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Teemo 6T3
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Re: TiT grow w/ pictures. How am I doing? (Updates) [Re: mupetmower]
#23398266 - 06/30/16 05:18 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Ye my bad, didn't clearly state what i meant lol
I meant the beneficial bacteria that survive pasteurisation
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mupetmower
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Re: TiT grow w/ pictures. How am I doing? (Updates) [Re: Teemo 6T3]
#23398273 - 06/30/16 05:19 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Re: TiT grow w/ pictures. How am I doing? (Updates) [Re: mupetmower]
#23398284 - 06/30/16 05:21 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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The fact you can be here for 8 years and STILL think overlay is a common thing that happens to cubes is astounding.. The only way to do that is to completely ignore the posts that refute it, every single time, for years. This dude's gotta be a brick wall by now, that's some serious mental conditioning..
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Re: TiT grow w/ pictures. How am I doing? (Updates) [Re: Inocuole]
#23398291 - 06/30/16 05:23 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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man.. i just dont get why some people just can't admit they are wrong. it's not hard. no one is going to hate you for it, or anything. but doing stuff like this will only hurt in the end.
And, i mean.. its not like its such a terrible thing to be wrong, sometimes. everyone is wrong sometimes. and if you can't admit it, then you can and will never grow.
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Re: TiT grow w/ pictures. How am I doing? (Updates) [Re: mupetmower]
#23398296 - 06/30/16 05:24 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Cause we're nooby pubfags
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dankington
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Re: TiT grow w/ pictures. How am I doing? (Updates) [Re: Mad Season]
#23398323 - 06/30/16 05:34 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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= all of us. that's why we never get anything to grow. 
I get upset when I only get 100%BE, hybridprix. How about you?
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Re: TiT grow w/ pictures. How am I doing? [Re: HybridprX]
#23398394 - 06/30/16 05:54 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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OP, your tub looks bacterial. Not only is the myc growing out aerial, but it's also got that foamy looking myc mixed in with it. Quote:
HybridprX said:
Sorry to jack ops thread but does this look bacterial to you?


The yellowing is overlay from applying a coir layer....bad decision on my end.
Looks bacterial for the same reason as OP's. Not as bacterial as OP's, but still bacterial.
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Re: TiT grow w/ pictures. How am I doing? [Re: SpitballJedi]
#23398399 - 06/30/16 05:56 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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you sure its not just cube overlay???
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Re: TiT grow w/ pictures. How am I doing? [Re: mupetmower]
#23398402 - 06/30/16 05:57 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Re: TiT grow w/ pictures. How am I doing? [Re: SpitballJedi]
#23398415 - 06/30/16 06:01 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Hey HybridPrick, you sorry you said anything yet? Learn to accept that you are wrong, and stop fighting with the entire community when we say this is text book bacterial mycelium acting up. You honestly don't know jack shit. Nameste.
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Re: TiT grow w/ pictures. How am I doing? [Re: SloppyJoseph]
#23398424 - 06/30/16 06:04 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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The "Shitformation Cock Block"
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Edited by Teemo 6T3 (06/30/16 06:04 PM)
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HybridprX
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Re: TiT grow w/ pictures. How am I doing? (Updates) [Re: SpitballJedi]
#23398453 - 06/30/16 06:15 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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I'm arguing by stating my experience as a home cultivator...I've had to have personally seen (in ten+ years) at least 20 projects to to waste because of contaminates.... ops project is multispore... mixed genetics produce different mycelium.....this is basic knowledge here on shroomery.
I just tossed two jars due to bacteria...they did not recover.
In the presence of bacteria mycelium does form a wall around the area and it becomes very thick and dense and you invitro fruit from the jar like the one user posted.
But....you cannot safely spawn it to bulk without contamination.... there for, ops bulk is is 100 complete and it is a case of overlay..
At first I suspected the uncolonized portion was due to a bacteria contaminate but now that we all see that it has colonized then clearly there was no bacteria present in the spawn or else it would be sour feet smell all the way.
The Ariel mycelium is common in high humidity, op has adjusted this....his tray has come along since then..
It does not have bacteria...
I suppose your the same group of folks that had the "dunk your grain spawn" thread going to...? 3 failures attributed to that.....
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Re: TiT grow w/ pictures. How am I doing? (Updates) [Re: HybridprX]
#23398470 - 06/30/16 06:19 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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i think he is just trolling..
its been explained to you why that is misinformation over and over again.
EDIT - and why, exactly, can you not dunk grain spawn? plenty of people do it with success. so, please, enlighten us. just because you fail doing something, does not mean that it was attributed to the tek you followed.
