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TiT grow w/ pictures. How am I doing? (Updates)
#23387960 - 06/27/16 02:40 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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Hey guys, I'm growing a quart of grain spawn into some pasteurized manure (Roughly 1:1 ratio) and just wanted to get everyone's thoughts. I believe I threw this batch together on 6/11 and cased it on 6/26 and I'm thinking I'm having a few problems. It looks like I'm not getting enough FAE and I may be misting and/or fanning this tub too much. I know you aren't supposed to mist or fan them but I think I'm worrying too much and need some advice that would help. It looks like I am getting a lot of aerial mycelium and want to know if there are better ways to combat it. I have my polyfill packed very lightly and try to keep the casing moist. I cased it on 6/26 cause i was worried about my mycelium and wasn't sure when the right time was, but it seemed like the time to. Also I notice that it is warm inside the tub whenever I fan it, I assume that's normal but just wanted to add that.
Let me know how I'm doing and if there are any other things I should or shouldn't do. Thanks!
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6/28 Pictures
Things aren't looking too happy for my tub This morning and afternoon I misted the sides of the monotub but not the sub, it looked like I've been misting it a lot the past days and is still hydrated. I also fanned the tub when i misted it the 2 times today. When i came back from work it looked like the tub didn't have much humidity in it so i packed some more polyfill into the top 2 holes to hopefully keep it up. I try to keep posting pictures every day so we can see what happens :(

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6/29 Pictures
Things are pretty much status quo on the aerial / funny mycelium growth. I've yet to see anything that points towards pinning or knotting but I'm not worried yet.
My question for today is how do my evaporation rings / tub humidity look to you guys? I misted the tub (walls, not substrate) at 6am and gave it a little fanning came back about 4pm (10hrs later) to see this much evaporation. My room had its windows open and the ceiling fan on its lowest setting to circulate the air. I would also like to add in that it is like 3 inches away from my wall in my room in the last picture, I know this is not ideal but it is how I have to have it for the time being. This is why I like to fan and mist it often because I understand it is in less than ideal conditions.
Just after I just go back to take these pictures I fanned and misted the walls AND substrate this time because it finally looked like it was starting to dry up. Still smells fine and the heat has seemed to get a bit lower these past 12 or so hours.

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6/30 Pictures
Things are going as they were before. I've stopped misting the mono since yesterday afternoon, I don't plan on misting either of them unless I am told / read otherwise. I understand that this is a mono and I shouldn't need to fan it, but with it being close to the wall and whatnot, but should I try to keep bringing in FAE or just let it do its thing. I do not know its status of colonization so I'm not sure exactly what is best for the tub right now.
I re-packed my tub as this thread says and hopefully will have it tuned in soon enough. I think the casing is close to being done with mycelium growth on it but that's just a guess.
After I took a shower last night I was starting to get a little disheartened with my project, but I still want to do my best with this one and start to improve what I'm doing.

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7/1 Pictures
Doesn't look like much has changed, but the tub is getting more dry. The myc is still looking moist from spraying it the other day, and its growth is seeming to slow down. Hopefully things will pick up in the next few days and ill start to see some action from the sub! Let me know if I need to bump up the humidity or whatever else and ill keep on track with these pictures.
Hopefully ill get some new grain going soon and try to start a new batch. I'm in a situation where I have to do stealth shroom operations and my best options are to do spore syringes to pre made grain bags (I know, I know, its my best option right now IMO) and then go to this mini bulk. I have the materials for a SAB but need to make it before this next project. Any thoughts on how to still have a stealth op and do better than syringe to grain? Would LC be feasible? Thanks guys.
Also i'll read this shit show of comments a bit later. Things went to hell pretty quick in a day i guess haha. I respect what HybridprX is going for but i cant say i agree with him at all. Thank you for all the support and uplifting words all of you!

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7/2 Pictures
Not too much to say this time. I sprayed the walls because I'm an anxious fuck and got some water on the mycelium. With all this contam I can't tell what stage I'm at so I don't know if I should water or whatnot.
I'll be camping this weekend so hopefully I'll see some progress by then end of the day on 7/4.

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7/5 Pictures
Starting to see some metabolites 

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7/6 Pictures
I came in from this weekend with some sadness since I saw no progress. I thought things were pretty bleak and expected to go to a new grow pretty soon.
Then today came! I see some beautiful pins! (Pic 2 and 5) I'm looking forward to the next 24 to 48 hours to see what is going to be of this possible first flush. I'm going to take care of this baby and hopefully get so great results!
I also noticed the start of some of what I think is mold. (Pic 3, kind of hard to see the difference from the metabolites [Pic 4] but i assure you it is more of a green tint) I know it is inevitable for the mold to not overtake my tub, but can I do anything to slow it down? I know H2O2 can do something, I just cant remember what its use is (Like only for bacteria or whatnot) and im not trying to douse my tub in peroxide when it could possibly do nothing or hurt it. Thanks everyone and expect many more pics in the next week or so. (Probably 1 picture dump every day around when I get home from work)

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7/8 Pictures
Things seem to be going slower than I expected, but other than that everything seems to be going well. I need to adjust the polyfill and I just came to realize I have a huge problem with my lid that I have a fix for.
I realized the pivotal problem in my tub. The top has vents in it that circumvent the polyfill. My next day will show my fix. Also I saw my polyfill was a mess, I tightened it up on bottom and mad the top thin but still good.

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7/9 Pictures
I put plastic wrap over the top of the tub after I misted what looked like a dry casing. I can already see humidity on top of the tub collecting and can't wait to see what comes of this new idea. I really should have thought of this a long time ago but it hadn't crossed my mind till last night. Hopefully things will be looking up after these next 12 to 24 hours!

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7/13 Pictures
Just wanted to throw up an update of sorts. I made an LC from one of my spore syringes (I can't do agar as of now so this was what i wanted to go with) and my tub is getting there! It's a bit blue because I fucked up hard and let it get really dry one day when i had my fan on too high with my lid cracked. I have done my best to clean it up and it seems to be mostly unaffected my the one day. Since this came from MS i have some weird genetics but i sure do love this big guy in the corner. This LC is coming along well, before i shook it today it was coming along very nicely. I started the LC this sunday and im happy with where its coming along. Temps in my room have been ranging from 75 to 84 ish through the week but always with good air flow in it.

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7/16 ish Pictures
Just a photo dump update, picked the first flush and watered and poured out some water in the tub, and started a second batch that I know is heavily bacterial but I want to see what will come of it. It's worth a try right? I did the second tub with daemons 50/50 tek.

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Re: TiT grow w/ pictures. How am I doing? [Re: Spore211215] 1
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I expected to see a completely different fruiting chamber.. but your setup looks pretty good honestly. Conditions look ok in there, maybe loosen top poly a tad but not too much it looks fine.
You problem isn't with your conditions or your setup. Your spawn was bacterial. You can tell by the thick stringy aerial mycelium before you cased, and by the thick white aerial mycelium popping up through the casing. Just be patient, you will get a flush out of that at least. But don't expect it to live long after that before it turns green or something.
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Re: TiT grow w/ pictures. How am I doing? [Re: SloppyJoseph]
#23388027 - 06/27/16 03:10 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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Yeah the bacterial issues aren't a nail in the coffin. I got an ounce or two from a jar of bacterial mycelium once, had the same looking mycelium growth your pan does.
The warmer temperature is normal, the heat a full canopy of mushrooms gives off is impressive. Mycelium generates heat. Concerning misting, just mist when you don't have little glistening water beads on the surface. If your substrate surface looks moist, just leave it be. You may be fanning it too much, cause your substrate surface is a little dry. The biggest pinning trigger is the loss of moisture at substrate level. Keep this thread updated with pictures of the mushroom fruits so the community can inform you of any FAE issues.
Below I have attached pictures of what this looks like:
  
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Re: TiT grow w/ pictures. How am I doing? [Re: Perception7]
#23388344 - 06/27/16 04:58 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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That's not bacteria...that's extremely rhizmphoric mycelium.... it should yeild very nicely op.
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Re: TiT grow w/ pictures. How am I doing? [Re: HybridprX]
#23388548 - 06/27/16 06:02 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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No, it's bacterial. Sorry, there is no such thing as "extremely" rhizomorphic. When it is a solid white color, and it spikes up out of the casing like that, it has bacterial issues. His pictures before casing isn't 100% healthy because healthy rhizomorphic mycelium doesn't raise off of the surface of the sub and ball up at the end.
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Re: TiT grow w/ pictures. How am I doing? [Re: Spore211215]
#23391312 - 06/28/16 02:50 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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6/28 Pictures
Things aren't looking too happy for my tub This morning and afternoon I misted the sides of the monotub but not the sub, it looked like I've been misting it a lot the past days and is still hydrated. I also fanned the tub when i misted it the 2 times today. When i came back from work it looked like the tub didn't have much humidity in it so i packed some more polyfill into the top 2 holes to hopefully keep it up. I try to keep posting pictures every day so we can see what happens  
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Re: TiT grow w/ pictures. How am I doing? [Re: Spore211215]
#23391429 - 06/28/16 03:48 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Yep, bacteria.
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Re: TiT grow w/ pictures. How am I doing? [Re: Spore211215]
#23391442 - 06/28/16 03:54 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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That's aggressive mycelium but your tub doesn't look fully colonized either..
I think you fruited to soon....
Usually Trich will show long before bacteria bloom sets in....if it smells like fresh mycelium when you mist and fan your in the clear.
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Re: TiT grow w/ pictures. How am I doing? [Re: HybridprX]
#23391452 - 06/28/16 03:59 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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HybridprX said: That's aggressive mycelium but your tub doesn't look fully colonized either..
I think you fruited to soon....
Usually Trich will show long before bacteria bloom sets in....if it smells like fresh mycelium when you mist and fan your in the clear.
Your ratings are starting to make sense...
Trich doesn't reliably get the memo every single time there's bacteria and in fact there'll probably still be some good fruits out of it, but that is in fact bacterial, no two ways about it.
The problem with the cultivation scene for years, or hell, decades even, is that everybody always had bacterial substrates and nobody thought much of it. Well that shit is over.
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Re: TiT grow w/ pictures. How am I doing? [Re: Inocuole]
#23391458 - 06/28/16 04:01 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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HybridprX said: That's aggressive mycelium but your tub doesn't look fully colonized either..
I think you fruited to soon....
Usually Trich will show long before bacteria bloom sets in....if it smells like fresh mycelium when you mist and fan your in the clear.
Your ratings are starting to make sense...
Trich doesn't reliably get the memo every single time there's bacteria and in fact there'll probably still be some good fruits out of it, but that is in fact bacterial, no two ways about it.
The problem with the cultivation scene for years, or hell, decades even, is that everybody always had bacterial substrates and nobody thought much of it. Well that shit is over.
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Re: TiT grow w/ pictures. How am I doing? [Re: SloppyJoseph]
#23391484 - 06/28/16 04:08 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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That makes no sense to me.... spores do not produce bacteria...
If bacteria is present in the bulk substrate it's because of improper pasteurization or contaminated spawn...
I know myc can fruit in the presence of bacteria but that's not bacteria bloom in the pictures he posted... that's what I was saying....and mycelium is known to spike the surface and overlay if the co2 is to high...especially on coir.
It does look off but it's to hard to say if it's due to bacteria from the spawn or if it was left to wet....overly wet bulk is the number one problem for bacteria.
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Re: TiT grow w/ pictures. How am I doing? [Re: SloppyJoseph]
#23391496 - 06/28/16 04:14 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Bacteria is the biggest cause of bacteria. Not to mention bacteria doesn't necessarily mask the scent of the mycelium... So such a blanket statement as "if it smells like myc it's good to go" is begging to be rejected.
I've had plenty of wet substrates not go bacterial like that. It's also stupid easy to get it to field capacity so there's no excuse for it being too wet.
It has... bacteria.
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Re: TiT grow w/ pictures. How am I doing? [Re: Inocuole]
#23391551 - 06/28/16 04:29 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Inocuole said: Bacteria is the biggest cause of bacteria. Not to mention bacteria doesn't necessarily mask the scent of the mycelium... So such a blanket statement as "if it smells like myc it's good to go" is begging to be rejected.
I've had plenty of wet substrates not go bacterial like that. It's also stupid easy to get it to field capacity so there's no excuse for it being too wet.
It has... bacteria.
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HybridprX said: That makes no sense to me.... spores do not produce bacteria...
Sorry to jack ops thread but does this look bacterial to you?


The yellowing is overlay from applying a coir layer....bad decision on my end.
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Re: TiT grow w/ pictures. How am I doing? [Re: HybridprX]
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Inocuole said: Bacteria is the biggest cause of bacteria. Not to mention bacteria doesn't necessarily mask the scent of the mycelium... So such a blanket statement as "if it smells like myc it's good to go" is begging to be rejected.
I've had plenty of wet substrates not go bacterial like that. It's also stupid easy to get it to field capacity so there's no excuse for it being too wet.
It has... bacteria.
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HybridprX said: That makes no sense to me.... spores do not produce bacteria...
Sorry to jack ops thread but does this look bacterial to you?


