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OfflineLearyfanS
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Bill Graham drops acid
    #2863357 - 07/07/04 12:56 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

In the new Blender magazine Bill Graham?s new book is reviewed and the magazine prints it?s opinion of what the best part of the book is. I?ll type it all out for you.........



"I?d never touch anything they gave me. I?d never hug them. Their ladies used to want to kiss me because they had first put a blotter of acid in their mouths. I used to say, "Kiss the back of my hair if you want." It became a big running thing. It got to the point that whenever I brought food from home, I would put wax paper around it and seal it with tape so they couldn?t dose anything. On the job, somebody had to be in control, and I decided that that should be me. In that era, I was going through my 7-UP and Coca-Cola phase, where I would be drinking from a can of soda all day long. What I would do in the dressing room at Filmore West was take garbage bags of ice and fill them up with 7-UP and Coke.

One night they decided to go for it. What they did, unbeknownst to me, was warn all their people "Don?t touch the cans of soda in our dressing room." Then they took hypodermic needles and shot acid through the top of every soda can. I went through the dressing room, took a can of 7-UP and drank it. Twenty minutes later, SNAP! I started feeling weird. I looked in the mirror and all I saw was green and yellow and blue. I looked backstage and I saw Mickey Hart. Mickey was the one.........He was thrilled and I could have killed him. "You sonofabitch", I said. And he said, "We?re going on, Bill. You want to play?" I said "Sure." I was on stage for four hours. Playing the gong.




There is a picture above the article showing Bill sitting on behind the amps playing what looks like a cow bell with a dazed look on his face. Haha.






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Re: Bill Graham drops acid [Re: Learyfan]
    #2863361 - 07/07/04 12:59 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

omg great! :laugh:
thanks so much leary fan


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Re: Bill Graham drops acid [Re: notapillow]
    #2863461 - 07/07/04 01:48 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

That's fucking priceless! lol I can just see graham up on stage banging on the gong...man I wish my first tip would have been that cool....anyway we could find out what show that was? I love to get the bootleg for it.


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Re: Bill Graham drops acid [Re: Hooty]
    #2863612 - 07/07/04 02:59 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

You're welcome notapillow.

Hooty: It doesn't say when that show was. You just see Pigpen playing and Bill Graham sitting behind/on the amps hitting the thing thing.  :shrug:

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Re: Bill Graham drops acid [Re: Learyfan]
    #2863678 - 07/07/04 03:43 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

who is bill grahm, and why did they dose him without his knowledge, isnt that something youd do some a cruel person


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Re: Bill Graham drops acid [Re: Learyfan]
    #2863693 - 07/07/04 03:53 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

i did a search for 'Setlist "grateful dead" "bill graham" gong' and got nothing regarding bill playing gong at a show....you would think as many deadheads as there were making tapes and writing up setlists for everyshow with plenty of footnotes that if something as wild as a tripped out bill graham playing gong happened there'd be some record of it......who knows....I'm going to keep looking though, cause that would be a hell of an addition to one's bootleg collection. Was there no mention of the year this all happened even?


Drummers are all fucking crazy.... :lol:


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Re: Bill Graham drops acid [Re: hairs]
    #2863694 - 07/07/04 03:53 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Lol, no, not if your the dead.


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Re: Bill Graham drops acid [Re: psikooz]
    #2863715 - 07/07/04 04:05 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)



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Re: Bill Graham drops acid [Re: psikooz]
    #2863723 - 07/07/04 04:08 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Hmm, we could figure out what show it was, it was in the city for sure. Fillmore? Winterland? what other venues are in SF?


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Re: Bill Graham drops acid [Re: psikooz]
    #2863727 - 07/07/04 04:10 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

There?s no guarrantee it was in san fransisco....could have been fillmore east. we could estimate however that the show was around four hours long......



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Re: Bill Graham drops acid [Re: Hooty]
    #2863731 - 07/07/04 04:13 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Here's a quote from Mickey Hart off the Bill Graham Foundation site:

"Bill and I were waiters in a club in Atlantic Beach together in the Fifties. I used to jerk sodas downstairs, and he was a waiter upstairs, and we were there for the same reason: Tito Puente. We were both lovers of the Latin music of the Fifties in New York. That's where we started, and it went on form there, and then through the years with the Grateful Dead. He was the chief Deadhead, you know. He was the mambo king, but he also loved the Grateful Dead and that whole scene.

