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GoverNator Kills the Homosexual Hope
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I don't know what to think. people can do what they want to do...but i do not think that the legal marriage of homosexuals and lesbins is a proper idea.and should not be allowed...one you have same sex marriages...then you get "triads" (three people getting married) then who knows maybe human animal marriage....there are unusual people in world... :eyemouth:


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Re: GoverNator Kills the Homosexual Hope [Re: NostraTaurus]
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These are the end times. Things like these HAVE to happen otherwise it just would'nt be the end times.  :devil:


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Re: GoverNator Kills the Homosexual Hope [Re: NostraTaurus]
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I could really care less if the people want to allow homsexual marriage. Whatever happens happens. I think it should be a state's decision, but then you run into problems when they want to recognized for tax purposes, and I'm not really sure what the answer is there. I really haven't thought that deeply about it.

The problem I have is that this Mayor of San Diego and judges who have decided they'll do whatever they want regardless of the law.


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I keep it real because I think it is important that a highly esteemed individual such as myself keep it real lest they experience the dreaded spontaneous non-existance of no longer keeping it real. - Hagbard Celine

Edited by HagbardCeline (02/20/04 11:01 PM)

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Re: GoverNator Kills the Homosexual Hope [Re: NostraTaurus]
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Quote:
NostraTaurus said:
I don't know what to think. people can do what they want to do...but i do not think that the legal marriage of homosexuals and lesbins is a proper idea.and should not be allowed...one you have same sex marriages...then you get "triads" (three people getting married) then who knows maybe human animal marriage....there are unusual people in world... :eyemouth:



I see nothing wrong with any of the forms of marriage you mention.  Would you mind telling us what's wrong with two consenting adult males getting married?  I don't see how it harms anyone else.


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"It is dangerous to be right when the government is wrong."--Voltaire

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Re: GoverNator Kills the Homosexual Hope [Re: NostraTaurus]
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"triads"???is that possable? Please stae your reason why same sex marriges should be illegal? I don't see a problem wiht it, like silversoul said it doesn't hurt anybody. Your right the world does have "unusual" people in it, don't have to accpet it, but it would be good to tolerate it.


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Re: GoverNator Kills the Homosexual Hope [Re: NostraTaurus]
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The government should recognise marriage and civil unions between two or more people the same as any other contract.

That's all marriage type arrangements should be as far as the government is concerned, business contracts.

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Re: GoverNator Kills the Homosexual Hope [Re: Baby_Hitler]
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same sex marriage is not unconstitutional.

therefore it should be allowed.

therefore I call those who try to stop it "CRIMINALS!"


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Re: GoverNator Kills the Homosexual Hope [Re: Strumpling]
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Just for the record...i am not discriminatory against gays and lesbians it is just there are alot of other issues that come along with the their legal rights. But thankyou for responding to this post...that is what i wanted. And the truth is, there is not really a conclusion to this mess of ignorant and byast opions. (not that yours are)


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Re: GoverNator Kills the Homosexual Hope [Re: NostraTaurus]
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Please be more specific. What other issues come along with their legal rights? Does it infringe upon others' legal rights?


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Re: GoverNator Kills the Homosexual Hope [Re: NostraTaurus]
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I spoke of my views on another forum, so I'll add the veiws of someone else with whom I was discussing this issue.

He said that when you start blurring the lines, anything goes.

If you're going to allow marriage between people of the same sex, who want equality, what about the guy who wants to marry his dog, or other bizarre types of marriages.

He said the lines have to be drawn somewhere, and shouldn't be moved or society will start to fall apart.


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The day will come when, after harnessing the ether, the winds, the tides, gravitation, we shall harness for God the energies of love. And, on that day, for the second time in the history of the world, man will have discovered fire.  -Teilard

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Re: GoverNator Kills the Homosexual Hope [Re: Frog]
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If you're going to allow marriage between people of the same sex, who want equality, what about the guy who wants to marry his dog, or other bizarre types of marriages.