The yellowing is overlay from applying a coir layer....bad decision on my end.
Oh okay you got overlay on cubes and that's what it is instead of bacteria. God damn it... What really fucks with me is that you're probably being serious right now..
To answer the question, fuck yes that's bacteria.
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Re: TiT grow w/ pictures. How am I doing? [Re: HybridprX]
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Inocuole said: Bacteria is the biggest cause of bacteria. Not to mention bacteria doesn't necessarily mask the scent of the mycelium... So such a blanket statement as "if it smells like myc it's good to go" is begging to be rejected.
I've had plenty of wet substrates not go bacterial like that. It's also stupid easy to get it to field capacity so there's no excuse for it being too wet.
It has... bacteria.
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HybridprX said: That makes no sense to me.... spores do not produce bacteria...
Sorry to jack ops thread but does this look bacterial to you?


The yellowing is overlay from applying a coir layer....bad decision on my end.
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Re: TiT grow w/ pictures. How am I doing? [Re: Spore211215]
#23391668 - 06/28/16 05:14 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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So I am all on board with the fact that there is bacteria inside my tub, but I was wondering where I should go from here. I have high hope and low expectations for this tub but still want to get the best I can out of it. I will continue to post pictures to update my grow but is there anything I can do about this? Or is it past the point of no return and I just have to keep my sub as happy as possibly till it hopefully fruits then possibly goes bad? And thanks for all the replies guys!
My sub is smelling good, seems to be giving off the same amount of heat, and the casing is staying moist from all the spraying I have done to it (since yesterday afternoon, no spraying the sub since then) but isn't having beads on it. Should I keep it misted to where it has beads or let it go till it looks not very wet / approaching dry (If my tub isn't working properly yet) them mist it? I'm trying my best to tune my tub in, I adjusted the polyfill again and I'm watching the results now.
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Re: TiT grow w/ pictures. How am I doing? [Re: Spore211215]
#23391671 - 06/28/16 05:14 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Just let it hang, keep the conditions good, see what it does. Let the beads of moisture disappear and then replace them.
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Re: TiT grow w/ pictures. How am I doing? [Re: Inocuole]
#23391672 - 06/28/16 05:15 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Inocuole said: Just let it hang, keep the conditions good, see what it does. Let the beads of moisture disappear and then replace them.
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Re: TiT grow w/ pictures. How am I doing? [Re: SloppyJoseph]
#23391765 - 06/28/16 05:44 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Last time I checked it was pinning...
Op....bacteria multiplies very quickly giving off a odor...if it's not stinking then you're fine.
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Re: TiT grow w/ pictures. How am I doing? [Re: HybridprX]
#23391787 - 06/28/16 05:52 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Seriously, this guy's advice has been shit since he got here in 2008. Check his ratings. He's been called out on it for EIGHT years and is still giving shitty advice. I would just ignore anything he has to say.
Bacteria doesn't always smell. Half of the time that it does, it doesn't stink, it smells sweet. The easiest way to spot bacteria is by reading the morphology of the mycelium and/or the presence of metabolites.
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Re: TiT grow w/ pictures. How am I doing? [Re: Inocuole]
#23391804 - 06/28/16 05:58 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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A odor of anything other then fresh mushrooms is normally a nail in the coffin.... you will be able to tell a bacteria infection if the mushrooms are scrany since the mycelium is fighting it....I wouldn't eat those personally. ...
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Re: TiT grow w/ pictures. How am I doing? [Re: HybridprX]
#23391859 - 06/28/16 06:28 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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HybridprX your info is all messed up brother, don't talk if u know nothing, do a little research next time you feel like commenting lol.
And Inocuole is 100% right, and i agree with him with what he said, i passed my microbiology class due to members like him. 
You can see bacteria easily in this jar, and look at how the mycelium's morphology changed, this is just an example:
And spore guy, don't worry its just bateria, it will fruit, this is a pic of that spawn i showed in bulk, its already fruiting and looks healthy:

If it pins soon enough for you, you can clone and work your way to a clean culture, its a very easy process.
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Re: TiT grow w/ pictures. How am I doing? [Re: Teemo 6T3]
#23391900 - 06/28/16 06:47 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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If it's a multi spore inoculation you have a bunch of different growth....rhizmphoric mycelium like that is not a sign of bacteria, it's mixed genetics.
If mycelium recovers after shaking the grain jar it is clean...if the tub with odd multispore growth shows Ariel mycelium it is not a sign of bacteria... metabolites are a sure sign and the sweet/sour odor is another. If it smells sweet/sour before full colonization then it's done.... if it smells like fresh mushrooms don't worry... you did use ms so both their arguments are null and they're looking like puppets of someone's ego.
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#23391910 - 06/28/16 06:50 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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OP, Inocuole is your savior. HybridprX obviously has no idea what he is talking about. You have bacteria, guaranteed, 100%. The fact that he is still arguing this when multiple veteran cultivators have said otherwise is just laughable. No, that kind of growth is NEVER good. It is not genetic diversity at all. HybridprX is very confused and misinformed.
The best course of action with bacteria is to just ignore it like its not there. You can get fruits more often than not.
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Re: TiT grow w/ pictures. How am I doing? [Re: Munchauzen]
#23392048 - 06/28/16 07:44 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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yeah bacteria is real easy to spot once you get some experience and know what to look for. MS inoculation,not having shaken the jar yet, none of this leads to bacteria. bacteria does. its very common to have in grows to some extent, when it goes real bad you can spot it easily as here, you can also see lowered yields on known cultures and it usually takes longer for the sub to colonize.
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Re: TiT grow w/ pictures. How am I doing? [Re: HybridprX]
#23392084 - 06/28/16 07:59 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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HybridprX said: If mycelium recovers after shaking the grain jar it is clean....
Is this a generalization or can it be used to guarantee clean spawn for a master before expanding or spawning? (assuming 100% recovery)
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HybridprX said: If mycelium recovers after shaking the grain jar it is clean....
Is this a generalization or can it be used to guarantee clean spawn for a master before expanding or spawning? (assuming 100% recovery)
A jar can recover while still being bacterial. Until you know what bacterial affected cube mycelium looks like, no. It's not a guarantee.
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Re: TiT grow w/ pictures. How am I doing? [Re: SloppyJoseph]
#23392105 - 06/28/16 08:05 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Bummer.... more to learn as always.
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Re: TiT grow w/ pictures. How am I doing? [Re: HybridprX]
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HybridprX said: If it's a multi spore inoculation you have a bunch of different growth....rhizmphoric mycelium like that is not a sign of bacteria, it's mixed genetics.
If mycelium recovers after shaking the grain jar it is clean...if the tub with odd multispore growth shows Ariel mycelium it is not a sign of bacteria... metabolites are a sure sign and the sweet/sour odor is another. If it smells sweet/sour before full colonization then it's done.... if it smells like fresh mushrooms don't worry... you did use ms so both their arguments are null and they're looking like puppets of someone's ego.
Most bacteria don't even give off a smell. Your info is shit. I have never been able to sniff out a contam, bacteria or otherwise but I sure as shit did loose grows because of them. A strange smell can confirm that you have bacteria but what it can't do is guarantee that your jar is clean when you don't have it.
The grows being multispore doesn't even matter, you can easily see the reaction of the stressed mycelium once you are able to spot a bacterial contam. The only time you can't learn how to spot a bacteria contam is when you are too stubborn to admit you have it. Just because a tub fruits, doesn't make it healthy.
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Re: TiT grow w/ pictures. How am I doing? [Re: Supalemonhaze]
#23392768 - 06/29/16 12:22 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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oh god this guy. I remember thinking the same shit as him. People get paid big bucks by mushroom farmers for clean spawn, and I guarantee there's more to it than if it's white and smells good... a kindergartener can do that.
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Re: TiT grow w/ pictures. How am I doing? [Re: Spore211215]
#23394472 - 06/29/16 02:38 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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6/29 Pictures
Things are pretty much status quo on the aerial / funny mycelium growth. I've yet to see anything that points towards pinning or knotting but I'm not worried yet.
My question for today is how do my evaporation rings / tub humidity look to you guys? I misted the tub (walls, not substrate) at 6am and gave it a little fanning came back about 4pm (10hrs later) to see this much evaporation. My room had its windows open and the ceiling fan on its lowest setting to circulate the air. I would also like to add in that it is like 3 inches away from my wall in my room in the last picture, I know this is not ideal but it is how I have to have it for the time being. This is why I like to fan and mist it often because I understand it is in less than ideal conditions.
Just after I just go back to take these pictures I fanned and misted the walls AND substrate this time because it finally looked like it was starting to dry up. Still smells fine and the heat has seemed to get a bit lower these past 12 or so hours.
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Re: TiT grow w/ pictures. How am I doing? [Re: Spore211215]
#23394515 - 06/29/16 02:51 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Inoc said something once along the lines of:
I hope one day you're found in the desert, dying of thirst. The rescuers take you to a nice room with a/c, and when they ask if you're thirsty, they proceed to spray the walls around you with water. Only then will you see the irony in your statement.
Very much paraphrased.
I guess what I mean in, walls don't need water.
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Re: TiT grow w/ pictures. How am I doing? [Re: dankington]
#23394552 - 06/29/16 03:01 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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(I usually come of as a dick when I say things but never mean it like that, so if I sound like im being an asshole it because I have poor word choice)
The reason I misted the walls of the mono but not the substrate was because I wanted to keep the humidity up but i knew that the sub still has a bunch of moisture in it and didn't want to keep it waterlogged. Is that wrong or what should I be doing different?
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Re: TiT grow w/ pictures. How am I doing? [Re: dankington]
#23394567 - 06/29/16 03:06 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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dankington said: Inoc said something once along the lines of:
I hope one day you're found in the desert, dying of thirst. The rescuers take you to a nice room with a/c, and when they ask if you're thirsty, they proceed to spray the walls around you with water. Only then will you see the irony in your statement.
Very much paraphrased.
I guess what I mean in, walls don't need water.
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Re: TiT grow w/ pictures. How am I doing? [Re: Spore211215]
#23394590 - 06/29/16 03:16 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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You shouldn't mist your sub yet. Not until it's at 100% really. If anything, you misting the walls shows that the rings around your top and bottom poly are looking just fine. So you can tell everyone to stick it
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Re: TiT grow w/ pictures. How am I doing? [Re: Spore211215]
#23394613 - 06/29/16 03:23 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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It's better to just dial it in better.
Also, your tray's quite bacterial.
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Re: TiT grow w/ pictures. How am I doing? (Updates) [Re: Spore211215]
#23397600 - 06/30/16 01:37 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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6/30 Pictures
Things are going as they were before. I've stopped misting the mono since yesterday afternoon, I don't plan on misting either of them unless I am told / read otherwise. I understand that this is a mono and I shouldn't need to fan it, but with it being close to the wall and whatnot, but should I try to keep bringing in FAE or just let it do its thing. I do not know its status of colonization so I'm not sure exactly what is best for the tub right now.
I re-packed my tub as this thread says and hopefully will have it tuned in soon enough. I think the casing is close to being done with mycelium growth on it but that's just a guess.
After I took a shower last night I was starting to get a little disheartened with my project, but I still want to do my best with this one and start to improve what I'm doing.
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Re: TiT grow w/ pictures. How am I doing? (Updates) [Re: Spore211215]
#23397641 - 06/30/16 01:48 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Never loose hope bro, and if this doesn't succeed, never give up, and learn from your mistakes rather than being disheartened.
Btw the casing isn't supposed to be colonised, but since its already in fruiting conditions i guess the mycelium just couldn't resist colonising it, either way, just leave it be for now.
Bacteria could be on your side and encourage the mycelium to fruit just like my tub.
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Re: TiT grow w/ pictures. How am I doing? (Updates) [Re: Teemo 6T3]
#23397756 - 06/30/16 02:34 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Damn those are some serious crystals.. Haven't seen them like that in a while, you should still get something out of that though, dude.
And when I case at spawn my casing always colonizes. But you cased after 100% so it shouldn't be as colonized as that is. Don't sweat it though OP this might get good real soon...
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Re: TiT grow w/ pictures. How am I doing? (Updates) [Re: Teemo 6T3]
#23397758 - 06/30/16 02:35 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Op... the mycelium has colonized the portion of substrate I suspected may have been a bacteria splotch...if it colonized that means it's not bacteria...
The thicker growth is just aggressive mycelium from Ms but you do have some overlay.... other then that, seeing your tub today....your going to yeild a crop 100% for sure...
You have to be careful of the kids on this site from the pub section...they'll come on here and try to make the old time cultivators look stupid just for something to do....they're probably fat kids living at their mom's and dad's that Jerk off to porn all day and try to look smart by coining new terms.. fuck what those guys told you....look at my gallery... I know what I'm talking about.
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Re: TiT grow w/ pictures. How am I doing? (Updates) [Re: HybridprX]
#23397771 - 06/30/16 02:39 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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HybridprX said: The thicker growth is just aggressive mycelium from Ms but you do have some overlay....
oh god. aggressive myc that grows extra slow? and overlay? the casing layer isnt even colonized.. Pulling of cube grows doesnt automatically make you know shit about bacteria.. that's a moot point.
The reason you get facepalmed left right and center isn't because everyone here but you is a fat kid living with their mom, its simply your posts that are worthy..
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Re: TiT grow w/ pictures. How am I doing? (Updates) [Re: HybridprX]
#23397787 - 06/30/16 02:47 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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HybridprX said: The thicker growth is just aggressive mycelium from Ms but you do have some overlay....
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Re: TiT grow w/ pictures. How am I doing? (Updates) [Re: SloppyJoseph]
#23397884 - 06/30/16 03:18 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Spore - thanks for the images. I am new to bulk growing and bacterial issues as well and the pictures will help me identify this kind of thing in the future. By the way, I would put money down on your tubs giving you some fruits.
If you stay on this forum and keep reading a lot in a few months you will have more mushrooms then you know what to do with - it happened to me
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Re: TiT grow w/ pictures. How am I doing? (Updates) [Re: HybridprX]
#23397920 - 06/30/16 03:47 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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HybridprX said: Op... the mycelium has colonized the portion of substrate I suspected may have been a bacteria splotch...if it colonized that means it's not bacteria...
The thicker growth is just aggressive mycelium from Ms but you do have some overlay.... other then that, seeing your tub today....your going to yeild a crop 100% for sure...
your mycelium can very well keep colonizing with meshed-in bacteria. That's what those crazy growths protruding from the substrate are. Bacterial mycelium. Overlay? Really??
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RogerRabbit said: Overlay is bullshit and most of it relates to a picture of a normal casing layer in TMC that is incorrectly labeled as overlay.
A few months ago, I 'jokingly' said I'd ban the next person who asked an overlay question and it worked . . .until now. 
What happens is one person asks about overlay, and for the next six months, every new grower thinks he has overlay.
I can guarantee you don't have it, since I've only seen it a handful of times, and I've been known to have grown a few projects in my day. Full colonization of the casing layer is not overlay. Give lots of fresh air and light, while misting a few times daily and you'll fruit soon. RR
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You have to be careful of the kids on this site from the pub section...they'll come on here and try to make the old time cultivators look stupid just for something to do....they're probably fat kids living at their mom's and dad's that Jerk off to porn all day and try to look smart by coining new terms.. fuck what those guys told you....look at my gallery... I know what I'm talking about.
What are you on about, dude? Typically when someone throws out insults like that, I usually just think their butt hurts from being proven so wrong. But do whatever you want.
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Re: TiT grow w/ pictures. How am I doing? (Updates) [Re: dankington]
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Re: TiT grow w/ pictures. How am I doing? (Updates) [Re: HybridprX]
#23398083 - 06/30/16 04:36 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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HybridprX said: Op... the mycelium has colonized the portion of substrate I suspected may have been a bacteria splotch...if it colonized that means it's not bacteria...
The thicker growth is just aggressive mycelium from Ms but you do have some overlay.... other then that, seeing your tub today....your going to yeild a crop 100% for sure...
You have to be careful of the kids on this site from the pub section...they'll come on here and try to make the old time cultivators look stupid just for something to do....they're probably fat kids living at their mom's and dad's that Jerk off to porn all day and try to look smart by coining new terms.. fuck what those guys told you....look at my gallery... I know what I'm talking about.
Hey, get fucked old timer. Cubes don't get fucking overlay. Bacteria doesn't stop mycelium colonizing 100% of the time. Stop it with this shit. 8 years of bad ratings isn't enough I see...
Also here's your "from the pub".
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/percent.php?who=264321
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Re: TiT grow w/ pictures. How am I doing? (Updates) [Re: Inocuole]
#23398131 - 06/30/16 04:48 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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And i've never even entered the pub  https://www.shroomery.org/forums/percent.php?who=333322
I don't know what that guy is on about, but thats the reason i deleted my comment before, kinda stupid arguing with a boosted penguin
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Re: TiT grow w/ pictures. How am I doing? (Updates) [Re: Teemo 6T3]
#23398152 - 06/30/16 04:52 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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HybridprX said: look at my gallery... I know what I'm talking about.
The one you're not even sharing?
How about look at my gallery, and compare it to Hybridfux invisible noob gallery probably full of bacterial substrates that he won't admit are bacterial. I have actual mushrooms in mine and I actually acknowledge when they're bacterial.
Homeboy calls shit like this overlay:

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Re: TiT grow w/ pictures. How am I doing? (Updates) [Re: Inocuole]
#23398180 - 06/30/16 04:59 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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HybridprX said: look at my gallery... I know what I'm talking about.
The one you're not even sharing?
LOL, that's exactly what i was thinking, i was like the fuck, hmm, lets check his gallery... minutes later NOPE, i was just laughing like what the actual fuck is this guy on about.
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Re: TiT grow w/ pictures. How am I doing? (Updates) [Re: Inocuole]
#23398188 - 06/30/16 05:01 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Homeboy thinks shit like this is healthy and tries to sarcastically call it off as bacteria
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HybridprX said: That is a perfect picture jar of "bacteria bloom" .... thank you op.
>.> what? It's a pin mold. I mean it could have bacteria, but it's obviously covered in a pin mold.
Then didn't actually know what a pin mold is, yet he thinks he's so experienced. Uber 
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Re: TiT grow w/ pictures. How am I doing? (Updates) [Re: Mad Season]
#23398194 - 06/30/16 05:02 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Posted 22 hours ago...
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HybridprX said: What is pin mold?
I've never read about or experienced it.... I've seen cobweb, Trich, black mold, lipstick mold and wet spot bacteria...
Oh yeah, totally qualified to give advice on contams.
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Re: TiT grow w/ pictures. How am I doing? (Updates) [Re: Inocuole]
#23398206 - 06/30/16 05:06 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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HybridprX said: Op... the mycelium has colonized the portion of substrate I suspected may have been a bacteria splotch...if it colonized that means it's not bacteria...
The thicker growth is just aggressive mycelium from Ms but you do have some overlay.... other then that, seeing your tub today....your going to yeild a crop 100% for sure...
You have to be careful of the kids on this site from the pub section...they'll come on here and try to make the old time cultivators look stupid just for something to do....they're probably fat kids living at their mom's and dad's that Jerk off to porn all day and try to look smart by coining new terms.. fuck what those guys told you....look at my gallery... I know what I'm talking about.
Hey, get fucked old timer. Cubes don't get fucking overlay. Bacteria doesn't stop mycelium colonizing 100% of the time. Stop it with this shit. 8 years of bad ratings isn't enough I see...
Also here's your "from the pub".
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/percent.php?who=264321

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Re: TiT grow w/ pictures. How am I doing? (Updates) [Re: Inocuole]
#23398208 - 06/30/16 05:06 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Ops is going to fruit....why? Because it smells like mushrooms....mine that I shared in this thread is also pinning nicely with a 6 inch deep substrate....
I'm being a moron for even posting to ease ops mind that he does not have bacteria...it's ms growth and it has a splotch of overlay....no biggie...and of course some of the old info on this site is stupid because "some" of it was made up by users just like yourselves...
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Re: TiT grow w/ pictures. How am I doing? (Updates) [Re: HybridprX]
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Re: TiT grow w/ pictures. How am I doing? (Updates) [Re: HybridprX]
#23398230 - 06/30/16 05:10 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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dude.. how many times has it been said that you can get fruits even with a bacterial tub? just getting fruits does not mean you dont have bacterial problem.
Also, again, this was said more than three times, you can have bacteria even if all you smell is fresh healthy mushroom smell.
i just dont understand what you dont get at this point. Im kinda starting to think youre just trying to troll and get a rise out of inoc and the rest.
Mad just beat me to it, but as he said, no one here ever told OP to toss anything, or that he wouldnt get any fruits..
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Re: TiT grow w/ pictures. How am I doing? (Updates) [Re: HybridprX]
#23398233 - 06/30/16 05:11 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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HybridprX said: Ops is going to fruit....why? Because it smells like mushrooms....mine that I shared in this thread is also pinning nicely with a 6 inch deep substrate....
I'm being a moron for even posting to ease ops mind that he does not have bacteria...it's ms growth and it has a splotch of overlay....no biggie...and of course some of the old info on this site is stupid because "some" of it was made up by users just like yourselves...
Cubes are simple.
You do realize nobody has said to toss it or that it's not going to fruit.. they're saying it's obviously stressed due to bacteria, and keep an eye on it. Also the yield will be shitty compared to what it could have been.. This isn't news here. Maybe for you. But this has been shown and proven over and over. Here's my take on it.
Oh and cubensis doesn't overlay. That's been repeated tons in this thread alone.
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http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/21890806#21890806 bacteria in spawn. You can also get it from prepping the substrate too wet. If you read in the link it explains what happened when I spawned bacterial spawn.
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/remlinker.php?Cat=&Entry=149430&F_Board=22&Thread=21936821&Main=21936535
Read both of those thoroughly.
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Re: TiT grow w/ pictures. How am I doing? (Updates) [Re: Inocuole]
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Damn Mad season, i love that middle pic in your sig, just realised it... looks amazing.
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>.> what? It's a pin mold. I mean it could have bacteria, but it's obviously covered in a pin mold.
Then didn't actually know what a pin mold is, yet he thinks he's so experienced. Uber 
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/22629047
That's totally mycelium guys what wrong with you..... KAPPAA 
Who said bacteria was a bad thing? were just pointing it out, nothing bad with bacteria.
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Re: TiT grow w/ pictures. How am I doing? (Updates) [Re: mupetmower]
#23398241 - 06/30/16 05:13 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Just noticed I have 30 pub posts, fucking sockadin and his moved threads  https://www.shroomery.org/forums/percent.php?who=294089&bare=1 still a lower pub post % than hybrid has tho 
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Re: TiT grow w/ pictures. How am I doing? (Updates) [Re: Teemo 6T3]
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bacteria can for sure be a bad thing. it isnt always the end of the world, but it can lead to a lot worse that just a slight yield loss.
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Re: TiT grow w/ pictures. How am I doing? (Updates) [Re: mupetmower]
#23398257 - 06/30/16 05:16 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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bacteria lowers yields and can allow mold to get a foothold on the weakened sub, hybrid's just making straw man arguments to make himself look smart. We've all seen pics where trich has taken over 2/3s of the sub and there's still mushrooms. same with bacteria.
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Re: TiT grow w/ pictures. How am I doing? (Updates) [Re: mupetmower]
#23398266 - 06/30/16 05:18 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Ye my bad, didn't clearly state what i meant lol
I meant the beneficial bacteria that survive pasteurisation
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Re: TiT grow w/ pictures. How am I doing? (Updates) [Re: Teemo 6T3]
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Re: TiT grow w/ pictures. How am I doing? (Updates) [Re: mupetmower]
#23398284 - 06/30/16 05:21 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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The fact you can be here for 8 years and STILL think overlay is a common thing that happens to cubes is astounding.. The only way to do that is to completely ignore the posts that refute it, every single time, for years. This dude's gotta be a brick wall by now, that's some serious mental conditioning..
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Re: TiT grow w/ pictures. How am I doing? (Updates) [Re: Inocuole]
#23398291 - 06/30/16 05:23 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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man.. i just dont get why some people just can't admit they are wrong. it's not hard. no one is going to hate you for it, or anything. but doing stuff like this will only hurt in the end.
And, i mean.. its not like its such a terrible thing to be wrong, sometimes. everyone is wrong sometimes. and if you can't admit it, then you can and will never grow.
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Re: TiT grow w/ pictures. How am I doing? (Updates) [Re: mupetmower]
#23398296 - 06/30/16 05:24 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Re: TiT grow w/ pictures. How am I doing? (Updates) [Re: Mad Season]
#23398323 - 06/30/16 05:34 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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= all of us. that's why we never get anything to grow. 
I get upset when I only get 100%BE, hybridprix. How about you?
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Re: TiT grow w/ pictures. How am I doing? [Re: HybridprX]
#23398394 - 06/30/16 05:54 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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OP, your tub looks bacterial. Not only is the myc growing out aerial, but it's also got that foamy looking myc mixed in with it. Quote:
HybridprX said:
Sorry to jack ops thread but does this look bacterial to you?