Bill was a ruthless business fellow. He played hardball, and every game was the World Series, but he did things that most people don't know about. He planted trees in Israel for my grandmother. He cosigned on a loan for my first car when me and Bob Weir were hitchhiking to the Fillmore. He financed the seed money for Drumming at the Edge of Magic and Planet Drum, my two books. I asked him to give me some money for this research, which took ten years, and he said, "Why? Why should I give you money for a drum book, of all things?" I said, "Because you love drums, Bill and what else will you do with your fucking money?" So he gave me the money for the drum books."

I bet he did love drums after he was formally aquainted with the wonders of the gong :grin:


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Re: Bill Graham drops acid [Re: hairs]
    #2864919 - 07/07/04 02:34 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

hairs, it is not nice to dose someone surreptitiously, but it was just a game between he and the Dead.

Hooty: hope you find the set. It would be interesting, i'm sure.




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Re: Bill Graham drops acid [Re: Learyfan]
    #2864928 - 07/07/04 02:36 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

it would be nice if someone dosed me secretly :tripping:


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Re: Bill Graham drops acid [Re: Learyfan]
    #2864951 - 07/07/04 02:46 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

That is an awesome story, I've heard a few more also. I should get out some of my books and hunt them down.


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Re: Bill Graham drops acid [Re: Learyfan]
    #2864963 - 07/07/04 02:50 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

That is awesome Learyfan!  I am going to get that book.  Thanks for sharing! :lol: I saw a few shows with Bill Graham intoducing. :smile:


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Re: Bill Graham drops acid [Re: Phishgrrl]
    #2864985 - 07/07/04 02:57 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Oh yeah? When was that?






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Re: Bill Graham drops acid [Re: Phishgrrl]
    #2864991 - 07/07/04 02:59 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Who is Bill Graham? When I read this topic I was thinking of Billy Graham.... rofl...


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Re: Bill Graham drops acid [Re: Society]
    #2865006 - 07/07/04 03:03 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

lol yeah i was thinking wtf the preacher guys does acid?

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Re: Bill Graham drops acid [Re: Vulture]
    #2865018 - 07/07/04 03:09 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Dead head who don't know Bill Graham?????


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Re: Bill Graham drops acid [Re: Learyfan]
    #2865023 - 07/07/04 03:10 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

between 90-92.  :smile:  He was such a great asset to Humanity! :smile:


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Re: Bill Graham drops acid [Re: Vulture]
    #2865025 - 07/07/04 03:11 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Concert promoter and artist manager Bill Graham forever changed the way rock and roll is presented. He provided the business and organizational acumen that allowed the anarchic San Francisco scene of the mid-to-late Sixties to flower in venues such as the Fillmore, a dilapidated auditorium that Graham transformed into a tightly run concert hall beginning in late 1966. There, Graham booked such mainstays of the psychedelic era as Jefferson Airplane, the Grateful Dead, Big Brother & the Holding Company and Quicksilver Messenger Service. In 1968, Graham moved the Fillmore into another old dance hall (the Carousel Ballroom, rechristened Fillmore West) and opened Fillmore East in New York. Subsequently, he took over Winterland, another San Francisco concert venue, and branched into band management and tour promotion. A high percentage of the most significant pop-music events of the last thirty years have been produced under the banner "Bill Graham Presents." Among other things, Graham brought a new standard of professionalism to the business.

Graham was born Wolfgang Grajonca on January 8, 1931, in Berlin and literally walked across Europe to escape the Nazis. He was raised in New York by foster parents and moved to San Francisco in the mid-Fifties to pursue an acting career. Instead, events conspired to thrust him into his calling as a concert impresario and business manager. Several fundraisers for the San Francisco Mime Troupe, a political comedy group he managed, were wildly successful due in large part to the Jefferson Airplane. Graham grasped the potential: something electrifying was beginning to happen in San Francisco, and the scene lacked only a focused, business-oriented mind to harness its power.