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Edited by mupetmower (06/30/16 06:24 PM)
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spacechildo
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Re: TiT grow w/ pictures. How am I doing? (Updates) [Re: HybridprX]
#23398478 - 06/30/16 06:23 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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so you're basically saying you cant recognize bacteria unless there's so much of it it wont even colonize the grains... man you have a lot of learning to do, the pic of overlay in TMC is not overlay, that's wrong and Stamets admits so. overlay looks like a thick layer of ice all over your sub, not parts of the sub colonized by bacterial myc.
You keep saying bacteria WILL smell, when in fact it MIGHT smell. most bacterial jars will recover and look all white in a week. healthy spawn takes 2 days tops.
dunking your grains doesnt cause contaminations either
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Re: TiT grow w/ pictures. How am I doing? (Updates) [Re: spacechildo]
#23398506 - 06/30/16 06:28 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Yes, Hybridprix, it sounds like you only call it bacteria when it's totally inundated. But there are different levels of infection, just as there are shades of grey in many things. This is an example of fairly heavy bacterial infection, and it should still produce fruits, though at a sub-par level. Say a BE of 30-50% tops. IE about 10-15g or so per qt. of spawn. That's really low. If your spawn is clean, 100% BE is pretty much your minimum production.
It's simply this: we try and be better than just okay. You know?
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Re: TiT grow w/ pictures. How am I doing? (Updates) [Re: HybridprX]
#23398508 - 06/30/16 06:29 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Quote:
HybridprX said: I'm arguing by stating my experience as a home cultivator...I've had to have personally seen (in ten+ years) at least 20 projects to to waste because of contaminates.... ops project is multispore... mixed genetics produce different mycelium.....this is basic knowledge here on shroomery.
I just tossed two jars due to bacteria...they did not recover.
In the presence of bacteria mycelium does form a wall around the area and it becomes very thick and dense and you invitro fruit from the jar like the one user posted.
Fact: Sometimes it gets all foamy looking like yours and OP's pics.
But....you cannot safely spawn it to bulk without contamination.... there for, ops bulk is is 100 complete and it is a case of overlay..
100% false. I, and many others, including people in this very thread, have fruited bacterial subs. There are few people that claim to have had some of the best fruiting ever with bacterial tubs. Also, you don't actually know what overlay looks like. You don't have overlay and neither does th OP. You are talking complete shit.
At first I suspected the uncolonized portion was due to a bacteria contaminate but now that we all see that it has colonized then clearly there was no bacteria present in the spawn or else it would be sour feet smell all the way.
Fact: Often, myc will continue to colonize and fruit even in the presence of bacteria.
The Ariel mycelium is common in high humidity, op has adjusted this....his tray has come along since then..
This is true. But, this is not what is causing his. It looks different than aerial myc caused by low FAE.
It does not have bacteria...
100% false. It is bacterial
I suppose your the same group of folks that had the "dunk your grain spawn" thread going to...? 3 failures attributed to that..... Red herring. Besides, lots of people do it. Is it fail proof? no. Do you have any evidence to support failure being caused by dunking spawn? No, you don't. It's a red herring anyway.
You are completely full of shit and have no idea what you are talking about. It's obvious you are just trolling because nobody on this forum is this idiotic.
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Re: TiT grow w/ pictures. How am I doing? (Updates) [Re: spacechildo]
#23398516 - 06/30/16 06:31 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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I've dunked my grains on every one of my grows. I've never lost a tub before the first flush due to trich. Check out my gallery bro. If I lost it after the first flush it was BECAUSE OF BACTERIA THAT LOOKED LIKE OPs.
Now once again, because now we are babying at this point...
This is not a different phenotype of mycelium due to MS. Thats retarded that you think this is common knowledge. Its not even a thing. If you say OVERLAY one more time I want to start a ban petition for you for trolling.
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Re: TiT grow w/ pictures. How am I doing? (Updates) [Re: SpitballJedi]
#23398520 - 06/30/16 06:33 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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idk, spitball... there are some really, reeeaaallllllyyyy s on here who like to
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Teemo 6T3
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Re: TiT grow w/ pictures. How am I doing? (Updates) [Re: SpitballJedi]
#23398523 - 06/30/16 06:33 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Thank god shroomery has a rating system so noobs know who to listen to.
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mupetmower
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Re: TiT grow w/ pictures. How am I doing? (Updates) [Re: Teemo 6T3]
#23398527 - 06/30/16 06:34 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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the bad thing is, though, that you still see noobs listen to people's advice even when there are TC's saying it's wrong, and poster has 0 rating.
EDIT - usually because it is more something that they are wanting to hear, over something they need to hear, and do.
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Edited by mupetmower (06/30/16 06:35 PM)
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