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Do you ever see a civil war or revolution starting in Europe?
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Just wondering soon the refugee crisis is getting worst every year causing the far right to grow(by a lot actually especially in Germany) do you ever see a civil war or revolution starting?

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Re: Do you ever see a civil war or revolution starting in Europe? [Re: TioWWW999]
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If some of these fascist right-wing parties come to power because of Islamic terrorism then I don't think war would necessarily be off the menu. I don't think it would be between European states though. It might spark invasions of the middle east though. That's highly speculative of course.


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Re: Do you ever see a civil war or revolution starting in Europe? [Re: TioWWW999]
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I think Europe has no choice but to adopt the Israeli model for dealing with Islam and that basically means a constant low intensity civil war. So yes.


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Re: Do you ever see a civil war or revolution starting in Europe? [Re: HardTrippin]
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HardTrippin said:
If some of these fascist right-wing parties come to power because of Islamic terrorism then I don't think war would necessarily be off the menu. I don't think it would be between European states though. It might spark invasions of the middle east though. That's highly speculative of course.


I'm on about a civil war or revolution not a full scale attack on the middle east

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Re: Do you ever see a civil war or revolution starting in Europe? [Re: TioWWW999]
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I can totally imagine Germany's Nazi movement or it's equivalent be revived in the near future. France is on the brink too. I still don't understand how it didn't already happen in Greece already, with all the economic problems + the Syrian problem. It's a spark away from chaos IMO.

In the next 5 to 10 years, I expect to see some big changes in Europe whether it's political, economical or civil war(s)


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Re: Do you ever see a civil war or revolution starting in Europe? [Re: Patlal]
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Well, lets say people become fed up with Muslim immigration. Why would that spark a civil war or a revolution beyond a simple closing off of borders? I don't see how a full-blown revolution or civil war is possible. What would it accomplish? I doubt any countries are gonna start rounding up Muslims and putting them in camps, which is what it would probably take for a war to start up over this within the EU.


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Re: Do you ever see a civil war or revolution starting in Europe? [Re: HardTrippin]
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HardTrippin said:
Well, lets say people become fed up with Muslim immigration. Why would that spark a civil war or a revolution beyond a simple closing off of borders? I don't see how a full-blown revolution or civil war is possible. What would it accomplish? I doubt any countries are gonna start rounding up Muslims and putting them in camps, which is what it would probably take for a war to start up over this within the EU.


I guess you know nothing about this. Just look at Sweden and the amount of shit it got from these illegal immigrants (now highest rape per capita in europe 80% of those reports described as middle eastern looking men). The far right is on the rise there's even rallies that took place near me

Edited by TioWWW999 (04/09/16 07:25 PM)

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Re: Do you ever see a civil war or revolution starting in Europe? [Re: TioWWW999]
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TioWWW999 said:
HardTrippin said:
Well, lets say people become fed up with Muslim immigration. Why would that spark a civil war or a revolution beyond a simple closing off of borders? I don't see how a full-blown revolution or civil war is possible. What would it accomplish? I doubt any countries are gonna start rounding up Muslims and putting them in camps, which is what it would probably take for a war to start up over this within the EU.


I guess you know nothing about this. Just look at Sweden and the amount of shit it got from these illegal immigrants (now highest rape per capita in europe 80% of those reports described as middle eastern looking men). The far right is on the rise there's even rallies that took place near me


Rallies? You think this will lead to war or revolution? Kinda jumpin the gun a little aren't we?


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Re: Do you ever see a civil war or revolution starting in Europe? [Re: HardTrippin]
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HardTrippin said:
TioWWW999 said:
HardTrippin said:
Well, lets say people become fed up with Muslim immigration. Why would that spark a civil war or a revolution beyond a simple closing off of borders? I don't see how a full-blown revolution or civil war is possible. What would it accomplish? I doubt any countries are gonna start rounding up Muslims and putting them in camps, which is what it would probably take for a war to start up over this within the EU.


I guess you know nothing about this. Just look at Sweden and the amount of shit it got from these illegal immigrants (now highest rape per capita in europe 80% of those reports described as middle eastern looking men). The far right is on the rise there's even rallies that took place near me


Rallies? You think this will lead to war or revolution? Kinda jumpin the gun a little aren't we?


