 09/13/16 11:05 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Vandango, next time you have your doctor's appointment, you should post a job listing on Craigslist in the help wanted section saying that you are looking for a driver.

In the ad, you should state exactly what particular day and time you need a ride, and the exact amount of money you are offering for the job. I used to do this when looking for rides and I got literally hundreds of emails and replies.

I recommend posting at least one week in advance, so that you can sort through all the emails, and read everybody's bio and age and car make and model, so that you can select exactly the person who you think would be right for you. You should save a couple people's numbers just in case one of them doesn't follow through.

If it takes 45 minutes to get there, you should offer maybe $30 one-way. If they can wait around while you're seeing your doctor and bring you back, they get another $30. They end up working for 3 hours and make $20 an hour, and one of those hours they're not even technically working. So it's not a bad gig for somebody who's young and looking for a couple extra bucks. $20-$25 an hour is more than fair wage.

I always paid $30 an hour, but that's only because they had to drive through LA traffic which is the worst.





I don't have to pay for these insurance rides. They are included in my insurance. Free round trips.  9/10 times they hire amazing cab companies.  This one I am dealing with now ( And never again ) is a new one.  I have 6 days left til I have a car again.


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Re: I'm about to pay 60 bucks for a cab, and I am not happy about it. [Re: Repertoire89]
    #23643331 - 09/13/16 11:06 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Vandango, next time you have your doctor's appointment, you should post a job listing on Craigslist in the help wanted section saying that you are looking for a driver.




His insurance covers all that though, it would be a waste of money.




Ohhhhhh I missed that part.

So I guess the insurance covers rides for him?

Oh well, if that's the case, then yeah, I wouldn't be worried about the cost either.


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Re: I'm about to pay 60 bucks for a cab, and I am not happy about it. [Re: Crystal G]
    #23643336 - 09/13/16 11:08 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

And since the insurance covers the ride, and the cab is to adhere to the fact I am a patient under their care to get to and from the doctor appointment safely and securely, they are WAY WAY out of bounds picking up another patient showing them my personal info, missing my appointment, and allowed anyone to scream at me like that.

I feel like this cab company really really really fucked up. This wasn't like I called a random company to get me, these people are employed through united healthcare.


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Re: I'm about to pay 60 bucks for a cab, and I am not happy about it. [Re: vandago]
    #23643375 - 09/13/16 11:19 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Yeah, I feel tentatively bad for the company itself.

Its the driver and whatever scumbag ass-sucking hooker he picked up's fault


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    #23643382 - 09/13/16 11:21 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

I don't even like complaining. I don't like seeing people losing their job, but fuck man I sat in this sweaty cab for over two hours dealing with this shit for absolutely nothing, missed my appointment, and fucked me on sleep for tonight.


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Re: I'm about to pay 60 bucks for a cab, and I am not happy about it. [Re: vandago]
    #23643406 - 09/13/16 11:29 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Well, that guy really crossed the line and he doubled down on it multiple times


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Re: I'm about to pay 60 bucks for a cab, and I am not happy about it. [Re: Crystal G] * 1
    #23643416 - 09/13/16 11:31 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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You guys have to understand that cab drivers pay a fee every month to use the medallion to work for the taxi cab company. That fee is a lot, it's like a couple a hundred dollars a month. Depending on where you live it could be $800 a month or more. So a lot of times cabbies who don't make that money end up owing money to the taxi company. Now I use Uber, but if I were to use a cab, I'd tip.




why is that the consumers fault or responsibility? If its to much, they can lower their price or die and let uber/lyft take over.


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    #23643621 - 09/14/16 01:23 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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why is that the consumers fault or responsibility? If its to much, they can lower their price or die and let uber/lyft take over.




I'm just saying, it's not the driver's fault. It's like being mad at a company then yelling at the poor $8 an hour retail worker because you don't like the company's policies.


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Re: I'm about to pay 60 bucks for a cab, and I am not happy about it. [Re: Repertoire89]
    #23643694 - 09/14/16 02:59 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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It's not enabling shitty service.

They realize "fuck I should've served them better, imagine how much better they would've tipped?"




Nah, I agree with California.

If they even think about it, its probably more like "hah, fuck that guy, he tipped me anyways."


Killing with kindness just makes you a sucker.
Most people don't give a shit.




There was actually one time, when I was bartending at a karaoke bar. This group of girls, I guess they were a black sorority party or bachelorette party or something, come in and get a table in the karaoke lounge. Now at this bar, you're supposed to pay $2 to buy a song ticket if you want to sing a song. A different table had put in some songs, and somehow this group of girls got the mic and were singing.

I could see the other customers were upset, and I assumed that the girls had stolen the songs from this person, so I went over and grabbed their mics and said that I was going to have to charge them by taking their song tickets they ordered for the songs they sang, because they took the songs from this other customer. I was kind of accusing them of stealing the songs from this other customer, so naturally they were upset.

I guess I didn't know that another server had given them the mics by accident, so they weren't at fault for singing those songs. Once I found out about 15 minutes later what happened, I went back to the table and explained the situation and apologized and reimbursed their song tickets.

I thought there's no way I'm going to get a good tip from this, but they ended up tipping me 30% (which is a lot on a $200 tab), and I felt instantly bad when they left that much. I should have played it cool and been nicer to them.

So yeah, killing with kindness absolutely can happen.


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    #23643704 - 09/14/16 03:05 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

You're the devil


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