A tireless worker known for his gruff exterior and unsullied idealism, Graham challenged the rock audience by booking bills that mingled jazz, blues and folk artists in with all of the psychedelic rock bands of the day. One might walk into the Fillmore and find Miles Davis sharing a bill with Neil Young or the Staple Singers opening for Steppenwolf. His broad, generous view of music and the public's ability to appreciate it stands in marked contrast to the narrowcasting that would subdivide the rock and roll audience, to its lasting detriment, in the Eighties and beyond. After closing the Fillmores in 1971, Graham continued to run Winterland (site of the Band's farewell concert, "The Last Waltz," in 1978), while managing acts like Santana and the Neville Brothers, promoting national tours for Bob Dylan, the Rolling Stones and others, and helping to organize the Live Aid benefit concert of 1985.

Graham died in October, 1991, when a helicopter in which he was a passenger crashed into an electrical tower as he was leaving a concert.






January 8, 1931
Bill Graham was born in Berlin, Germany.

November 1, 1965
Bill Graham presents his first show, a benefit for the San Francisco Mime Troupe.

1966
Ken Kesey plans, and Bill Graham supervises, the Trips Festival: three days of concerts, films, readings and lights.

May 17, 1968
Having worked their way up from the street, the Santana Blues Band performs at San Francisco's storied Avalon Ballroom. They soon become regulars at the Fillmore West, and Bill Graham himself manages the band.

July 1, 1968
Bill Graham takes over the Carousel ? a music hall owned by the Jefferson Airplane and Grateful Dead ? and re-christens it Fillmore West.

DECEMBER 31, 1969 - JANUARY 1, 1970
Band of Gypsys ? a trio with Hendrix, Cox and drummer Buddy Miles ? plays Bill Graham's Fillmore East in New York. Graham calls the shows "the most brilliant, emotional display of virtuosic electric guitar playing I have ever heard."

October 25, 1991
Bill Graham was killed in a helicopter accident.





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Re: Bill Graham drops acid [Re: Learyfan]
    #2865029 - 07/07/04 03:13 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

I guess it wasn't 92 then! He introduced in Vegas I think both 90 and 91, but I have a bad memory.


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Re: Bill Graham drops acid [Re: Phishgrrl]
    #2865051 - 07/07/04 03:16 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Cool!  :thumbup:





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Re: Bill Graham drops acid [Re: Learyfan]
    #2865118 - 07/07/04 03:32 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)



Let's show them some respect tonight and not holler out allt he songs you want to hear. Let them do what they do because they are the only ones who do.

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Re: Bill Graham drops acid [Re: Adom]
    #2866721 - 07/07/04 10:56 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Here they are, the band that you heard about yesterday, these are the people that started it all, THE GRATEFUL DEAD!


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Re: Bill Graham drops acid [Re: Learyfan]
    #2866747 - 07/07/04 11:01 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Great post Learyfan. Bill Graham was an awesome person that truly understood the magic of the Grateful Dead.


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Re: Bill Graham drops acid [Re: kosmic_charlie]
    #2867510 - 07/08/04 03:16 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

  :heartpump: :loveeyes: :heartpump: I can respect smart business men like himself.  Very rare for me.


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Re: Bill Graham drops acid [Re: Adom]
    #3589961 - 01/06/05 07:33 PM (17 years, 21 days ago)

So I was talking to my brother on the phone today, and he had just seen the Festival Express and at some point after a flowing conversation we got on the topic of Mickey Hart slipping Bill Graham acid and when I got to the part about Hart using the syringes to inject the cans with acid he finished the sentence for me, suggesting he's heard it before but. But in what he heard he was playing a cowbell, not a gong. I know that Bill said in the quote at the beginning of the post that it was a gong, but after much searching and finding nothing on the matter on the internet, I wonder if he might've been mistaken. Also after mentioning this my brother told me about a tape he had from 69 (2-11-69 I think he said) in which Mickey Hart came on and said something to the effect of

"Some of you may know that Bill Graham here came on stage with us a few weeks ago and played the cowbell"