Well, what about him? How is he hurting anyone? Of course, I'm not sure the dog would be able to give consent, so that might present a problem.

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He said the lines have to be drawn somewhere, and shouldn't be moved or society will start to fall apart.



Bullshit. Explain how two men getting married will lead to the downfall of society.


Here's my proposal:

You should be legally allowed to marry ANYONE as long as that person:

1. Is a legal adult(or has parental permission)

2. Can give informed consent


END OF STORY


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"It is dangerous to be right when the government is wrong."--Voltaire

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Re: GoverNator Kills the Homosexual Hope [Re: silversoul7]
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Only people should be allowed to marry. People can't marry dogs and claim them as a dependent, people can't mayr non-person entities, like a corporation.

Society's not going to fall apart over something as trivial as polygamy and gay marriage.

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Re: GoverNator Kills the Homosexual Hope [Re: Baby_Hitler]
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Only reasonably good looking intelligent people should be allowed to marry and/or reproduce.


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You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers

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Re: GoverNator Kills the Homosexual Hope [Re: luvdemshrooms]
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luvdemshrooms said:
Only reasonably good looking intelligent people should be allowed to marry and/or reproduce.



Now that would lead to the downfall of American society.  Who would be left? :lol:


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Re: GoverNator Kills the Homosexual Hope [Re: luvdemshrooms]
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All hot chicks should be required by law to reproduce with me.

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Re: GoverNator Kills the Homosexual Hope [Re: NostraTaurus]
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bun di chi-chi
*burn the homoz*
with my rusty AK


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Re: GoverNator Kills the Homosexual Hope [Re: Strumpling]
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Strumpling said:
same sex marriage is not unconstitutional.

therefore it should be allowed.

therefore I call those who try to stop it "CRIMINALS!"



californians passed a ballot measure banning same sex
marriages in the state.

this is law, passed by a vote.

the san francisco judges are breaking the law.

I read a funny quote in the LA Times this morning....

Schwartzenator supposedly wrote a strong worded
note to Attorney General Bill Lockyer demanding that
he find resolution to this and stop the san francisco
marriages.

The spokesman for Lockyer's office said something to
the affect of:

Governor Schwartzenator cannot command the
AG to do anything. He can direct the highway patrol,
he can direct Terminator 4, but he cannot tell an
independantly elected AG what to do.

it was pretty funny...I thought.


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Re: GoverNator Kills the Homosexual Hope [Re: barfightlard]
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bellylard said:
"triads"???is that possable? Please stae your reason why same sex marriges should be illegal? I don't see a problem wiht it, like silversoul said it doesn't hurt anybody. Your right the world does have "unusual" people in it, don't have to accpet it, but it would be good to tolerate it.




This might be hard for you to undertsand, but in America, we don't do whatever sounds like the most cuddly lovable hug the world postion, we do this really stupid thing called "Voting", and hte people in CAlifornia voted to not let homosexuals marry, and thei are going directly against that. You want a "reason"? A vote, the MAJORITY of the people don't want it.

I realize, again, that this concept is far above the capacity of a great number of people to understand, libbies do love their thinking with emotions rather than logic and knowledge of the law

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Re: GoverNator Kills the Homosexual Hope [Re: TheOneYouKnow]
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We also have a thing called a "Constitution" in this country which was designed to protect liberty against the tyranny of the majority.


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Re: GoverNator Kills the Homosexual Hope [Re: silversoul7]
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silversoul7 said:
We also have a thing called a "Constitution" in this country which was designed to protect liberty against the tyranny of the majority.



You are for the popular vote, you are against the popular vote....

Which one is it, fence-hoppin'-soul?

If the vast majority of the people don't want to encourage relationships which historically contribute more to the growing AIDS epidemic, nto to mention the 'moral decline' of America, isn't that the thing we should do?

OF COURSE NOT!

DEMOCRAT DEMOCRACY = The will of teh whiniest, not the will of the majority!

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