No and plus when did I say it's gunna happen straight away? I'm saying far right groups are on the rise rapidly a few years there none now there are everywhere just look at germany,france and poland who are probably getting the worst from the refugee crisis. Beligum is getting worst as well no surprise

Edited by TioWWW999 (04/09/16 07:34 PM)

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Re: Do you ever see a civil war or revolution starting in Europe? [Re: TioWWW999]
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It has been like this from the  bigging of time :shrug:

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Re: Do you ever see a civil war or revolution starting in Europe? [Re: TioWWW999]
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So you say "no" to me asking if you think rallies will lead to war or revolution, and yet you claim I know nothing about the issue because I said I don't see how war or revolution would be sparked from the terrorist/immigration issue? I'm confused.

Let me be clear here. Just because wars and revolutions are often preceded by anger and demonstrations, it doesn't follow that demonstrations and anger are usually followed by war or revolution. Logic 101.


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"To be yourself in a world that is constantly trying to make you something else is the greatest accomplishment" - Ralph Waldo Emerson

Edited by HardTrippin (04/09/16 07:45 PM)

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Re: Do you ever see a civil war or revolution starting in Europe? [Re: HardTrippin]
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HardTrippin said:
So you say "no" to me asking if you think rallies will lead to war or revolution, and yet you claim I know nothing about the issue because I said I don't see how war or revolution would be sparked from the terrorist/immigration issue? I'm confused.


Did you not read my last post at all? Now your just putting words in my mouth because not once I said rallies are gunna start a civil war I said the refugee crisis is getting worst and far right is on the rapidly and plus you live in Canada so you dont even take a look at this never mind live here

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Re: Do you ever see a civil war or revolution starting in Europe? [Re: HardTrippin]
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HardTrippin said:
So you say "no" to me asking if you think rallies will lead to war or revolution, and yet you claim I know nothing about the issue because I said I don't see how war or revolution would be sparked from the terrorist/immigration issue? I'm confused.

Let me be clear here. Just because wars and revolutions are often preceded by anger and demonstrations, it doesn't follow that demonstrations and anger are usually followed by war or revolution. Logic 101.


What so your saying Urkaine was just a bunch of rallies? Don't think so

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Re: Do you ever see a civil war or revolution starting in Europe? [Re: TioWWW999]
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TioWWW999 said:
HardTrippin said:
So you say "no" to me asking if you think rallies will lead to war or revolution, and yet you claim I know nothing about the issue because I said I don't see how war or revolution would be sparked from the terrorist/immigration issue? I'm confused.


Did you not read my last post at all? Now your just putting words in my mouth because not once I said rallies are gunna start a civil war I said the refugee crisis is getting worst and far right is on the rapidly and plus you live in Canada so you dont even take a look at this never mind live here


TioWWW999 said:
HardTrippin said:
TioWWW999 said:
HardTrippin said:
Well, lets say people become fed up with Muslim immigration. Why would that spark a civil war or a revolution beyond a simple closing off of borders? I don't see how a full-blown revolution or civil war is possible. What would it accomplish? I doubt any countries are gonna start rounding up Muslims and putting them in camps, which is what it would probably take for a war to start up over this within the EU.


I guess you know nothing about this. Just look at Sweden and the amount of shit it got from these illegal immigrants (now highest rape per capita in europe 80% of those reports described as middle eastern looking men). The far right is on the rise there's even rallies that took place near me


Rallies? You think this will lead to war or revolution? Kinda jumpin the gun a little aren't we?


No and plus when did I say it's gunna happen straight away? I'm saying far right groups are on the rise rapidly a few years there none now there are everywhere just look at germany,france and poland who are probably getting the worst from the refugee crisis. Beligum is getting worst as well no surprise


So you're saying the rise of far right groups is going to lead to war or revolution then?

By the way, I come to Europe often and I follow the news closely. Don't bar me from the conversation just because I don't live there.


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Edited by HardTrippin (04/09/16 07:48 PM)

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Re: Do you ever see a civil war or revolution starting in Europe? [Re: TioWWW999]
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TioWWW999 said:
HardTrippin said:
So you say "no" to me asking if you think rallies will lead to war or revolution, and yet you claim I know nothing about the issue because I said I don't see how war or revolution would be sparked from the terrorist/immigration issue? I'm confused.

Let me be clear here. Just because wars and revolutions are often preceded by anger and demonstrations, it doesn't follow that demonstrations and anger are usually followed by war or revolution. Logic 101.


What so your saying Urkaine was just a bunch of rallies? Don't think so


Dude that doesn't follow from what I said at all. I'm saying that war and revolution don't necessarily follow rallies. Neither do they necessarily follow right wing political parties coming to power.