To which Graham responded
"My only aspiration in life has to be the world's greatest cowbell player"

and some one in the back said
"Give it up"

I also found this quote from mickey hart on:
http://dead.net/hotline_info/NEW_DOCUMENTS/hart/harttour/journal/mhbdaily.html

Quote:


I MISS BILL SO MUCH THESE DAYS. I THINK IT HAS BEEN ABOUT 8 YEARS NOW SINCE THAT FATEFUL NIGHT WHEN HE PLOWED INTO A POWER LINE AND HIS LIGHT WENT OUT. SO MANY GREAT NIGHTS OF MUSIC AND FUN WE SHARED. NO ONE LOVED THE GRATEFUL DEAD MORE THAN BILL. I CAN STILL SEE HIM BEHIND ME SMILING, BEAMING, WITH A COW BELL IN HAND.





Anyway so I'm going to poke around and see what I can find on the matter.


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Re: Bill Graham drops acid [Re: Infrared]
    #3589975 - 01/06/05 07:35 PM (17 years, 21 days ago)

i want some acid :frown:


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Re: Bill Graham drops acid [Re: ShroomOmatic]
    #3590059 - 01/06/05 07:51 PM (17 years, 21 days ago)

LADIES AND GENTELMAN THE GRATEFUL DEAD!

Bill Graham was the best, and this thread brought out some of the best shroomates!!

thank for the good read learyfan!!

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Re: Bill Graham drops acid [Re: Hooty]
    #3590095 - 01/06/05 07:58 PM (17 years, 21 days ago)

Quote:

Hooty said:
i did a search for 'Setlist "grateful dead" "bill graham" gong' and got nothing regarding bill playing gong at a show....you would think as many deadheads as there were making tapes and writing up setlists for everyshow with plenty of footnotes that if something as wild as a tripped out bill graham playing gong happened there'd be some record of it......who knows....I'm going to keep looking though, cause that would be a hell of an addition to one's bootleg collection. Was there no mention of the year this all happened even?


There's an intro somewhere where they talk about Bill as a member of the band because of his palying the Gong.



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Re: Bill Graham drops acid [Re: oneducktwoducks]
    #3590149 - 01/06/05 08:08 PM (17 years, 21 days ago)

He didn't know until it started hitting him!

He had been around the Dead enough to know what the effects of LSD were so when he started feeling the come on he knew he had been dosed.


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Re: Bill Graham drops acid [Re: Learyfan] * 1
    #3590258 - 01/06/05 08:27 PM (17 years, 21 days ago)

The Dead were playing Oakland around the time Bill died. We all hung around the bay and got to see his memorial show in Golden Gate park. It was nice, they just decided to throw something together real fast and it worked. Lots of good bands.

On the last night of the Oakland run Ken Kesey walked onstage while the Dead were jamming and started talking about how Bill paid for a sign in Oregon marking the cliff Keseys son had died. Ken then proceeded to cry and shout out a poem by T.S Elliot. The emotion in his voice brought the place apart.
A moment permanently embedded into the DNA of those in attendance.

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Re: Bill Graham drops acid [Re: chinacat72]
    #3590396 - 01/06/05 08:56 PM (17 years, 21 days ago)

I've got that show somewhere on tape...he reads a poem by ee cummings:

buffalo bill is defunct
jesus he was handsome man
he used to ride on a white horse
and shoot clay pigeons
one two three four five
just like that
and what I want to know is
how do you like your blue eyed boy now
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Re: Bill Graham drops acid [Re: Learyfan]
    #3590403 - 01/06/05 08:57 PM (17 years, 21 days ago)

That's great......it happened at the Fillmore West, July 2nd 1971........the picture is in A Long Strange Trip, but he caption says Fillmore East.  :tripping: Great post!  :laugh: :thumbup: :sun:


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Re: Bill Graham drops acid [Re: Hooty]
    #3590454 - 01/06/05 09:06 PM (17 years, 21 days ago)

Is it Cumming's? I always thought it was Elliot.
Not much of a poetry buff outside the beats.
Either way it was a tear jerker. :heart:


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Re: Bill Graham drops acid [Re: Dark_Star]
    #3590458 - 01/06/05 09:07 PM (17 years, 21 days ago)

Where did you find the date Dark_Star, and are you sure about it?



