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Re: Birth of a Skeptic [Re: Strumpling]
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absolutely correct. but skeptic = misogynist?
I mean. COME ON!

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Re: Birth of a Skeptic [Re: infidelGOD]
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I must say I disagree with that dictionary's claim as well


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Insert an "I think" mentally in front of eveything I say that seems sketchy, because I certainly don't KNOW much. Also; feel free to yell at me.
In addition: SHPONGLE

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Re: Birth of a Skeptic [Re: Strumpling]
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I think it's an outdated dictionary.
language changes all the time.
that's why new editions are released on a regular basis
you gotta stay up to date.

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Re: Birth of a Skeptic [Re: Swami]
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M_M: Indeed, seeker.
For to be a seeker is to be the opposite of a skeptic.

What a load of flat out bullshit!
I hope, for the sake of your own frontal lobe, that you made this statement while under the influence. Otherwise? well, it?s just sad.

Morrowind: You want to know why people love to stay disillusioned? The chains that hold us provide comfort- they are made of a seemingly indestructible material and it makes us feel safe to have them covering us.

*Wonders if Morrowind knows exactly how much I appreciate experiencing another mind communicating this perception of a phenomenon to me*

silversoul7: Let sleeping dogs lie. Some people are happier living in an illusion. Just leave them to be. If they want the truth, they'll come looking for it.

Nope. I just can?t accept this. Sorry.
I?m not about forcing anything on ?sleeping dogs?? I just don?t see the point of letting them waste their lives warming my floor.

M_M: The meaning is fairly clear. If you offer the truth to a person you will more than likely be mocked at, scoffed at, and abused. At the same time you will offend, hurt, and cause some damage to others who you are trying to help.

Weren?t you just talking about tact? and then you seem to then say that no matter HOW you tell it, the truth will hurt?

It?s not like I?m kicking each sleeping dog in the teeth to wake it up. Sure, I might use a bullhorn on a sleeping pack, but that?s not exactly damaging (I?m careful to keep the decibels at eardrum-friendly levels).

M_M: Mr_Mushrooms wonders how long he has to ignore someone before they finally understand he will not reply to them.

Yeah yeah? and I?m wondering how long you?re going to let your ego and emotions keep this charade up?


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Re: Birth of a Skeptic [Re: Sclorch]
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"'M_M: Indeed, seeker.
For to be a seeker is to be the opposite of a skeptic.'

What a load of flat out bullshit!"

While I wouldn't use such strong words, I agree... Many skeptics ARE indeed seekers, dude.. why would you think skeptics DON'T "seek truth?"


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Insert an "I think" mentally in front of eveything I say that seems sketchy, because I certainly don't KNOW much. Also; feel free to yell at me.
In addition: SHPONGLE

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Re: Birth of a Skeptic [Re: Strumpling]
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It seems to me that skeptics (could be anyone; from scientist to gravedigger) are doing a better job discerning truth from illusion then others (could take them a long while though :smile:)

Perchaps being skeptic about the definitions in dictionaries is a proper attitude contrary to blindly consume connotations at a whim M_Mushrooms?


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Re: Birth of a Skeptic [Re: Sclorch]
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Re: Birth of a Skeptic [Re: ]
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>No definition of a skeptic, or synonym thereof, indicates they are willing to
>believe anything. If that is the case they are entirely close-minded, unteachable,
>and unwilling to learn.

I am a skeptic.
I believe many things.
I just don?t believe them simply BECAUSE they are in a 2000 years old book, there have to be also other good arguments for me to believe them.


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Re: Birth of a Skeptic [Re: Strumpling]
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Re: Birth of a Skeptic [Re: Anno]
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Re: Birth of a Skeptic [Re: Sclorch]
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As strumpling hinted...you should not be using such strong words here. Please re-read the forum rules, thanks.


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Once, men turned their thinking over to machines in the hope that this would set them free.
But that only permitted other men with machines to enslave them.

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Re: Birth of a Skeptic [Re: trendal]
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yeah cuz only skepdick assholes use strong words huh?

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Re: Birth of a Skeptic [Re: ]
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If I disagree with everything anyone says I am not seeking anything, am I?