The yellowing is overlay from applying a coir layer....bad decision on my end.
Looks bacterial for the same reason as OP's. Not as bacterial as OP's, but still bacterial.
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Re: TiT grow w/ pictures. How am I doing? [Re: SpitballJedi]
#23398399 - 06/30/16 05:56 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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you sure its not just cube overlay???
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Re: TiT grow w/ pictures. How am I doing? [Re: mupetmower]
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Re: TiT grow w/ pictures. How am I doing? [Re: SpitballJedi]
#23398415 - 06/30/16 06:01 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Hey HybridPrick, you sorry you said anything yet? Learn to accept that you are wrong, and stop fighting with the entire community when we say this is text book bacterial mycelium acting up. You honestly don't know jack shit. Nameste.
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Re: TiT grow w/ pictures. How am I doing? [Re: SloppyJoseph]
#23398424 - 06/30/16 06:04 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Re: TiT grow w/ pictures. How am I doing? (Updates) [Re: SpitballJedi]
#23398453 - 06/30/16 06:15 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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I'm arguing by stating my experience as a home cultivator...I've had to have personally seen (in ten+ years) at least 20 projects to to waste because of contaminates.... ops project is multispore... mixed genetics produce different mycelium.....this is basic knowledge here on shroomery.
I just tossed two jars due to bacteria...they did not recover.
In the presence of bacteria mycelium does form a wall around the area and it becomes very thick and dense and you invitro fruit from the jar like the one user posted.
But....you cannot safely spawn it to bulk without contamination.... there for, ops bulk is is 100 complete and it is a case of overlay..
At first I suspected the uncolonized portion was due to a bacteria contaminate but now that we all see that it has colonized then clearly there was no bacteria present in the spawn or else it would be sour feet smell all the way.
The Ariel mycelium is common in high humidity, op has adjusted this....his tray has come along since then..
It does not have bacteria...
I suppose your the same group of folks that had the "dunk your grain spawn" thread going to...? 3 failures attributed to that.....
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Re: TiT grow w/ pictures. How am I doing? (Updates) [Re: HybridprX]
#23398470 - 06/30/16 06:19 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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i think he is just trolling..
its been explained to you why that is misinformation over and over again.
EDIT - and why, exactly, can you not dunk grain spawn? plenty of people do it with success. so, please, enlighten us. just because you fail doing something, does not mean that it was attributed to the tek you followed.
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Re: TiT grow w/ pictures. How am I doing? (Updates) [Re: HybridprX]
#23398478 - 06/30/16 06:23 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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so you're basically saying you cant recognize bacteria unless there's so much of it it wont even colonize the grains... man you have a lot of learning to do, the pic of overlay in TMC is not overlay, that's wrong and Stamets admits so. overlay looks like a thick layer of ice all over your sub, not parts of the sub colonized by bacterial myc.
You keep saying bacteria WILL smell, when in fact it MIGHT smell. most bacterial jars will recover and look all white in a week. healthy spawn takes 2 days tops.
dunking your grains doesnt cause contaminations either
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Re: TiT grow w/ pictures. How am I doing? (Updates) [Re: spacechildo]
#23398506 - 06/30/16 06:28 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Yes, Hybridprix, it sounds like you only call it bacteria when it's totally inundated. But there are different levels of infection, just as there are shades of grey in many things. This is an example of fairly heavy bacterial infection, and it should still produce fruits, though at a sub-par level. Say a BE of 30-50% tops. IE about 10-15g or so per qt. of spawn. That's really low. If your spawn is clean, 100% BE is pretty much your minimum production.
It's simply this: we try and be better than just okay. You know?
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Re: TiT grow w/ pictures. How am I doing? (Updates) [Re: HybridprX]
#23398508 - 06/30/16 06:29 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Quote:
HybridprX said: I'm arguing by stating my experience as a home cultivator...I've had to have personally seen (in ten+ years) at least 20 projects to to waste because of contaminates.... ops project is multispore... mixed genetics produce different mycelium.....this is basic knowledge here on shroomery.
I just tossed two jars due to bacteria...they did not recover.
In the presence of bacteria mycelium does form a wall around the area and it becomes very thick and dense and you invitro fruit from the jar like the one user posted.
Fact: Sometimes it gets all foamy looking like yours and OP's pics.
But....you cannot safely spawn it to bulk without contamination.... there for, ops bulk is is 100 complete and it is a case of overlay..
100% false. I, and many others, including people in this very thread, have fruited bacterial subs. There are few people that claim to have had some of the best fruiting ever with bacterial tubs. Also, you don't actually know what overlay looks like. You don't have overlay and neither does th OP. You are talking complete shit.
At first I suspected the uncolonized portion was due to a bacteria contaminate but now that we all see that it has colonized then clearly there was no bacteria present in the spawn or else it would be sour feet smell all the way.
Fact: Often, myc will continue to colonize and fruit even in the presence of bacteria.
The Ariel mycelium is common in high humidity, op has adjusted this....his tray has come along since then..
This is true. But, this is not what is causing his. It looks different than aerial myc caused by low FAE.
It does not have bacteria...
100% false. It is bacterial
I suppose your the same group of folks that had the "dunk your grain spawn" thread going to...? 3 failures attributed to that..... Red herring. Besides, lots of people do it. Is it fail proof? no. Do you have any evidence to support failure being caused by dunking spawn? No, you don't. It's a red herring anyway.
You are completely full of shit and have no idea what you are talking about. It's obvious you are just trolling because nobody on this forum is this idiotic.
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Re: TiT grow w/ pictures. How am I doing? (Updates) [Re: spacechildo]
#23398516 - 06/30/16 06:31 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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I've dunked my grains on every one of my grows. I've never lost a tub before the first flush due to trich. Check out my gallery bro. If I lost it after the first flush it was BECAUSE OF BACTERIA THAT LOOKED LIKE OPs.
Now once again, because now we are babying at this point...
This is not a different phenotype of mycelium due to MS. Thats retarded that you think this is common knowledge. Its not even a thing. If you say OVERLAY one more time I want to start a ban petition for you for trolling.
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Re: TiT grow w/ pictures. How am I doing? (Updates) [Re: SpitballJedi]
#23398520 - 06/30/16 06:33 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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idk, spitball... there are some really, reeeaaallllllyyyy s on here who like to
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Re: TiT grow w/ pictures. How am I doing? (Updates) [Re: SpitballJedi]
#23398523 - 06/30/16 06:33 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Thank god shroomery has a rating system so noobs know who to listen to.
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Re: TiT grow w/ pictures. How am I doing? (Updates) [Re: Teemo 6T3]
#23398527 - 06/30/16 06:34 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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the bad thing is, though, that you still see noobs listen to people's advice even when there are TC's saying it's wrong, and poster has 0 rating.
EDIT - usually because it is more something that they are wanting to hear, over something they need to hear, and do.
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Re: TiT grow w/ pictures. How am I doing? (Updates) [Re: mupetmower]
#23398528 - 06/30/16 06:35 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Those are the same noobs who will later have 0s themselves. That's clearly how hybridpricks got his start here, listening to posts about overlay and ignoring RR when he was here in his prime. Probably because RR hurt his feelings and therefore anyone who agrees with anything RR ever said is a "RR fanboy" and none of it can be correct because mr prix says so.
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Re: TiT grow w/ pictures. How am I doing? (Updates) [Re: mupetmower]
#23398531 - 06/30/16 06:36 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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or what's really unfortunate is this fellow has been here for so long, that any noob would probably not think he's been talking out his ass this whole time...
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Re: TiT grow w/ pictures. How am I doing? (Updates) [Re: Inocuole]
#23398532 - 06/30/16 06:36 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Re: TiT grow w/ pictures. How am I doing? (Updates) [Re: Teemo 6T3]
#23398543 - 06/30/16 06:40 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Aparently arguing with a bunch of like minded morons is what my night has come to but b/e can only be tested with a 100% isolate...2 spores....that form a fruiting strain.... I doubt any one of you has taken that amount of time unless your a career mushroom farmer (professional) ... there are so many variables regarding bacteria....true, none are relevant to ops project.
Op isn't going to take the time to buy a flow hood, build a lab or buy a microscope...he's trying his hand at multispore biology and it's doing OK by my standards and I enjoy brownies....there for I have mushrooms when I want them.... no one here is trying to start a lab.
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Re: TiT grow w/ pictures. How am I doing? (Updates) [Re: Mad Season]
#23398549 - 06/30/16 06:42 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Quote:
HybridprX said: Ops is going to fruit....why? Because it smells like mushrooms....

This guy is just...... 
Don't listen to this idiot OP, smell has no relevance on the health of mycelium. As far as the 10year old veteran, hybrid, is concerned, bacteria is only bacteria when there is so much of it that your jars won't colonize. According to him, you can only have a lot of bacteria, but never a small amount. According to him also, bacteria is only bacteria when it smells. This is all false, as proven by the real veterans of the shroomery. Hybrid is just a noob, no amount of growing can ever teach him what clean spawn looks like. If he didn't get it in 10years, he is not about to learn anytime soon. Growing cubes for 10 years means jack shit, apperantly
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Mad Season said: Homeboy thinks shit like this is healthy and tries to sarcastically call it off as bacteria
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Mad Season said:
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HybridprX said: That is a perfect picture jar of "bacteria bloom" .... thank you op.
>.> what? It's a pin mold. I mean it could have bacteria, but it's obviously covered in a pin mold.
Then didn't actually know what a pin mold is, yet he thinks he's so experienced. Uber 
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/22629047
Also, this is fucking hilarious. So much for being an experienced cultivator. Kinda makes me wanna stay a newb for the rest of my life
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Re: TiT grow w/ pictures. How am I doing? (Updates) [Re: HybridprX]
#23398559 - 06/30/16 06:45 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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HybridprX said: Aparently arguing with a bunch of like minded morons is what my night has come to but b/e can only be tested with a 100% isolate...2 spores....that form a fruiting strain.... I doubt any one of you has taken that amount of time unless your a career mushroom farmer (professional) ... there are so many variables regarding bacteria....true, none are relevant to ops project.
Op isn't going to take the time to buy a flow hood, build a lab or buy a microscope...he's trying his hand at multispore biology and it's doing OK by my standards and I enjoy brownies....there for I have mushrooms when I want them.... no one here is trying to start a lab.
You don't need a lab, a microscope or a FH to make clean spawn. Good sterile tek, a SAB and practice is all that is needed for most. By the way, I have only been growing for a year and I'm just about to get my first batch of isolates. You don't have to grow commercially to get isolates.
You sir, are just an idiot, doesn't matter when you post, with that mindset you will keep getting told off because everything you say is bullshit.
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Re: TiT grow w/ pictures. How am I doing? (Updates) [Re: HybridprX]
#23398568 - 06/30/16 06:48 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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HybridprX said: Aparently arguing with a bunch of like minded morons is what my night has come to but b/e can only be tested with a 100% isolate...2 spores....that form a fruiting strain.... I doubt any one of you has taken that amount of time unless your a career mushroom farmer (professional) ... there are so many variables regarding bacteria....true, none are relevant to ops project.
lol, you can calculate BE for any grow man, doesnt have to be an isolate to divide fresh mush output by dry weight used 
and you dont need a FH or lab or anything to keep bacteria down, you need good sterile tech, agar, and a simple SAB.
Right now I too am starting to believe you're just a simple troll...
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Re: TiT grow w/ pictures. How am I doing? (Updates) [Re: HybridprX]
#23398569 - 06/30/16 06:48 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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HybridprX said: Aparently arguing with a bunch of like minded morons is what my night has come to but b/e can only be tested with a 100% isolate...2 spores....that form a fruiting strain.... I doubt any one of you has taken that amount of time unless your a career mushroom farmer (professional) ... there are so many variables regarding bacteria....true, none are relevant to ops project.
Op isn't going to take the time to buy a flow hood, build a lab or buy a microscope...he's trying his hand at multispore biology and it's doing OK by my standards and I enjoy brownies....there for I have mushrooms when I want them.... no one here is trying to start a lab.
a lab? I can run two mini monos at a time and have way more than just enough for myself, with low spawn amounts. I'm talking, if I ran two 30qt. mono tubs, I could easily keep ~1/2lb. going pretty steadily using 2qt. of spawn per tub. This is thanks to good genetics, sure, but clean spawn too. In fact, I'm willing to wager the cleanliness of the spawn is more relevant than the genetics in the case of sub 100%BE yields.
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Re: TiT grow w/ pictures. How am I doing? (Updates) [Re: dankington]
#23398576 - 06/30/16 06:51 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Like minded morons, attack!