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Re: Bill Graham drops acid [Re: Dark_Star]
    #3590495 - 01/06/05 09:13 PM (17 years, 21 days ago)

I can't wait till the day someone doses me without my knowledge :grin:
I told my girlfriend to do it to me someday...I doubt she will though


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Re: Bill Graham drops acid [Re: Hooty]
    #3590504 - 01/06/05 09:15 PM (17 years, 21 days ago)

In A Long Strange Trip.....the Dead themselves have said that book is really accurate so I guess, they said they did it at the last show at the Fillmore West, which was on July 2nd 1971........however the picture is in there too, and the caption says the Fillmore East so....... :shrug: I'd guess that the caption is wrong, and it did happen at the Fillmore West.


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Re: Bill Graham drops acid [Re: Dark_Star]
    #3590525 - 01/06/05 09:19 PM (17 years, 21 days ago)

You're probably right...I'm downloading the 7-2-71 show from archive.org right now and I'll check for excessive gonging...:grin:


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Re: Bill Graham drops acid [Re: Dark_Star]
    #3590533 - 01/06/05 09:20 PM (17 years, 21 days ago)

According to "The Illustrated Trip" they dedicated The Other One they played that night to Owsley 'cause he was serving time. It doesnt mention anything about Bill Graham though


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Re: Bill Graham drops acid [Re: aoxomoxoaMan]
    #3590585 - 01/06/05 09:32 PM (17 years, 21 days ago)

I'm listening to the drums from the 7-2-71 show and I'm not hearing any gong....


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Re: Bill Graham drops acid [Re: Hooty]
    #3590659 - 01/06/05 09:45 PM (17 years, 21 days ago)

He was playing a cow-bell, not a gong......also, the picture shows Pigpen singing, so try some of those songs.  :laugh:


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Re: Bill Graham drops acid [Re: Dark_Star]
    #3590721 - 01/06/05 09:54 PM (17 years, 21 days ago)

I'm sure he wasn't mic'd. You would never hear that cowbell...Gong maybe


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Re: Bill Graham drops acid [Re: aoxomoxoaMan]
    #3590783 - 01/06/05 10:06 PM (17 years, 21 days ago)

It was a cowbell.......and I don't see a mic right by him, so yeah I guess you can't hear him. Oh well....


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Re: Bill Graham drops acid [Re: Dark_Star]
    #3590785 - 01/06/05 10:06 PM (17 years, 21 days ago)

Well, Im sure he had a good time


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Re: Bill Graham drops acid [Re: aoxomoxoaMan]
    #3590802 - 01/06/05 10:10 PM (17 years, 21 days ago)

Yeah, well, I just re-read it........I think I know whats up now. It says he hit a gong, and then conducted the Dead. I guess the picture was from a different night, which explains the caption.  He did look kinda spaced out in it, but.......I guess he wasn't. :sun:


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Re: Bill Graham drops acid [Re: aoxomoxoaMan]
    #3590914 - 01/06/05 10:54 PM (17 years, 20 days ago)

Quote:

aoxomoxoaMan said:
I can't wait till the day someone doses me without my knowledge :grin:
I told my girlfriend to do it to me someday...I doubt she will though




Ive had it happen on many occasions.  Each time I was not in the right position to trip, and those bastards had no right to do it to me unsuspecting.  I feel very strongly against dosing someone unsuspectingly.


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Re: Bill Graham drops acid [Re: chinacat72]
    #3590952 - 01/06/05 11:12 PM (17 years, 20 days ago)

KK: :thumbup:


Chinacat: Awesome story. Isn't that the time you said you took crystal and walked to the show or something?







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Re: Bill Graham drops acid [Re: Learyfan]
    #3594493 - 01/07/05 06:14 PM (17 years, 20 days ago)

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He did look kinda spaced out in it, but.......I guess he wasn't.





You'd be suprised at the effect a cowbell can have on a man's psyche...


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