zappaisgod said:

Yep.  If you're just working for the weekend you aint gonna get much further.

---

Ezuma said:

zappaisgod said:

Jokeshopbeard said:

zappaisgod said:

If you want to make anything of your life you need to put in much more hours.

---

Are you serious? I can't figure out if you're being sarcastic or not.

---

Not at all.  Everybody I know who has achieved anything has put in more than 40 hours a week.

---

I think there's some truth to that actually, even look at musicians, painters, writers, non-typical types, in order to excel at what they do they do it A LOT. I probably draw for like 40 hrs a week on top of classes and 15-20 hrs of part time job. If I was free to simply pursue art, I'm the kind of dude who'd be mostly doing 10-12 hr days (I'm obsessive as fuck)

so, basically, yeah

---

Lynnch said:

zappaisgod said:

Yep.  If you're just working for the weekend you aint gonna get much further.

---

I'm curious how you measure the success of these people. Salary figure? Status symbols? Number of children in college? Professional advancement? Number of hobbies? Self expressed happiness?

I think it's crazy to feel like you have to work more than 40 hours a week to find success. There is more to life. But then again, I am glad that people find or create things that they care about enough to work endlessly on.

I mean, it sounds like you've worked your ass off, and created a successful business, and therefore, a good life for yourself. But deciding to work an extra 20 hours a week overtime at a minimum wage job is hardly the same thing- making a couple extra bucks doesn't necessarily equate to success or happiness.

---

Supachopped719 said:

I used to work for a marketing company, it was 100% commission. I started off as a lowly sales rep. Work started at 8:30am, we would hit the field at 10ish and be back at the office by 6:00pm. We'd have a closing meeting and by 7:00ish I would go back out and hit the streets to keep working until 10-11pm.

I did this 7 days a week for over a year and a half. Never took a full day off, always worked all day or at least part of he day. Christmas morning I woke up at like 3:30 am and went to the busiest gas station in town and worked until my family called my to come home for Christmas.

I went from a entry level sales rep to being promoted to Jr partner of the company. Hard work finally paid off, they actually gave me a percentage of the company!

You do have to work more than 40 hours a week if you want to achieve greatness, but to have a great full life that's a lot of fun and has a ton of adventure and love, you don't have to work so hard.

I didn't like living like a mega worker, it was fun to brag and I felt real good about myself. But working constantly is not how I want to live my life anymore. Now I take it easy, make more than any of my friends I'm pretty sure so I'm not in some rush jump back in with 80 hour work weeks.

---

zappaisgod said:

---

zappaisgod said:

Lynnch said:

zappaisgod said:

Yep.  If you're just working for the weekend you aint gonna get much further.

---

I'm curious how you measure the success of these people. Salary figure? Status symbols? Number of children in college? Professional advancement? Number of hobbies? Self expressed happiness?

I think it's crazy to feel like you have to work more than 40 hours a week to find success. There is more to life. But then again, I am glad that people find or create things that they care about enough to work endlessly on.

I mean, it sounds like you've worked your ass off, and created a successful business, and therefore, a good life for yourself. But deciding to work an extra 20 hours a week overtime at a minimum wage job is hardly the same thing- making a couple extra bucks doesn't necessarily equate to success or happiness.

---

Why is there this false notion that people are trapped in minimum wage careers?  Minimum wage is a starting wage.  If you are still making minimum wage after a year at a job you have pretty much demonstrated that you are either an imbecile or a slacker bum.  You work the extra hours to gain more experience and to demonstrate a work ethic which almost invariably gets you a raise.  If it doesn't go work elsewhere.

I took plenty of drugs.  Taking drugs was not my goal like it seems to be for so many here.  It was a reward I gave myself AFTER I put my hours in.  I did not work to do drugs.  I had other ambitions.  If your ambition is to get high then fine.  Live in a refrigerator box and dive in dumpsters for food.  I have no sympathy for you.

I don't specifically mean you Lynnch.  I don't think you are that guy.  But there are more than a few of them here.

---

chulutu said:

zappaisgod said:

Lynnch said:

zappaisgod said:

Yep.  If you're just working for the weekend you aint gonna get much further.

---

I'm curious how you measure the success of these people. Salary figure? Status symbols? Number of children in college? Professional advancement? Number of hobbies? Self expressed happiness?

I think it's crazy to feel like you have to work more than 40 hours a week to find success. There is more to life. But then again, I am glad that people find or create things that they care about enough to work endlessly on.

I mean, it sounds like you've worked your ass off, and created a successful business, and therefore, a good life for yourself. But deciding to work an extra 20 hours a week overtime at a minimum wage job is hardly the same thing- making a couple extra bucks doesn't necessarily equate to success or happiness.

---

Why is there this false notion that people are trapped in minimum wage careers?  Minimum wage is a starting wage.  If you are still making minimum wage after a year at a job you have pretty much demonstrated that you are either an imbecile or a slacker bum.  You work the extra hours to gain more experience and to demonstrate a work ethic which almost invariably gets you a raise.  If it doesn't go work elsewhere.

I took plenty of drugs.  Taking drugs was not my goal like it seems to be for so many here.  It was a reward I gave myself AFTER I put my hours in.  I did not work to do drugs.  I had other ambitions.  If your ambition is to get high then fine.  Live in a refrigerator box and dive in dumpsters for food.  I have no sympathy for you.

I don't specifically mean you Lynnch.  I don't think you are that guy.  But there are more than a few of them here.

---

because theres millions and millions of people here in the states who no matter how hard they work or how well they do at a job get screwed. not everyone can get a degree or a job with that degree and lets face it, companies have been cutting pay, benefits, and making as many people temp as possible specifically because they can just use their temp status as an excuse to never give them a raise.

I just started a job as a temp for amazon, and only 2 people out of 20 who are working there were even there last year, there are only 3 actual amazon employees and everyone else is an outsourced temp. when they get close to a raise or cause any problems at all, all a manager for amazon has to do is pick up the phone and that person is out of a job.

---

Repertoire89 said:

Somewhat irrelevant, but Amazon is a notoriously shit company.

---