Questioning everything could be seen as seeking. But how is disagreeing seeking?

pretty sneaky there...

skeptic = misogynist = disagreeing with everything(?!)...

maybe all these definitions only exist in your head?


what's wrong with the dictionary definitions?:

skeptic: a doubting or incredulous person
or
skepticism: Main Entry: skep?ti?cism
Pronunciation: 'skep-t&-"si-z&m
Function: noun
1 : an attitude of doubt or a disposition to incredulity either in general or toward a particular object
2 a : the doctrine that true knowledge or knowledge in a particular area is uncertain b : the method of suspended judgment, systematic doubt, or criticism characteristic of skeptics
3 : doubt concerning basic religious principles (as immortality, providence, and revelation)
synonym see UNCERTAINTY

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Re: Birth of a Skeptic [Re: infidelGOD]
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infidelGOD said:
yeah cuz only skepdick assholes use strong words huh?


:grin:

All I know is that I don't like generalities much. hehe.
Peace.


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If I should die this very moment
I wouldn't fear
For I've never known completeness
Like being here
Wrapped in the warmth of you
Loving every breath of you
:heartpump: :bunnyhug: :yinyang:

:yinyang: :levitate: :earth: :levitate: :yinyang:

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Re: Birth of a Skeptic [Re: fireworks_god]
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yeah and I don't like double standards either

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Re: Birth of a Skeptic [Re: infidelGOD]
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so anyway, what's with the nonsense here? I don't understand


I would have to agree with Swami in this case. As long as the situation was as like he said, then it isn't really swami's actions that was the source of the pain, rather it was lies. it depends on the tone, the way you went about it, and your intent, none of which I can say for sure, but it sounds like she flipped

This person believed this and that's partially on them. I think they should be able to handle themselves even in a time of being shown that they were lied to.

"Nope. I just can?t accept this. Sorry.
I?m not about forcing anything on ?sleeping dogs?? I just don?t see the point of letting them waste their lives warming my floor."

the point isn't really for you to wonder is it?? do you spend your time and energy seeing the points in people's lives? i don't think you could make that kind of judgement.

i mean, people go through phases all the time. it's one of the things about life, change. my brother was first christian, then muslim, and now he's neither. he found his own way. he preached to me a lot, but I don't argue with him because it was pointless.

now you see these sleeping dogs, and to you they might not be doing something, but to them there's a lot happening. my brother encountered so much while he was in religion, and he is doing awesome now!

so how can you make a judgement? how do you know when something is and isn't going to happen?


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Annnnnnd I had a light saber and my friend was there and I said "you look like an indian" and he said "you look like satan" and he found a stick and a rock and he named the rock ooga booga and he named the stick Stick and we both thought that was pretty funny. We got eaten alive by mosquitos but didn't notice til the next day. I stepped on some glass while wading in the swamp and cut my foot open, didn't bother me til the next day either....yeah it was a good time, ended the night by buying some liquor for minors and drinking nips and going to he diner and eating chicken fingers, and then I went home and went to bed.

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Re: Birth of a Skeptic [Re: Swami]
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I don't get it Swami, it seems more negativity is directed at those who reveal lies than those who sold their lies to the naive (and easily hurt) in the first place. If one cares about those who's feelings are hurt, shouldn't one despise the actions of liars, charlatans and hucksters more than those who reveal that the innocently credulous have been scammed?


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To call humans 'rational beings' does injustice to the term, 'rational.'  Humans are capable of rational thought, but it is not their essence.  Humans are animals, beasts with complex brains.  Humans, more often than not, utilize their cerebrum to rationalize what their primal instincts, their preconceived notions, and their emotional desires have presented as goals - humans are rationalizing beings.

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Re: Birth of a Skeptic [Re: Swami]
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Swami said:
Today, I am still puzzled by the same reaction when some people find out that their pet mystery is not so mysterious.


Hm? I guess this reaction is not a result of finding out that their mystery would not be a mystery, but simply because they find out they are victims of deception. And this hurts. They are also ashamed and this hurts even more. So nobody can blaim them but the "teacher" in question.

Usually, when people reach true enlightment, their reaction is quite different. They are peaceful and calm inside. They feal great. And for them you can say that their mystery is not so much mysterious as it was before when they were on The Path.

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Did not Jesus (puh-lease, before you go off, I am not comparing myself to a sage) say something about removing the scales from one's eyes?


Indeed he did. But it's an art of how you do that in a way that hurts the least.

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Re: Birth of a Skeptic [Re: Evolving]
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