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Re: TiT grow w/ pictures. How am I doing? (Updates) [Re: SloppyJoseph]
#23398581 - 06/30/16 06:52 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Re: TiT grow w/ pictures. How am I doing? (Updates) [Re: dankington]
#23398590 - 06/30/16 06:53 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Shit, even with bacterial spawn, you can still get more shrooms than you can keep up with stictly for personal use. Having clean spawn is obviously that much better.
Just in case you missed it being said by others before, we are curious about what's in your imaginary public gallery, by the way.
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Re: TiT grow w/ pictures. How am I doing? (Updates) [Re: Supalemonhaze]
#23398600 - 06/30/16 06:56 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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You better believe we're interested in seeing the pictures to back up all this talk.
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Re: TiT grow w/ pictures. How am I doing? (Updates) [Re: Inocuole]
#23398614 - 06/30/16 07:00 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Bring forth, the canopies!
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Re: TiT grow w/ pictures. How am I doing? (Updates) [Re: Inocuole]
#23398621 - 06/30/16 07:02 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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one day when I grow up Imma have a canopy.
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Re: TiT grow w/ pictures. How am I doing? (Updates) [Re: Pastywhyte]
#23398627 - 06/30/16 07:03 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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one day when I grow up Imma have a canopy.
It's alright little guy, surely in another 4 years when you're not a TC anymore and you're on hybrid's level, you'll really pull some good grows. I'm rootin for ya.
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Re: TiT grow w/ pictures. How am I doing? (Updates) [Re: Teemo 6T3]
#23398628 - 06/30/16 07:03 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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I've got pins, op will get pins....
Listen to whoever to improve upon your technique....multispore is noon stuff but it produces some pretty wicked results but hard-core cultivator is taking the time to isolate down to two spores and maximizing the yeild....
If your ms ever yeild a canopy...clone it on agar.... it's a cutting corner...
These people would like you to see a isolate on agar for a future grow but it's not Nesscary at all... that's why they're distilling this fear and paranoia by under minding a experienced home grower....maybe I don't buy enough from the sponsors I'll donate a bill next month
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Re: TiT grow w/ pictures. How am I doing? (Updates) [Re: HybridprX]
#23398630 - 06/30/16 07:04 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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I'd just like to add that I've never had an isolate yet.
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Re: TiT grow w/ pictures. How am I doing? (Updates) [Re: Pastywhyte]
#23398632 - 06/30/16 07:05 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Well, I'd say if you didn't get one in 10 years, you might be waiting a while longer
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I've got pins, op will get pins....
Listen to whoever to improve upon your technique....multispore is noon stuff but it produces some pretty wicked results but hard-core cultivator is taking the time to isolate down to two spores and maximizing the yeild....

Isolating down to 2 spores? What kind of troll nonense are you saying? What does that even mean? Next you are going to tell us that you've only ever had 4 bacterias in your life
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Re: TiT grow w/ pictures. How am I doing? (Updates) [Re: HybridprX]
#23398645 - 06/30/16 07:08 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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HybridprX said:

I've got pins, op will get pins....
Listen to whoever to improve upon your technique....multispore is noon stuff but it produces some pretty wicked results but hard-core cultivator is taking the time to isolate down to two spores and maximizing the yeild....
If your ms ever yeild a canopy...clone it on agar.... it's a cutting corner...
These people would like you to see a isolate on agar for a future grow but it's not Nesscary at all... that's why they're distilling this fear and paranoia by under minding a experienced home grower....maybe I don't buy enough from the sponsors I'll donate a bill next month 
The fuck you on about? Plenty of cultivators worth their salt do multispore grows to get new clones. The only difference is that they do that with.. yep, you guessed it... CLEAN SPAWN.
There is nothing experienced about you, if after 10 years you can't tell a bacterial tub from a healthy tub, you might just as well be a newbie. People start to recognise bacterial tubs in their first 6 months of browsing the shroomery. You are an anomaly.
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Re: TiT grow w/ pictures. How am I doing? (Updates) [Re: HybridprX]
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holy shit dude. you really dont get it, do you? no one ever said you needed to create an isolate. you can grow with excellent BE using MS, but if you keep using bacterial spawn then it wont happen.
and you dont need an isolate to calculate BE. it's kinda sad that you have been here for 10 years, yet have very little knowledge to show for it.
EDIT - actually, this has got to be a troll. there is just no way that someone can be this ignorant. right?
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Re: TiT grow w/ pictures. How am I doing? (Updates) [Re: HybridprX]
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HybridprX said: These people would like you to see a isolate on agar for a future grow but it's not Nesscary at all... that's why they're distilling this fear and paranoia by under minding a experienced home grower....maybe I don't buy enough from the sponsors I'll donate a bill next month 
Literally.. nobody said any of that. I mostly use clones and limited MS which are extremely easy to get. Wtf is this about sponsors? I've spent maybe 40 bucks on sponsor supplies in the past 3 years. People who use good techniques and practices don't have to buy shit constantly. Interesting concept eh?
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Trolling or retarded, either way, definite psychological condition.
Hybrid you'll have to enlighten us how you got so lucky as to stumble across so many complete morons in one place. What are the chances?? Go buy a lottery ticket right now!
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Re: TiT grow w/ pictures. How am I doing? (Updates) [Re: dankington]
#23398665 - 06/30/16 07:12 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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I've got pins, op will get pins....
Listen to whoever to improve upon your technique....multispore is noon stuff but it produces some pretty wicked results but hard-core cultivator is taking the time to isolate down to two spores and maximizing the yeild....

Isolating down to 2 spores? What kind of troll nonense are you saying? What does that even mean? Next you are going to tell us that you've only ever had 4 bacterias in your life
Well, the only bacteria he could ever spot were the ones that smelled like death. I think 4 types of bacteria is not too far off the mark, if any.
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And you don't have to. There is nothing keeping you from doing anything in mycology, not a lab and not the need to grow commercially. If you want an isolate, you can get one. If not, just as good.
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Re: TiT grow w/ pictures. How am I doing? (Updates) [Re: Inocuole]
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We gotta get camplo in here, he'd be this guys only friend
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The 2 spore isolate shit had me
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Re: TiT grow w/ pictures. How am I doing? (Updates) [Re: SloppyJoseph]
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rofl, oh yeah...
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Re: TiT grow w/ pictures. How am I doing? (Updates) [Re: SloppyJoseph]
#23398680 - 06/30/16 07:16 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Okay guys its funny but lets keep it civilized. No need to derail the OP's log on his bacterial tub. Lets just sit back and chill. . .
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Re: TiT grow w/ pictures. How am I doing? (Updates) [Re: Pastywhyte]
#23398684 - 06/30/16 07:17 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Sorry OP.
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Re: TiT grow w/ pictures. How am I doing? (Updates) [Re: mupetmower]
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Carry on. OHHMMMM....OHHMMMM
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Not to take this even further off the subject but..... does buddha up there really has his penis exposed?
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Re: TiT grow w/ pictures. How am I doing? (Updates) [Re: Inocuole]
#23398700 - 06/30/16 07:21 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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This was ms of pink buffalo awhile back
 The tub was not fanned.... it had nothing to do with bacteria....
It's no picture perfect canopy which I've had from Ms before but no means for agar. ...but still... ops tub is a product of mycelium reaching the surface before full colonization.....poorly mixed spawn perhaps? Nothing to do with bacteria....the jar picture is a good example of mycelium sectoring off bacteria which I thought was happening in ops tub but clearly it's colonized....if it fruits poorly in that specific area op then it could be due to poor genetics but for spawn to colonize bulk the likely hood of a major bacteria contamination is not likely.....there is different levels which hinder performance but the golden rule is if it smells like mushrooms....you will get mushrooms.
No idea what these people are arguing with me about.
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Re: TiT grow w/ pictures. How am I doing? (Updates) [Re: SloppyJoseph]
#23398701 - 06/30/16 07:22 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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SloppyJoseph said: I expected to see a completely different fruiting chamber.. but your setup looks pretty good honestly. Conditions look ok in there, maybe loosen top poly a tad but not too much it looks fine.
You problem isn't with your conditions or your setup. Your spawn was bacterial. You can tell by the thick stringy aerial mycelium before you cased, and by the thick white aerial mycelium popping up through the casing. Just be patient, you will get a flush out of that at least. But don't expect it to live long after that before it turns green or something.
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And when I case at spawn my casing always colonizes. But you cased after 100% so it shouldn't be as colonized as that is. Don't sweat it though OP this might get good real soon...
Just gonna quote all of my relevant posts directed at OP so they don't get lost when he comes back to see this mess.
Keep going buddy, I've said it from the start I think you are gonna get some nice shrooms from this potentially. We will be rooting for you, no one is trying to rain on anyones parade except HybridprX
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Re: TiT grow w/ pictures. How am I doing? (Updates) [Re: SloppyJoseph]
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I'm gonna start calling 2012 "a while back" unironically now. If the best thing you can post is from 4 years ago then that confirms everything anybody needs to know.
Bacterial.... grows....can... produce... fruits.
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Re: TiT grow w/ pictures. How am I doing? (Updates) [Re: HybridprX]
#23398712 - 06/30/16 07:25 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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HybridprX said: This was ms of pink buffalo awhile back
The tub was not fanned.... it had nothing to do with bacteria....
It's no picture perfect canopy which I've had from Ms before but no means for agar. ...but still... ops tub is a product of mycelium reaching the surface before full colonization.....poorly mixed spawn perhaps? Nothing to do with bacteria....the jar picture is a good example of mycelium sectoring off bacteria which I thought was happening in ops tub but clearly it's colonized....if it fruits poorly in that specific area op then it could be due to poor genetics but for spawn to colonize bulk the likely hood of a major bacteria contamination is not likely.....there is different levels which hinder performance but the golden rule is if it smells like mushrooms....you will get mushrooms.
No idea what these people are arguing with me about.
What are you on about dude? Literally not making any sense.
And I can't believe you have "No idea why we are arguing with you" I don't think a broken record would have repeated something more times before any retard would come and turn it off. You are just being straight up wrong about literally everything that comes out of your mouth at this point.
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Re: TiT grow w/ pictures. How am I doing? (Updates) [Re: SloppyJoseph]
#23398714 - 06/30/16 07:25 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Just gonna quote all of my relevant posts directed at OP so they don't get lost when he comes back to see this mess.
Keep going buddy, I've said it from the start I think you are gonna get some nice shrooms from this potentially. We will be rooting for you, no one is trying to rain on anyones parade except HybridprX
You're a grade A fucking douche....I've been trying to tell op he's fine this entire time.
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Re: TiT grow w/ pictures. How am I doing? (Updates) [Re: HybridprX]
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HybridprX said: This was ms of pink buffalo awhile back
 The tub was not fanned.... it had nothing to do with bacteria....
It's no picture perfect canopy which I've had from Ms before but no means for agar. ...but still... ops tub is a product of mycelium reaching the surface before full colonization.....poorly mixed spawn perhaps? Nothing to do with bacteria....the jar picture is a good example of mycelium sectoring off bacteria which I thought was happening in ops tub but clearly it's colonized....if it fruits poorly in that specific area op then it could be due to poor genetics but for spawn to colonize bulk the likely hood of a major bacteria contamination is not likely.....there is different levels which hinder performance but the golden rule is if it smells like mushrooms....you will get mushrooms.
No idea what these people are arguing with me about.
Ok we get it, we're wrong and your right
Guys just ignore his upcoming comments, don't argue with a penguin, you'll never win.
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Re: TiT grow w/ pictures. How am I doing? (Updates) [Re: HybridprX]
#23398724 - 06/30/16 07:28 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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It is bacteria. The "mycelium" is not seperate strands, its shiny rigid linear bacteria. That is not something that is new info. Aerial mycelium is still in strands, not fused.
Poor FAE looks like this

Here is what the OP has. Excuse the RR quote.
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thetawave said: Still lots of growth in aerial mycelium, no pins...

