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InvisibleSwami
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The Wrong Way to Debate
    #2323857 - 02/11/04 01:15 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

Whenever a poster says, "You are..." or "You think..." or "You believe..." the discussion has probably gone off-track and has turned from debating ideas to personalitites and has entered the "mind-reading" realm.

If you catch yourself doing this - STOP!


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Re: The Wrong Way to Debate [Re: Swami]
    #2323886 - 02/11/04 01:23 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

You are a master debater.

Wait... did I just enter the "mind-reading" realm? *duh na na nuh duh na na nuh*


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Re: The Wrong Way to Debate [Re: Sclorch]
    #2323898 - 02/11/04 01:26 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

*quickly removes hand from groinal area*

Um, what did you say? *flushes bright red*


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Re: The Wrong Way to Debate [Re: Swami]
    #2323949 - 02/11/04 01:45 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

You are right.


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Re: The Wrong Way to Debate [Re: Annom]
    #2323960 - 02/11/04 01:50 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

NO! NO! NO! *pulls large tufts of hair from head*


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Re: The Wrong Way to Debate [Re: Swami]
    #2323977 - 02/11/04 01:58 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

Swami said:
NO! NO! NO! *pulls large tufts of hair from head*




Ah... so that's what those huge scarred patches on your head are from.  :devil:


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Re: The Wrong Way to Debate [Re: Swami]
    #2323995 - 02/11/04 02:05 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

A very good point! It's easy to abandon the debate of ideas/theories and instead attack the person behind the ideas/theories...but it is not productive to do so!

Thanks swami :smile:


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Re: The Wrong Way to Debate [Re: Swami]
    #2324001 - 02/11/04 02:06 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

If it's absolutely necessary to make reference to individuals, I find it helpful to say things like "It seems", or "You seem", "You seem to view this in this way," "Maybe I'm mistaken, but,".

This helps keep things civil. In general, people don't like it when their "I" is highlighted as part of a criticism.


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Re: The Wrong Way to Debate [Re: Swami]
    #2324027 - 02/11/04 02:12 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

the wrong way to deabte huh??

"The Wrong Way to Debate"

that sounds like another one to add to your list


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Re: The Wrong Way to Debate [Re: Swami]
    #2324056 - 02/11/04 02:21 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

"You are known as Swami."
"You think I should follow your rules?"
"You believe that your rules are best?"

Although these examples are not using the best grammatical construction, I see nothing wrong with their use in debates.


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Re: The Wrong Way to Debate [Re: Swami]
    #2324113 - 02/11/04 02:34 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

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Re: The Wrong Way to Debate [Re: ]
    #2324125 - 02/11/04 02:38 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

OMG... just fucking let it go, bro.

And questioning your honesty is not equivalent to calling you a liar.


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Re: The Wrong Way to Debate [Re: Ped]
    #2324138 - 02/11/04 02:40 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

Ped said:
If it's absolutely necessary to make reference to individuals, I find it helpful to say things like "It seems", or "You seem", "You seem to view this in this way," "Maybe I'm mistaken, but,". 

This helps keep things civil.  In general, people don't like it when their "I" is highlighted as part of a criticism.


                                                                very well put ped :laugh:


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Re: The Wrong Way to Debate [Re: Sclorch]
    #2324160 - 02/11/04 02:47 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

And there you have it. A clear example of wrong debating technique.


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Re: The Wrong Way to Debate [Re: Swami]
    #2324168 - 02/11/04 02:48 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

"And there you have it. A clear example of wrong debating technique. "

and openmind and a hint of understanding was what is needed for a debate. this way things don't get taken too seriously


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Annnnnnd I had a light saber and my friend was there and I said "you look like an indian" and he said "you look like satan" and he found a stick and a rock and he named the rock ooga booga and he named the stick Stick and we both thought that was pretty funny. We got eaten alive by mosquitos but didn't notice til the next day. I stepped on some glass while wading in the swamp and cut my foot open, didn't bother me til the next day either....yeah it was a good time, ended the night by buying some liquor for minors and drinking nips and going to he diner and eating chicken fingers, and then I went home and went to bed.---senior doobie


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Re: The Wrong Way to Debate [Re: Swami]
    #2324315 - 02/11/04 03:24 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

One time, I had to rewrite an english essay because I had used first person many times, which was inappropriate. So I rewrote it with third person: Ryan this and Ryan that. Hey, I thought it was funny!


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