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"To be yourself in a world that is constantly trying to make you something else is the greatest accomplishment" - Ralph Waldo Emerson

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Re: Do you ever see a civil war or revolution starting in Europe? [Re: TioWWW999]
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TioWWW999 said:
HardTrippin said:
So you say "no" to me asking if you think rallies will lead to war or revolution, and yet you claim I know nothing about the issue because I said I don't see how war or revolution would be sparked from the terrorist/immigration issue? I'm confused.

Let me be clear here. Just because wars and revolutions are often preceded by anger and demonstrations, it doesn't follow that demonstrations and anger are usually followed by war or revolution. Logic 101.


What so your saying Urkaine was just a bunch of rallies? Don't think so


Eastern Europe and Western are very different situations though... The west has been very stable for the last 50 years more or less, and has a lot of interest in keeping things calm.


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Re: Do you ever see a civil war or revolution starting in Europe? [Re: HardTrippin]
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HardTrippin said:
TioWWW999 said:
HardTrippin said:
So you say "no" to me asking if you think rallies will lead to war or revolution, and yet you claim I know nothing about the issue because I said I don't see how war or revolution would be sparked from the terrorist/immigration issue? I'm confused.

Let me be clear here. Just because wars and revolutions are often preceded by anger and demonstrations, it doesn't follow that demonstrations and anger are usually followed by war or revolution. Logic 101.


What so your saying Urkaine was just a bunch of rallies? Don't think so


Dude that doesn't follow from what I said at all. I'm saying that war and revolution don't necessarily follow rallies. Neither do they necessarily follow right wing political parties coming to power.


HardTrippin said:
TioWWW999 said:
HardTrippin said:
So you say "no" to me asking if you think rallies will lead to war or revolution, and yet you claim I know nothing about the issue because I said I don't see how war or revolution would be sparked from the terrorist/immigration issue? I'm confused.

Let me be clear here. Just because wars and revolutions are often preceded by anger and demonstrations, it doesn't follow that demonstrations and anger are usually followed by war or revolution. Logic 101.


What so your saying Urkaine was just a bunch of rallies? Don't think so


Dude that doesn't follow from what I said at all. I'm saying that war and revolution don't necessarily follow rallies. Neither do they necessarily follow right wing political parties coming to power.


I'm not saying it will but I'm not saying it's impossible I mean why did you think I asked the question in the first place I wanted to hear other people opinions (mainly from people who actually live there and know the place well) and not westerners be like "it's only illegal immigrants and ISIS bombing and chopping peoples heads off who cares". I didn't once specifically say a revolution or civil war "will" start.

Edited by TioWWW999 (04/09/16 07:59 PM)

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Re: Do you ever see a civil war or revolution starting in Europe? [Re: TioWWW999]
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Which is why I then asked why revolution or civil war would be a result of whats going on? The problem of immigration and terrorism wouldn't be solved by civil war or a full-on revolution. The closest thing that makes sense is to change policies so that they're less liberal and less inclusive of minority rights. If you want to call that a revolution then that's fine, but I wouldn't go that far, and I don't think that countries would revolt and overthrow the government to ensure this happens or to sabotage this if it does happen.


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Re: Do you ever see a civil war or revolution starting in Europe? [Re: HardTrippin]
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HardTrippin said:
Which is why I then asked why revolution or civil war would be a result of whats going on? The problem of immigration and terrorism wouldn't be solved by civil war or a full-on revolution. The closest thing that makes sense is to change policies so that they're less liberal and less inclusive of minority rights. If you want to call that a revolution then that's fine, but I wouldn't go that far, and I don't think that countries would revolt and overthrow the government to ensure this happens or to sabotage this if it does happen.


Finally a good answer

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Re: Do you ever see a civil war or revolution starting in Europe? [Re: TioWWW999]
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TioWWW999 said:
HardTrippin said:
Which is why I then asked why revolution or civil war would be a result of whats going on? The problem of immigration and terrorism wouldn't be solved by civil war or a full-on revolution. The closest thing that makes sense is to change policies so that they're less liberal and less inclusive of minority rights. If you want to call that a revolution then that's fine, but I wouldn't go that far, and I don't think that countries would revolt and overthrow the government to ensure this happens or to sabotage this if it does happen.


Finally a good answer


TioWWW999 said:
HardTrippin said:
Well, lets say people become fed up with Muslim immigration. Why would that spark a civil war or a revolution beyond a simple closing off of borders? I don't see how a full-blown revolution or civil war is possible. What would it accomplish?


I guess you know nothing about this.


You're a piece of work.


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