That's contaminated with bacteria. If it were aerial mycelium, the strands would be individual, not all bundled up and shiny like that.
In the future, don't keep things so wet. Don't mist as soon as the sides of the terrarium dry out. The holes cause the sides and roof to dry out long before the cakes do. You got things too wet, and then kept them that way. I'd bury those in a shady spot outside in some well manured soil and hope for the best. RR
See the difference?
Granted the OP's tub is not that bad. But there is still bacteria in there. I imagine he will see a few flushes and get some fruits. But why not teach people how to do things better. Bacteria in spawn is a mold vector. Lets improve ourselves.
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Re: TiT grow w/ pictures. How am I doing? (Updates) [Re: HybridprX]
#23398754 - 06/30/16 07:38 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Keep going buddy, I've said it from the start I think you are gonna get some nice shrooms from this potentially. We will be rooting for you, no one is trying to rain on anyones parade except HybridprX
You're a grade A fucking douche....I've been trying to tell op he's fine this entire time.
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Re: TiT grow w/ pictures. How am I doing? (Updates) [Re: cronicr]
#23398794 - 06/30/16 07:48 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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You just quoted me and put HybridprX name in the quote box?
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no..that is his fucked up quote lol
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Re: TiT grow w/ pictures. How am I doing? (Updates) [Re: SloppyJoseph]
#23399053 - 06/30/16 09:00 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Re: TiT grow w/ pictures. How am I doing? (Updates) [Re: HybridprX]
#23399058 - 06/30/16 09:01 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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HybridprX said: Just gonna quote all of my relevant posts directed at OP so they don't get lost when he comes back to see this mess.
Keep going buddy, I've said it from the start I think you are gonna get some nice shrooms from this potentially. We will be rooting for you, no one is trying to rain on anyones parade except HybridprX
You're a grade A fucking douche....I've been trying to tell op he's fine this entire time.
Sloppy, this happened when I hit 'quote' on hybrid prick's quote.
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Re: TiT grow w/ pictures. How am I doing? (Updates) [Re: dankington]
#23399059 - 06/30/16 09:02 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Re: TiT grow w/ pictures. How am I doing? (Updates) [Re: SloppyJoseph]
#23399066 - 06/30/16 09:03 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Oh that's, ok. well
Fuck off Hybridprick. We've all been telling OP he is fine. But with stipulations. You god damn prick.
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Re: TiT grow w/ pictures. How am I doing? (Updates) [Re: SloppyJoseph]
#23399127 - 06/30/16 09:21 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Now ban Sloppy too since he doesn't know how to check himself either..
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Re: TiT grow w/ pictures. How am I doing? (Updates) [Re: Inocuole]
#23399131 - 06/30/16 09:24 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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already did as soon as he posted lol...just keep lining up folks.
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Re: TiT grow w/ pictures. How am I doing? (Updates) [Re: cronicr]
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Re: TiT grow w/ pictures. How am I doing? (Updates) [Re: Inocuole]
#23399473 - 06/30/16 11:26 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Munchauzen said: OP, Inocuole is your savior. HybridprX obviously has no idea what he is talking about. You have bacteria, guaranteed, 100%. The fact that he is still arguing this when multiple veteran cultivators have said otherwise is just laughable. No, that kind of growth is NEVER good. It is not genetic diversity at all. HybridprX is very confused and misinformed.
The best course of action with bacteria is to just ignore it like its not there. You can get fruits more often than not.
severely bacterial bottle grow:
 
Noob Question- Are those blue caps the result of the bacteria? If so, would you eat them?
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Re: TiT grow w/ pictures. How am I doing? (Updates) [Re: Wicked Burn]
#23399483 - 06/30/16 11:30 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Munchauzen said: OP, Inocuole is your savior. HybridprX obviously has no idea what he is talking about. You have bacteria, guaranteed, 100%. The fact that he is still arguing this when multiple veteran cultivators have said otherwise is just laughable. No, that kind of growth is NEVER good. It is not genetic diversity at all. HybridprX is very confused and misinformed.
The best course of action with bacteria is to just ignore it like its not there. You can get fruits more often than not.
severely bacterial bottle grow:
 
Noob Question- Are those blue caps the result of the bacteria? If so, would you eat them?
The blue caps are normal for APE
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Re: TiT grow w/ pictures. How am I doing? (Updates) [Re: Pastywhyte]
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Re: TiT grow w/ pictures. How am I doing? (Updates) [Re: Inocuole]
#23400219 - 07/01/16 07:45 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Re: TiT grow w/ pictures. How am I doing? [Re: Spore211215]
#23401493 - 07/01/16 03:29 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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7/1 Pictures
Doesn't look like much has changed, but the tub is getting more dry. The myc is still looking moist from spraying it the other day, and its growth is seeming to slow down. Hopefully things will pick up in the next few days and ill start to see some action from the sub! Let me know if I need to bump up the humidity or whatever else and ill keep on track with these pictures.
Hopefully ill get some new grain going soon and try to start a new batch. I'm in a situation where I have to do stealth shroom operations and my best options are to do spore syringes to pre made grain bags (I know, I know, its my best option right now IMO) and then go to this mini bulk. I have the materials for a SAB but need to make it before this next project. Any thoughts on how to still have a stealth op and do better than syringe to grain? Would LC be feasible? Thanks guys.
Also i'll read this shit show of comments a bit later. Things went to hell pretty quick in a day i guess haha. I respect what HybridprX is going for but i cant say i agree with him at all. Thank you for all the support and uplifting words all of you!
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Re: TiT grow w/ pictures. How am I doing? [Re: Spore211215]
#23401537 - 07/01/16 03:49 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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pre made grain bags are never a good option. if you cant fruit mushrooms dont grow mushrooms. look into sclerotia maybe
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Re: TiT grow w/ pictures. How am I doing? [Re: spacechildo]
#23401559 - 07/01/16 03:57 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Ill figure a way out to make grain or WBS work if I shouldn't be buying bags, I really want to see a growing mushroom from my labor. Ill PC some grains at a friends house if i need to, but im really interested in that method.
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Re: TiT grow w/ pictures. How am I doing? [Re: Spore211215]
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You will definitely get a few shrooms out of that bad boy... Patience man... Patience.
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Re: TiT grow w/ pictures. How am I doing? [Re: LocN9ne]
#23401629 - 07/01/16 04:22 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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LocN9ne said: You will definitely get a few shrooms out of that bad boy... Patience man... Patience.
I am sure i will see something out of it, i just know that what i am doing right now is not as good as i can possibly do it and want to achieve the best i can with my limited resources. And im am also a little bit anxious and wanting to see what comes of my first grow  Not having patience is a bit of a flaw i have and hopefully this hobby can help teach me to have some.
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Re: TiT grow w/ pictures. How am I doing? [Re: Spore211215]
#23401634 - 07/01/16 04:25 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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You need more projects going... Start doing agar and you will be too busy with that to even worry about tubs like you are worrying about this one...
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Re: TiT grow w/ pictures. How am I doing? [Re: LocN9ne]
#23401637 - 07/01/16 04:26 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Sidenote: how did you like that shitfest that your thread turned into for a couple pages there?
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Re: TiT grow w/ pictures. How am I doing? [Re: LocN9ne]
#23401645 - 07/01/16 04:27 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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depends how stealth he "needs" to be IMO, if you gotta hide it from "room mates" how are you gonna fruit it all and play with agar indisturbed? If its just from people visiting I agree 100% go for it.
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Re: TiT grow w/ pictures. How am I doing? [Re: spacechildo]
#23404490 - 07/02/16 04:05 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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That was a wild shit show it became real quick haha, apparently there is a lot of hate out for Hybrid. And stealth means i can PC grain at a friends and possibly make LC but doing agar work and whatnot isn't feasible. I have to do all spore / psilocin relation stuff at my house but precursors can be done elsewhere. So a semi-stealth type of deal. Also T-minus a minute or two for my next update
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Re: TiT grow w/ pictures. How am I doing? [Re: Spore211215]
#23404501 - 07/02/16 04:11 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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7/2 Pictures
Not too much to say this time. I sprayed the walls because I'm an anxious fuck and got some water on the mycelium. With all this contam I can't tell what stage I'm at so I don't know if I should water or whatnot.
I'll be camping this weekend so hopefully I'll see some progress by then end of the day on 7/4.
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Re: TiT grow w/ pictures. How am I doing? [Re: Spore211215]
#23405374 - 07/02/16 09:32 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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That bitch is blooming, and not in a good way. Give it lots of FAE, that will help with almost any sort of contam.
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Re: TiT grow w/ pictures. How am I doing? [Re: Supalemonhaze]
#23414307 - 07/05/16 04:33 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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7/4 Pictures

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Starting to see some metabolites 
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Re: TiT grow w/ pictures. How am I doing? [Re: Spore211215]
#23416561 - 07/06/16 10:48 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Might still give you something worth while. How long has this been in fruiting? Doesn't seem to have any knots so far from what I can tell from the pics.
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Re: TiT grow w/ pictures. How am I doing? [Re: Supalemonhaze]
#23416779 - 07/06/16 12:07 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Where's hybrid now... Does it look healthy still? Or is it just a little bit of overlay
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Re: TiT grow w/ pictures. How am I doing? [Re: SloppyJoseph]
#23416802 - 07/06/16 12:19 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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SloppyJoseph said: Where's hybrid now... Does it look healthy still? Or is it just a little bit of overlay 
Cubes don't get overlay. Just remove that word from your lexicon. RR claimed he saw it only twice, I doubt any of us will ever see true overlay.
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Re: TiT grow w/ pictures. How am I doing? [Re: Munchauzen]
#23416810 - 07/06/16 12:22 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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.... Come on Munch, that was obvious sarcasm.
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Re: TiT grow w/ pictures. How am I doing? [Re: Inocuole]
#23416968 - 07/06/16 01:31 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Not according to hybrid He's a pro on overlay.
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Re: TiT grow w/ pictures. How am I doing? [Re: Inocuole]
#23417008 - 07/06/16 01:45 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Poe's law 
I can't keep up with these threads...
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Re: TiT grow w/ pictures. How am I doing? [Re: Munchauzen]
#23417180 - 07/06/16 02:40 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Re: TiT grow w/ pictures. How am I doing? [Re: Munchauzen]
#23417183 - 07/06/16 02:40 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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7/6 Pictures
I came in from this weekend with some sadness since I saw no progress. I thought things were pretty bleak and expected to go to a new grow pretty soon.
Then today came! I see some beautiful pins! (Pic 2 and 5) I'm looking forward to the next 24 to 48 hours to see what is going to be of this possible first flush. I'm going to take care of this baby and hopefully get so great results!
I also noticed the start of some of what I think is mold. (Pic 3, kind of hard to see the difference from the metabolites [Pic 4] but i assure you it is more of a green tint) I know it is inevitable for the mold to not overtake my tub, but can I do anything to slow it down? I know H2O2 can do something, I just cant remember what its use is (Like only for bacteria or whatnot) and im not trying to douse my tub in peroxide when it could possibly do nothing or hurt it. Thanks everyone and expect many more pics in the next week or so. (Probably 1 picture dump every day around when I get home from work)
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Re: TiT grow w/ pictures. How am I doing? [Re: Spore211215]
#23417206 - 07/06/16 02:45 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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We told you 
how does it feel being a father 
And i don't see any mold, maybe someone else could come and identify if there is, cus i only see some strands of polyfil on the sub in pic 3
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Re: TiT grow w/ pictures. How am I doing? [Re: Teemo 6T3]
#23417211 - 07/06/16 02:49 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Teemo 6T3 said: We told you 
how does it feel being a father 
And i don't see any mold, maybe someone else could come and identify if there is, cus i only see some strands of polyfil on the sub in pic 3
It feels great haha. I always believed what you all were telling me (Except for Hybrid) but I was just kinda losing faith in myself. All of the positive words really kept my spirits high and I appreciate the support!
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Re: TiT grow w/ pictures. How am I doing? [Re: Spore211215]
#23417227 - 07/06/16 02:54 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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It's not mold, just the bacteria we've been talking about showing a little more aggressively. But (knock on wood) once pins show you have a great chance of pulling a flush now before any serious contamination happens. Nice work, Dude. You've been good with misting and keeping the conditions right it seems like.
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Re: TiT grow w/ pictures. How am I doing? [Re: SloppyJoseph]
#23417260 - 07/06/16 03:05 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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It could just be the more aggressive bacteria, it just seemed like more of a green tint in person and not on camera. Please ignore my super aggressive 99% casing 1% polyfill setup lol. Ill leave it to the people that know what they're talking about to say what it actually is though. 
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Re: TiT grow w/ pictures. How am I doing? [Re: Spore211215]
#23417271 - 07/06/16 03:08 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Bacteria can cause mycelium to produce yellow metabolites, and in certain situations mycelium bruises blue. So uh, if you've taken any art classes in your life, you probably know what they'd look like together in the same place. About like that really. My vote is still on bacteria, I don't see anything else going on yet.
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Re: TiT grow w/ pictures. How am I doing? [Re: Inocuole] 1
#23417376 - 07/06/16 03:38 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Grab the peroxide, pour it down the toilet. You'll thank yourself later. If you ever get cobweb mold, chances are you were not allowing enough FAE in. Prevention is better than cure, h202 has about 0 uses in mycology. Proper FAE is the best at preventing cobweb.
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Re: TiT grow w/ pictures. How am I doing? [Re: Supalemonhaze]
#23417418 - 07/06/16 03:47 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Supalemonhaze said: Prevention is better than cure,
dude, this. 100% true.
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Re: TiT grow w/ pictures. How am I doing? [Re: mupetmower]
#23426072 - 07/09/16 09:57 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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7/8 Pictures
Things seem to be going slower than I expected, but other than that everything seems to be going well. I need to adjust the polyfill and I just came to realize I have a huge problem with my lid that I have a fix for.
I realized the pivotal problem in my tub. The top has vents in it that circumvent the polyfill. My next day will show my fix. Also I saw my polyfill was a mess, I tightened it up on bottom and mad the top thin but still good.

