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Re: TiT grow w/ pictures. How am I doing? (Updates) [Re: Supalemonhaze]
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I warned you Supa... Told you to take it easy or you'd lose your shit, now you're all tense, blowing up at everybody, next month you'll finally just be like "Fuck you, use the search engine you fucking fuck".


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Re: TiT grow w/ pictures. How am I doing? (Updates) [Re: Inocuole]
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There is three vectors of contamination in ops prep....the syringe, the grain prep or the bulk material....

I'm leaning towards overly saturated bulk which causes this since the initial run was doing very well up until I seen those pictures yesterday. Had I seen that uncolonized portion before I'd have been on the bacteria boat too..
.which I was up until the first splotch colonized.

There was never a magic wand to be waved at ops tub.



They say this is bacteria too :smirk:

OP got fruits but he needs to take the advice and clean up a culture on agar since ms mycelium always behaves differently. Sorry op, you do still have edible fruits though....they're not sickly looking.


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Re: TiT grow w/ pictures. How am I doing? (Updates) [Re: HybridprX]
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Just stop trying to diagnose his problems. You are making a fool out of yourself.

His problem was BACTERIAL SPAWN :facepalm:

SloppyJoseph said:
I expected to see a completely different fruiting chamber.. but your setup looks pretty good honestly. Conditions look ok in there, maybe loosen top poly a tad but not too much it looks fine.

You problem isn't with your conditions or your setup. Your spawn was bacterial. You can tell by the thick stringy aerial mycelium before you cased, and by the thick white aerial mycelium popping up through the casing. Just be patient, you will get a flush out of that at least. But don't expect it to live long after that before it turns green or something.


Literally the first fucking post of this thread

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Re: TiT grow w/ pictures. How am I doing? (Updates) [Re: SloppyJoseph]
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healthy MS still looks healthy, bacterial grows looks bacterial no matter if its MS or "You isolated on agar first" :rolleyes:

When a newb OP schools you this hard its time to start :takingnotes: and stop trying to give advice..


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Re: TiT grow w/ pictures. How am I doing? (Updates) [Re: spacechildo]
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Yeah there's just a point when you stop trying to convince hybrid, but here's my last try. All I can say is that the tub hybrid put up looks pretty awful. Lumpy, bubbly and altogether shitty.


Mad Season said:
This is what it's supposed to look like when your surface is uneven



What you have is classic bacteria. Cottage cheese look, thick, and the bubbles are the myceliums reaction to bacteria. Tomentose looks wispy and thin. Not thick and bubbly. As seen in the pic above.

blindingleaf said:
bacteria on WKZ culture.  both plates started off looking rhizo/normal, but as they aged, several sprouts popped up, and the second plate, u can see the edges of the growth are bubbling up in response to bacteria.  these are both from same clone, same day.



another one (slight bacteria/hidden something), matazapec, MS, unfruited


compare to a very clean Penis envy culture




And notice there's different types of growth. Both tomentose and rizmorphic. That is what healthy MS looks like.


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Re: TiT grow w/ pictures. How am I doing? (Updates) [Re: Mad Season]
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Mad Season....you could say the same about this....

But it turned into this...



Mycelium behaves differently on bulk material....it never looks like how it is on a petri dish.


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Re: TiT grow w/ pictures. How am I doing? (Updates) [Re: HybridprX]
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:facepalm:

Right your 27% BE tub proved me wrong.


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Re: TiT grow w/ pictures. How am I doing? (Updates) [Re: Inocuole]
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IF it fruits, it's not bacterial. Joke of the year.

Inocuole said:
I warned you Supa... Told you to take it easy or you'd lose your shit, now you're all tense, blowing up at everybody, next month you'll finally just be like "Fuck you, use the search engine you fucking fuck".


Nah, I'm immune to hybrid by now, he doesn't even phase me anymore. :lol: BO baffled me though, wasn't expecting that from someone I thought knew his shit.


