dr.greenfurn said:

Maybe the handicap bathrooms could serve transgenders as well. It could have a picture of the wheelchair dude with tits and a dick.

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If I wanted my own come back, I'd wipe it off your mothers chin.

Near Dylan said:

Has a tranny, a dude who thinks he's a girl, actually ever gone into a womens' bathroom to do creepy sexual shit?

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Have you ever met a tranny before? Because they're all scrawny faggots who would get their ass whooped by 90% of the female population. Did I mention that they're almost always gay?

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Prisoner#1 said:

Near Dylan said:

Has a tranny, a dude who thinks he's a girl, actually ever gone into a womens' bathroom to do creepy sexual shit?

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there are a number of people that have at the least, dressed like women and gone
into women's bathrooms for pervy reasons, some may have legitimately been trans

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shivas.wisdom said:

qman said:

Most females I know wouldn't be comfortable using restrooms with males inside, that's the reason why we don't have them today.

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anecdotal evidence,  not necessarily representative of a "typical" experience; in fact, human cognitive biases such as confirmation bias mean that exceptional or confirmatory anecdotes are much more likely to be remembered. Accurate determination of whether an anecdote is "typical" requires statistical evidence


fact, gender neutral bathrooms (both single and multi user) already exists around the world without experiencing increased rates of user discomfort or sexual assault

fact, sexual assault happens in private more than public places, and by acquaintances or even familiars more frequently than by strangers

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do you know what statistics are?

they're a collection of anecdotal evidence and under the sexual assault laws, a
simple groping is considered to be sexual assault, dont mistake rape for sexual
assault. apparently most rapes go unreported and the vast majority of sexual
assaults also go unreported

Ellis Dee said:

Of course everyone's different. But our races are our biggest form of extended family, with the most genetic similarities between us. For instance a woman who has an inter-racial child is genetically more closely related to a random member of her own race than she is to the child she bore.

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Prisoner#1 said:

shivas.wisdom said:

qman said:

Most females I know wouldn't be comfortable using restrooms with males inside, that's the reason why we don't have them today.

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anecdotal evidence,  not necessarily representative of a "typical" experience; in fact, human cognitive biases such as confirmation bias mean that exceptional or confirmatory anecdotes are much more likely to be remembered. Accurate determination of whether an anecdote is "typical" requires statistical evidence


fact, gender neutral bathrooms (both single and multi user) already exists around the world without experiencing increased rates of user discomfort or sexual assault

fact, sexual assault happens in private more than public places, and by acquaintances or even familiars more frequently than by strangers

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do you know what statistics are?

they're a collection of anecdotal evidence and under the sexual assault laws, a
simple groping is considered to be sexual assault, dont mistake rape for sexual
assault. apparently most rapes go unreported and the vast majority of sexual
assaults also go unreported

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omniaautnihil said:

Prisoner#1 said:

Near Dylan said:

Has a tranny, a dude who thinks he's a girl, actually ever gone into a womens' bathroom to do creepy sexual shit?

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there are a number of people that have at the least, dressed like women and gone
into women's bathrooms for pervy reasons, some may have legitimately been trans

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I wanna see a source for this- what I was reading is that there has only been a single case of this.

"When looking at this statistically, it is pretty easy to understand why this is true statistically. Over the 35 year history of NDOs protecting transgender people all over the world, only one case of a person abusing an NDO and committing sexual assault (in Canada) has ever been found, even by those most interested in demonizing transgender people."
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/brynn-tannehill/debunking-bathroom-myths_b_8670438.html

Edit: My source is only related to NDO's I suppose. I understand these things can, and do, happen- but why the assumption that it is going to occur, rather than that transgenders simply want to live their lives comfortably?

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Prisoner#1 said:

maybe dont rely on a blooger claiming to be a news source as reliable

http://www.peopleofwalmart.com/man-dressed-in-skirt-arrested-in-women%E2%80%99s-bathroom/
http://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/Man-Dressed-as-Woman-Arrested-for-Spying-Into-Mall-Bathroom-Stall-Police-Say-351232041.html
https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/crime/man-dressed-as-a-woman-peeps-on-women-in-bathroom-at-wal-mart/2015/06/10/cd88e1d6-0f5a-11e5-a0dc-2b6f404ff5cf_story.html
http://news.asiaone.com/news/singapore/cross-dressing-man-caught-peeping-sentosa-beach-club-toilet
http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-man-allegedly-dressed-woman-20130624-story.html

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Supachopped719 said:

Ellis Dee said:

Of course everyone's different. But our races are our biggest form of extended family, with the most genetic similarities between us. For instance a woman who has an inter-racial child is genetically more closely related to a random member of her own race than she is to the child she bore.