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7/9 Pictures
I put plastic wrap over the top of the tub after I misted what looked like a dry casing. I can already see humidity on top of the tub collecting and can't wait to see what comes of this new idea. I really should have thought of this a long time ago but it hadn't crossed my mind till last night. Hopefully things will be looking up after these next 12 to 24 hours!
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Re: TiT grow w/ pictures. How am I doing? [Re: Spore211215]
#23426093 - 07/09/16 10:04 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Looking good bro!
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Re: TiT grow w/ pictures. How am I doing? [Re: Teemo 6T3]
#23426113 - 07/09/16 10:12 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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I can already see humidity on top of the tub collecting
What you are seeing is condensation and it's not an indication of humidity. It's just an indication that the inside of the tub is warmer than the room temp.
Just like how a cold drink will become sweaty once you take it out of the fridge.
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Re: TiT grow w/ pictures. How am I doing? [Re: Supalemonhaze]
#23426127 - 07/09/16 10:17 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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there's nothing wrong with a little air exchange coming through the sides of the lid. polyfil is only an adjuster, it doesnt filter air in any way.
your major problem is bacteria covering the entire pinning surface. not air coming in through the imperfect lid.
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Re: TiT grow w/ pictures. How am I doing? [Re: Supalemonhaze]
#23426137 - 07/09/16 10:20 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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I can already see humidity on top of the tub collecting
What you are seeing is condensation and it's not an indication of humidity. It's just an indication that the inside of the tub is warmer than the room temp.
Just like how a cold drink will become sweaty once you take it out of the fridge.
After reading that new Myth Hub thread I've come to understand that law of physics haha. I will probably still say that incorrectly for a small while but i understand it now haha.
I was just bringing that up because the tub wasn't really able to do that before when air was flowing too freely in and out that there couldn't be too much of a temperature difference. Regardless I am happy.
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Re: TiT grow w/ pictures. How am I doing? [Re: spacechildo]
#23426150 - 07/09/16 10:24 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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spacechildo said: there's nothing wrong with a little air exchange coming through the sides of the lid. polyfil is only an adjuster, it doesnt filter air in any way.
your major problem is bacteria covering the entire pinning surface. not air coming in through the imperfect lid.
I understand that. I'm not trying to filter out any air contaminants, I just want to make the best possible monotub with my my setup currently is. I can't do anything about the bacteria so I'm doing my best to keep the tub happy for what time I have it.
Please excuse me if I made it sound like anything other than that, I'm still new so odds are I won't communicate everything I want to say the right way for a little bit.
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Re: TiT grow w/ pictures. How am I doing? [Re: Spore211215]
#23426157 - 07/09/16 10:30 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Extra FAE is better than too little, especially when you have any kind of contam. The polyfill is to keep enough moisture in so you won't have to mist every hour or so. I do get condensation, especially in summer but just keep an eye out for signs of low FAE, it can do more harm than too much.
As long as you mist as needed, you can grow shrooms in open air very successfully, even in very low Rh.
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Re: TiT grow w/ pictures. How am I doing? [Re: Spore211215]
#23426158 - 07/09/16 10:30 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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it just seems you think of it as a problem, you even say "air flow too freely" which isnt really a problem at all but what you want. and I know there's a "tek" on shroomology that says you should weatherstrip your monos, been brought up here a cpl times and its just FYI..
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Re: TiT grow w/ pictures. How am I doing? [Re: spacechildo]
#23426187 - 07/09/16 10:47 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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I don't wan't to come off as a dick saying this but, (If i had done this tek to the T and not a tub in tub design) whats the point of a monotub anyway then? I understand they are great for bulk grows, but they lack tons of FAE and that what you guys are saying could help. I just don't know what would be best for my current tub.
I will do a 2 quart bulk grow from LC probably withing the next month or two and ill have an updated tub to work with that will be better.
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Re: TiT grow w/ pictures. How am I doing? [Re: Spore211215]
#23426199 - 07/09/16 10:53 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Spore211215 said: I don't wan't to come off as a dick saying this but, (If i had done this tek to the T and not a tub in tub design) whats the point of a monotub anyway then?
what tub in tub design? no FC's are tub-in-tub. what I'm saying is weatherstripping monos makes no sense and gives no benefit. point of the monotub is to adjust FAE with the poly, you can open all holes and have great fae for most actives, edibles and monos usually dont go together.
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Re: TiT grow w/ pictures. How am I doing? [Re: Spore211215]
#23426209 - 07/09/16 10:56 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Monos are perfect for FAE because you can dial them in however you like. As long as you follow the monotub tek to a T, lack of FAE will never be a problem if you dial it in properly.
For example in summer, the air is super stagnant over here, I've been dialing every hole with loose poly and I can still increase more FAE if I wanted to. If you ever have a lack of FAE problem with loose poly, you can always take the top poly out.
Lack of FAE is non existing with a mono unless it's an operator error.
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Re: TiT grow w/ pictures. How am I doing? [Re: Spore211215]
#23426218 - 07/09/16 11:01 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Spore211215 said: I don't wan't to come off as a dick saying this but, (If i had done this tek to the T and not a tub in tub design) whats the point of a monotub anyway then? I understand they are great for bulk grows, but they lack tons of FAE and that what you guys are saying could help. I just don't know what would be best for my current tub.
I will do a 2 quart bulk grow from LC probably withing the next month or two and ill have an updated tub to work with that will be better.
monotubs do not lack FAE. you are incorrect.
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Re: TiT grow w/ pictures. How am I doing? [Re: Munchauzen]
#23426226 - 07/09/16 11:05 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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What they all said. They're better than well any other chamber I've ever seen
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Re: TiT grow w/ pictures. How am I doing? [Re: Munchauzen]
#23426249 - 07/09/16 11:12 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Munchauzen said:
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Spore211215 said: I don't wan't to come off as a dick saying this but, (If i had done this tek to the T and not a tub in tub design) whats the point of a monotub anyway then? I understand they are great for bulk grows, but they lack tons of FAE and that what you guys are saying could help. I just don't know what would be best for my current tub.
I will do a 2 quart bulk grow from LC probably withing the next month or two and ill have an updated tub to work with that will be better.
monotubs do not lack FAE. you are incorrect.
Ok i mis-spoke on that one. What i meant was that the conventional monotub design has less air flow capabilities than the tub I am using, due to the fact that i have slits in my lid that GE can occur from. That may not be necessarily true but in my mind if the tubs are all things considered equal, that my tub has 2 more possible areas for GE. Not saying it is better or worse, just different.
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Re: TiT grow w/ pictures. How am I doing? [Re: Spore211215]
#23426281 - 07/09/16 11:20 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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wouldn't your tub have LESS air flow if you wrapped the lid seal in glad?
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Re: TiT grow w/ pictures. How am I doing? [Re: spacechildo]
#23426291 - 07/09/16 11:23 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Yes
The reason I did that was to try to get closer to the Monotub tek which doesn't have those slits in the lid.I'm not trying to make my tek any better or worse. I'm just trying to get my setup as close to the original tek.
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Re: TiT grow w/ pictures. How am I doing? [Re: Spore211215]
#23426307 - 07/09/16 11:31 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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aha, well you're still looking at it a bit wrong, you dont wanna copy what someone else does you wanna find out what works best for you! there is no universal setup, number of holes, size of holes, how tightly you stuff them etc.. try to get as much fresh air as possible to the point where you can still keep up with misting every other day.
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Re: TiT grow w/ pictures. How am I doing? [Re: Spore211215]
#23426309 - 07/09/16 11:31 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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The fact is that a lot of what you THINK is incorrect. You just need to do a LOT more reading and researching. There are so many errors in your posts. It's not a bad thing. You just need to do more research. It is only a bad thing when you can't admit it or see it yourself, and refuse to change it.
Good luck. Listen to all of these guys. They know what they are doing, and are trying to help.
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Re: TiT grow w/ pictures. How am I doing? [Re: mupetmower]
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Re: TiT grow w/ pictures. How am I doing? [Re: Spore211215]
#23427100 - 07/09/16 04:30 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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You should look into Unmodified monotubs, they work like a charm, and im sticking with it tbh lol
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Re: TiT grow w/ pictures. How am I doing? (Updates) [Re: Teemo 6T3]
#23437978 - 07/13/16 02:27 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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7/13 Pictures
Just wanted to throw up an update of sorts. I made an LC from one of my spore syringes (I can't do agar as of now so this was what i wanted to go with) and my tub is getting there! It's a bit blue because I fucked up hard and let it get really dry one day when i had my fan on too high with my lid cracked. I have done my best to clean it up and it seems to be mostly unaffected my the one day. Since this came from MS i have some weird genetics but i sure do love this big guy in the corner. This LC is coming along well, before i shook it today it was coming along very nicely. I started the LC this sunday and im happy with where its coming along. Temps in my room have been ranging from 75 to 84 ish through the week but always with good air flow in it.

EDIT: Added some pics for the shroom in question
Edited by Spore211215 (07/13/16 02:44 PM)
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Re: TiT grow w/ pictures. How am I doing? (Updates) [Re: Spore211215] 1
#23437983 - 07/13/16 02:30 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Spore211215 said:

something's definitely attacking those fruits, they're not supposed to have such thinning on the stems.
the sub is obviously bacterial but that's not really a big concern, but I'd stop misting that thing and get a 2nd opinion, you dont wanna spread parasitic mold in your house.
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Re: TiT grow w/ pictures. How am I doing? (Updates) [Re: spacechildo]
#23437989 - 07/13/16 02:34 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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on my phone i don't see mold yet, but it's probably just a matter of time. But you're getting something! 
Edit: can someone zoom in the bottom left of the tub, 3rd pic and see? That may be mold there. Definitely shouldn't mist it.
Edited by dankington (07/13/16 02:37 PM)
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Re: TiT grow w/ pictures. How am I doing? (Updates) [Re: spacechildo]
#23437998 - 07/13/16 02:37 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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My correlation with that thin stem is that the day i dried the fuck out of it was when it was the height of that thinner portion of the stem. But im gonna listen to you since spreading that shit is not on my list of things id like to do.Quote:
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Spore211215 said:

something's definitely attacking those fruits, they're not supposed to have such thinning on the stems. I could be and probably am wrong, but that just made sense to me at the time.
the sub is obviously bacterial but that's not really a big concern, but I'd stop misting that thing and get a 2nd opinion, you dont wanna spread parasitic mold in your house.
My correlation with that thin stem is that the day when I dried the fuck out of it, that specific shroom happened to be that size at that time. But im gonna listen to you since in not on board to spread that shit.
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Re: TiT grow w/ pictures. How am I doing? (Updates) [Re: dankington]
#23438007 - 07/13/16 02:42 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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on my phone i don't see mold yet, but it's probably just a matter of time. But you're getting something! 
Edit: can someone zoom in the bottom left of the tub, 3rd pic and see? That may be mold there. Definitely shouldn't mist it.
Not talking about mold on the sub but a parasite that attacks the fruits. If you rub your fingers on the stem you can feel the sticky nasty spores on your fingertips, almost like really good hash, blonde kashmir etc except this stuff's nasty instead of sweet.
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Re: TiT grow w/ pictures. How am I doing? (Updates) [Re: spacechildo]
#23438010 - 07/13/16 02:43 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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You're talking about vert, I think.
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Re: TiT grow w/ pictures. How am I doing? (Updates) [Re: Supalemonhaze]
#23438024 - 07/13/16 02:49 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Yeah he is. Lecanicillium Fungicola. It can make the skinny bottoms; all depends on when it was infected.
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Re: TiT grow w/ pictures. How am I doing? (Updates) [Re: Supalemonhaze]
#23438026 - 07/13/16 02:51 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Supalemonhaze said: You're talking about vert, I think.
yes but this doesnt look like vert as it should look with such thin stems, and I'm sure I've heard there's other stuff than vert doing that same thing to the stems. so I tried to leave it open, I'm sure Pasty knows what's up here.
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Re: TiT grow w/ pictures. How am I doing? (Updates) [Re: spacechildo]
#23438051 - 07/13/16 03:01 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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There is no blowout. White mold is not likely. It does look a bit necrotic but what it really looks like is a fruit that had terrible FAE at first, then had things improve. Those scenarios often result in the wimpy bases which never recover from the high CO2.
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Re: TiT grow w/ pictures. How am I doing? (Updates) [Re: Pastywhyte]
#23438062 - 07/13/16 03:05 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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damn, that was fast!
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Re: TiT grow w/ pictures. How am I doing? (Updates) [Re: Pastywhyte]
#23438575 - 07/13/16 05:59 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Pastywhyte said: There is no blowout. White mold is not likely. It does look a bit necrotic but what it really looks like is a fruit that had terrible FAE at first, then had things improve. Those scenarios often result in the wimpy bases which never recover from the high CO2.
This, jesus, was painful scrolling through all that fuckin hypothesizing. hoping I wouldn't have to answer for all of it.
Thin stems at the base means the FAE was improved drastically between pinning and the middle of fruiting.
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Re: TiT grow w/ pictures. How am I doing? (Updates) [Re: Inocuole]
#23438912 - 07/13/16 08:12 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Dude....that tub is bacterial as fuck 
It looked alright before but it was defiantly fighting it.
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#23438949 - 07/13/16 08:26 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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HybridprX said: Dude....that tub is bacterial as fuck 
It looked alright before but it was defiantly fighting it.
Naw man that's just healthy ms. . .
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Re: TiT grow w/ pictures. How am I doing? (Updates) [Re: Pastywhyte]
#23439031 - 07/13/16 08:44 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Hard to tell until the end of results with Ms pasty.
That tub went south at some point but it also could have been led by various other factors too....he would have had to have started with a isolate to know for sure
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Re: TiT grow w/ pictures. How am I doing? (Updates) [Re: HybridprX]
#23439049 - 07/13/16 08:47 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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I have to ask Hybrid, what is it about it now that made it so bacterial but just a few days ago it was smooth sailing? If you're saying that cause it looks like a bluish / greenish tint, thats cause is from an unrelated drying out session i fucked up on but otherwise its the same IMO
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Re: TiT grow w/ pictures. How am I doing? (Updates) [Re: Spore211215]
#23439072 - 07/13/16 08:57 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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It's just as bacterial as before, but now with added necrotizing tissue  It's very simple, Hybridprix was incorrect.
and what is it with you and isolates? you keep using that word. I do not think it means, what you think it means.
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Re: TiT grow w/ pictures. How am I doing? (Updates) [Re: dankington]
#23439113 - 07/13/16 09:06 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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you keep using that word. I do not think it means, what you think it means.
INCONCEIVABLE!
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Re: TiT grow w/ pictures. How am I doing? (Updates) [Re: Pastywhyte]
#23439130 - 07/13/16 09:10 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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The uncolonized portion op...it defiantly has bacteria....the last pictures I had seen of it looked like the entire thing was fully colonized....that uncolonized patch is defiantly wet spot bacteria...
I'm not sure what you used for spawn but if it was Pf cakes it could explain the pins etc. ...or it could just be poor ms genetics....that's the whole problem is that your grow is ms.
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Re: TiT grow w/ pictures. How am I doing? (Updates) [Re: HybridprX]
#23439140 - 07/13/16 09:15 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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defiantly has bacteria... sounds brave.
I think I've heard enough.
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Re: TiT grow w/ pictures. How am I doing? (Updates) [Re: HybridprX]
#23439146 - 07/13/16 09:17 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Here we go again
Not only is that not a wet spot, because i haven't even kept it misted and wet for extended periods of time (if anything i need a way to keep the humidity in better) but you literally haven't read my original post about how i did this run. MS to 1Q of grain.
I really respect your uplifting words but i cannot respect what you say from a mycological standpoint, it goes against everything i have learned is correct on this site.
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Re: TiT grow w/ pictures. How am I doing? (Updates) [Re: Spore211215]
#23439189 - 07/13/16 09:31 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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^^damn dude, when a total noob is telling you that, you know it's time to quit.
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Re: TiT grow w/ pictures. How am I doing? (Updates) [Re: Spore211215]
#23439243 - 07/13/16 09:46 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Spore211215 said: Here we go again
Not only is that not a wet spot, because i haven't even kept it misted and wet for extended periods of time (if anything i need a way to keep the humidity in better) but you literally haven't read my original post about how i did this run. MS to 1Q of grain.
I really respect your uplifting words but i cannot respect what you say from a mycological standpoint, it goes against everything i have learned is correct on this site.
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Re: TiT grow w/ pictures. How am I doing? (Updates) [Re: HybridprX]
#23439718 - 07/14/16 12:48 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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HybridprX said: Hard to tell until the end of results with Ms pasty.
Pasty's sarcasm is so obvious, i don't know how you didn't get this, i guess you have bad memory lol.
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Re: TiT grow w/ pictures. How am I doing? (Updates) [Re: Teemo 6T3]
#23439747 - 07/14/16 01:03 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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This is fucking hilarious. Seriously, .
As I said before, according to hybrid, you can never have a small amount of bacteria, only a lot. Love how a "perfectly healthy" tub went to "bacterial as fuck" in a matter of days.

NEWSFLASH: The bacteria was always there, you just have to want to learn how to spot it.
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Re: TiT grow w/ pictures. How am I doing? (Updates) [Re: Supalemonhaze]
#23439769 - 07/14/16 01:23 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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I warned you Supa... Told you to take it easy or you'd lose your shit, now you're all tense, blowing up at everybody, next month you'll finally just be like "Fuck you, use the search engine you fucking fuck".
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Re: TiT grow w/ pictures. How am I doing? (Updates) [Re: Inocuole]
#23439946 - 07/14/16 05:18 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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There is three vectors of contamination in ops prep....the syringe, the grain prep or the bulk material....
I'm leaning towards overly saturated bulk which causes this since the initial run was doing very well up until I seen those pictures yesterday. Had I seen that uncolonized portion before I'd have been on the bacteria boat too.. .which I was up until the first splotch colonized.
There was never a magic wand to be waved at ops tub.

They say this is bacteria too 
OP got fruits but he needs to take the advice and clean up a culture on agar since ms mycelium always behaves differently. Sorry op, you do still have edible fruits though....they're not sickly looking.
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Re: TiT grow w/ pictures. How am I doing? (Updates) [Re: HybridprX]
#23440118 - 07/14/16 07:30 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Just stop trying to diagnose his problems. You are making a fool out of yourself.
His problem was BACTERIAL SPAWN 
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SloppyJoseph said: I expected to see a completely different fruiting chamber.. but your setup looks pretty good honestly. Conditions look ok in there, maybe loosen top poly a tad but not too much it looks fine.
You problem isn't with your conditions or your setup. Your spawn was bacterial. You can tell by the thick stringy aerial mycelium before you cased, and by the thick white aerial mycelium popping up through the casing. Just be patient, you will get a flush out of that at least. But don't expect it to live long after that before it turns green or something.
Literally the first fucking post of this thread
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Re: TiT grow w/ pictures. How am I doing? (Updates) [Re: SloppyJoseph]
#23440247 - 07/14/16 08:39 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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healthy MS still looks healthy, bacterial grows looks bacterial no matter if its MS or "You isolated on agar first" 
When a newb OP schools you this hard its time to start and stop trying to give advice..
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Re: TiT grow w/ pictures. How am I doing? (Updates) [Re: spacechildo]
#23440265 - 07/14/16 08:48 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Yeah there's just a point when you stop trying to convince hybrid, but here's my last try. All I can say is that the tub hybrid put up looks pretty awful. Lumpy, bubbly and altogether shitty.
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Mad Season said: This is what it's supposed to look like when your surface is uneven

What you have is classic bacteria. Cottage cheese look, thick, and the bubbles are the myceliums reaction to bacteria. Tomentose looks wispy and thin. Not thick and bubbly. As seen in the pic above.
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blindingleaf said: bacteria on WKZ culture. both plates started off looking rhizo/normal, but as they aged, several sprouts popped up, and the second plate, u can see the edges of the growth are bubbling up in response to bacteria. these are both from same clone, same day.
 
another one (slight bacteria/hidden something), matazapec, MS, unfruited

compare to a very clean Penis envy culture

And notice there's different types of growth. Both tomentose and rizmorphic. That is what healthy MS looks like.
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Re: TiT grow w/ pictures. How am I doing? (Updates) [Re: Mad Season]
#23440835 - 07/14/16 01:04 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Mad Season....you could say the same about this.... 
But it turned into this...

Mycelium behaves differently on bulk material....it never looks like how it is on a petri dish.
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Re: TiT grow w/ pictures. How am I doing? (Updates) [Re: HybridprX]
#23440852 - 07/14/16 01:07 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Right your 27% BE tub proved me wrong.
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Re: TiT grow w/ pictures. How am I doing? (Updates) [Re: Inocuole]
#23440876 - 07/14/16 01:16 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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IF it fruits, it's not bacterial. Joke of the year.
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Nah, I'm immune to hybrid by now, he doesn't even phase me anymore. BO baffled me though, wasn't expecting that from someone I thought knew his shit.
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Re: TiT grow w/ pictures. How am I doing? (Updates) [Re: Supalemonhaze]
#23440919 - 07/14/16 01:36 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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You can't even apply b/e to ms... I'm not even concerned about it to be honest...
Besides it was 4 L of wbs to 1.5L coir.... and I never said you couldn't get fruits from a bulk sub with bacteria. Anyways...that 68 L tub is pinning...
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#23440937 - 07/14/16 01:43 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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BE can so be applied to MS. I can easily consistently see at least 80%.
But I get it. It's pinning again. Show it off when you see it finished. I did tell you that it was only slightly bacterial. Not entirely covered in it, so I really wouldn't be surprised if you see multiple flushes. But mycelium always bubbles to bacteria regardless of genetics. Tomentose although can be thick, it doesn't look rubbery and thick. It's wispy. You can deny it all you want, that's just how it goes.
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Re: TiT grow w/ pictures. How am I doing? (Updates) [Re: HybridprX]
#23440944 - 07/14/16 01:46 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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HybridprX said: You can't even apply b/e to ms...
Oh, no? 
I don't even calculate B/E but I still aim for the best I can get (meaning clean spawn). Some of us want to improve our grows, you know.
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Re: TiT grow w/ pictures. How am I doing? (Updates) [Re: HybridprX]
#23441020 - 07/14/16 02:15 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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HybridprX said: You can't even apply b/e to ms... I'm not even concerned about it to be honest...
Besides it was 4 L of wbs to 1.5L coir.... and I never said you couldn't get fruits from a bulk sub with bacteria. Anyways...that 68 L tub is pinning...
I really need to know where these things you say are coming from. Of course you can calculate the bio efficiency of any grow. Your comment about isolates isn't even relevant. I think I see what you're saying, but it doesn't matter.
You're thinking in terms of "well, the BE isn't as good this grow with this isolate (which I know can bust out 150% BE), so I must have a contaminate. But this is irrelevant.
Even with an MS grow, you should strive for 100%+ BE. Any less means you had bacterial spawn. This is pretty much a fact--I've been noticing this simply by tracking my grows. Sure, it's possible you get crap genetics and only get 75% from pristine spawn, but it's highly unlikely.
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Re: TiT grow w/ pictures. How am I doing? (Updates) [Re: dankington]
#23441138 - 07/14/16 03:05 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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IMO it's not bacteria that's giving him such low return on BE or grain spawn or however you like to see it, rather poor fruiting conditions, it really lacks in FAE, just up the air flow in the tub.
2oz return on 4 litres/qts of spawn should be concering ya!
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Re: TiT grow w/ pictures. How am I doing? (Updates) [Re: HybridprX]
#23441589 - 07/14/16 06:34 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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God damn it... Seriously? Seriously?? Dude... Just stop talking.
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Re: TiT grow w/ pictures. How am I doing? (Updates) [Re: Inocuole]
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Re: TiT grow w/ pictures. How am I doing? (Updates) [Re: Inocuole]
#23442735 - 07/15/16 01:44 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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If only.
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Re: TiT grow w/ pictures. How am I doing? (Updates) [Re: Supalemonhaze]
#23446733 - 07/16/16 12:23 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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7/16 ish Pictures
Just a photo dump update, picked the first flush and watered and poured out some water in the tub, and started a second batch that I know is heavily bacterial but I want to see what will come of it. It's worth a try right? I did the second tub with daemons 50/50 tek.
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Re: TiT grow w/ pictures. How am I doing? (Updates) [Re: Spore211215]
#23446749 - 07/16/16 12:33 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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looks like you pulled a couple nice doses. Now time for a dunk and hope that bacteria doesn't prevent a second flush
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Re: TiT grow w/ pictures. How am I doing? (Updates) [Re: SloppyJoseph]
#23447124 - 07/16/16 03:15 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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so many aborts...so dry why are people letting their subs get so fuckin dry lately? I get that it's hot out, water them bitches!
Dank said it best, I got thirsty just looking at it.
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Re: TiT grow w/ pictures. How am I doing? (Updates) [Re: the_r3dz]
#23448925 - 07/17/16 06:49 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Nice go on the fruits op.... I doubt you will get a 2nd flush off of that though....hopefully you collected spore prints.
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Still here eh?
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Re: TiT grow w/ pictures. How am I doing? (Updates) [Re: Inocuole]
#23451676 - 07/18/16 01:01 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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