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Re: TiT grow w/ pictures. How am I doing? (Updates) [Re: Supalemonhaze]
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You can't even apply b/e to ms... I'm not even concerned about it to be honest...

Besides it was 4 L of wbs to 1.5L coir.... and I never said you couldn't get fruits from a bulk sub with bacteria. Anyways...that 68 L tub is pinning...


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Re: TiT grow w/ pictures. How am I doing? (Updates) [Re: HybridprX] * 1
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BE can so be applied to MS. I can easily consistently see at least 80%.

But I get it. It's pinning again. Show it off when you see it finished. I did tell you that it was only slightly bacterial. Not entirely covered in it, so I really wouldn't be surprised if you see multiple flushes. But mycelium always bubbles to bacteria regardless of genetics. Tomentose although can be thick, it doesn't look rubbery and thick. It's wispy. You can deny it all you want, that's just how it goes.


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Re: TiT grow w/ pictures. How am I doing? (Updates) [Re: HybridprX]
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HybridprX said:
You can't even apply b/e to ms...


Oh, no? :facepalm:

I don't even calculate B/E but I still aim for the best I can get (meaning clean spawn).  Some of us want to improve our grows, you know.


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Re: TiT grow w/ pictures. How am I doing? (Updates) [Re: HybridprX]
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HybridprX said:
You can't even apply b/e to ms... I'm not even concerned about it to be honest...

Besides it was 4 L of wbs to 1.5L coir.... and I never said you couldn't get fruits from a bulk sub with bacteria. Anyways...that 68 L tub is pinning...


I really need to know where these things you say are coming from. Of course you can calculate the bio efficiency of any grow. Your comment about isolates isn't even relevant. I think I see what you're saying, but it doesn't matter.

You're thinking in terms of "well, the BE isn't as good this grow with this isolate (which I know can bust out 150% BE), so I must have a contaminate. But this is irrelevant.

Even with an MS grow, you should strive for 100%+ BE. Any less means you had bacterial spawn. This is pretty much a fact--I've been noticing this simply by tracking my grows. Sure, it's possible you get crap genetics and only get 75% from pristine spawn, but it's highly unlikely.

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Re: TiT grow w/ pictures. How am I doing? (Updates) [Re: dankington]
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IMO it's not bacteria that's giving him such low return on BE or grain spawn or however you like to see it,
rather poor fruiting conditions, it really lacks in FAE, just up the air flow in the tub.

2oz return on 4 litres/qts of spawn should be concering ya!


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Re: TiT grow w/ pictures. How am I doing? (Updates) [Re: HybridprX]
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HybridprX said:
You can't even apply b/e to ms...


God damn it... Seriously?  Seriously??  Dude... Just stop talking.


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Re: TiT grow w/ pictures. How am I doing? (Updates) [Re: Inocuole]
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:thatsallfolks:


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Re: TiT grow w/ pictures. How am I doing? (Updates) [Re: Inocuole]
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Inocuole said:
Dude... Just stop talking.


If only.


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Re: TiT grow w/ pictures. How am I doing? (Updates) [Re: Supalemonhaze]
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7/16 ish Pictures

Just a photo dump update, picked the first flush and watered and poured out some water in the tub, and started a second batch that I know is heavily bacterial but I want to see what will come of it. It's worth a try right? I did the second tub with daemons 50/50 tek.

                                 

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Re: TiT grow w/ pictures. How am I doing? (Updates) [Re: Spore211215]
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looks like you pulled a couple nice doses. Now time for a dunk and hope that bacteria doesn't prevent a second flush


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Re: TiT grow w/ pictures. How am I doing? (Updates) [Re: SloppyJoseph]
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so many aborts...so dry
why are people letting their subs get so fuckin dry lately? I get that it's hot out,
water them bitches!

Dank said it best, I got thirsty just looking at it.

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Re: TiT grow w/ pictures. How am I doing? (Updates) [Re: the_r3dz]
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Nice go on the fruits op.... I doubt you will get a 2nd flush off of that though....hopefully you collected spore prints.


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