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I don't think this is how genetics work....

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shivas.wisdom said:

Prisoner#1 said:

maybe dont rely on a blooger claiming to be a news source as reliable

http://www.peopleofwalmart.com/man-dressed-in-skirt-arrested-in-women%E2%80%99s-bathroom/
http://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/Man-Dressed-as-Woman-Arrested-for-Spying-Into-Mall-Bathroom-Stall-Police-Say-351232041.html
https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/crime/man-dressed-as-a-woman-peeps-on-women-in-bathroom-at-wal-mart/2015/06/10/cd88e1d6-0f5a-11e5-a0dc-2b6f404ff5cf_story.html
http://news.asiaone.com/news/singapore/cross-dressing-man-caught-peeping-sentosa-beach-club-toilet
http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-man-allegedly-dressed-woman-20130624-story.html

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and did any of these occur in gender neutral bathrooms?

just like how criminals don't obey gun law, why would you expect predators to obey the assigned gender of a public washroom?

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Prisoner#1 said:

omniaautnihil said:

Edit: My source is only related to NDO's I suppose. I understand these things can, and do, happen- but why the assumption that it is going to occur, rather than that transgenders simply want to live their lives comfortably?

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maybe dont rely on a blooger claiming to be a news source as reliable

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shivas.wisdom said:

qman said:

Most females I know wouldn't be comfortable using restrooms with males inside, that's the reason why we don't have them today.

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anecdotal evidence,  not necessarily representative of a "typical" experience; in fact, human cognitive biases such as confirmation bias mean that exceptional or confirmatory anecdotes are much more likely to be remembered. Accurate determination of whether an anecdote is "typical" requires statistical evidence


fact, gender neutral bathrooms (both single and multi user) already exists around the world without experiencing increased rates of user discomfort or sexual assault

fact, sexual assault happens in private more than public places, and by acquaintances or even familiars more frequently than by strangers

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It doesn't change the fact that it's a social norm to have separate restrooms, females wouldn't feel comfortable with a open bathrooms.

Go away and ask a young female if she wants to take a poop with 3-4 young males in the same room, how's that for "statistical evidence".

qman said:

It doesn't change the fact that it's a social norm to have separate restrooms, females wouldn't feel comfortable with a open bathrooms.

Go away and ask a young female if she wants to take a poop with 3-4 young males in the same room, how's that for "statistical evidence".

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Prisoner#1 said:

Near Dylan said:

Has a tranny, a dude who thinks he's a girl, actually ever gone into a womens' bathroom to do creepy sexual shit?

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there are a number of people that have at the least, dressed like women and gone
into women's bathrooms for pervy reasons, some may have legitimately been trans

Quote:

Have you ever met a tranny before? Because they're all scrawny faggots who would get their ass whooped by 90% of the female population. Did I mention that they're almost always gay?

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did you know you're almost entirely  wrong with this statement, 30 years ago I
might have believed it but it seems that most trans women actually prefer women

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shivas.wisdom said:

did i say rape? i said sexual assault, and i meant sexual assault
not sure how your statement changes the established fact that the majority of sexual assaults occur in private by an individual known to the victim

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also,

Statistics versus Anecdotal Evidence

In many ways, anecdotal evidence is the opposite of proper statistical and scientific methodology.

Statistical methodology
Large, representative samples
Precise measurements in controlled situations
Measure/control all other relevant factors that affect the outcomes
Careful about making causal connections

Anecdotal evidence
Very small, biased samples
Casual observations in uncontrolled circumstances
Other important factors are unaccounted
Causal connections are made too easily

By itself, the above list should indicate the unreliability of anecdotal evidence -- but it’s actually worse! Anecdotal evidence is often cherry-picked to present the best case. Additionally, people are more likely to tell and to remember dramatic, extraordinary stories. And, if B follows A, our brains are wired to assume that A causes B. These dynamics bias the conclusions towards atypical outcomes with unwarranted causal connections. I could go on, but I think you get the idea!

http://blog.minitab.com/blog/adventures-in-statistics/why-anecdotal-evidence-is-unreliable

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