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Americans No Longer Have The Right To Know What Country Their Meat Comes From
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The US Congress just passed a law to not allow people to know what country their meat is coming from.



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Re: Americans No Longer Have The Right To Know What Country Their Meat Comes From [Re: endogenous]
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they passed a few in the budget bill
another was after they said they wouldn't collect info in bulk
now they're allowing isp's to suggest websites to you through whatever you use

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Re: Americans No Longer Have The Right To Know What Country Their Meat Comes From [Re: Konyap] * 4
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If you're stupid enough to eat meat already that doesn't state the origin, then what the fuck do you expect? Buy your meat from companies who properly label the stuff or get it from a local butcher and stuff your freezer. Yes you actually have to pay for quality. You deserve whatever you get if you go through a fast food company. It's cheap crap and if you do buy it you're taking money out of a real American farmer/rancher who wouldn't sell the quality of shit eaten in those places to a starving third world dog.

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Re: Americans No Longer Have The Right To Know What Country Their Meat Comes From [Re: passifloracaerulea]
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Don't worry. If it's from the outside, it's all coming from Alberta. You'll live.


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Re: Americans No Longer Have The Right To Know What Country Their Meat Comes From [Re: passifloracaerulea]
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passifloracaerulea said:
If you're stupid enough to eat meat already that doesn't state the origin, then what the fuck do you expect? Buy your meat from companies who properly label the stuff or get it from a local butcher and stuff your freezer. Yes you actually have to pay for quality. You deserve whatever you get if you go through a fast food company. It's cheap crap and if you do buy it you're taking money out of a real American farmer/rancher who wouldn't sell the quality of shit eaten in those places to a starving third world dog.



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Re: Americans No Longer Have The Right To Know What Country Their Meat Comes From [Re: Algo] * 2
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Which is more important, knowing where your meat comes from, or knowing that any meat you eat meets a minimum set of safety standards?


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...the whole experience is (and is as) a profound piece of knowledge.  It is an indellible experience; it is forever known.  I have known myself in a way I doubt I would have ever occurred except as it did.

Smith, P.  Bull. Menninger Clinic (1959) 23:20-27; p. 27.

...most subjects find the experience valuable, some find it frightening, and many say that is it uniquely lovely.

Osmond, H.  Annals, NY Acad Science (1957) 66:418-434; p.436

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Re: Americans No Longer Have The Right To Know What Country Their Meat Comes From [Re: badchad]
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The tests that are usually done are based on US standards and are far from being able to detect every contaminant.

I would be extremely careful ingesting anything that comes out of countries like China.


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Re: Americans No Longer Have The Right To Know What Country Their Meat Comes From [Re: endogenous]
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Enjoy your dog meat boys n girls.


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Re: Americans No Longer Have The Right To Know What Country Their Meat Comes From [Re: Zombi3]
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Zombi3 said:
Enjoy your dog meat boys n girls.



Mmmm. Dog meat, good stuff, finally legal in the USA.

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Re: Americans No Longer Have The Right To Know What Country Their Meat Comes From [Re: endogenous]
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Usually this kind of fear is rooted in bigotry, like this,

endogenous said:
I would be extremely careful ingesting anything that comes out of countries like China.



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Re: Americans No Longer Have The Right To Know What Country Their Meat Comes From [Re: DieCommie]
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DieCommie said:
Usually this kind of fear is rooted in bigotry, like this,

endogenous said:
I would be extremely careful ingesting anything that comes out of countries like China.





I guess you haven't heard of the Chinese drywall, or grouper, or toxic toys, huh?

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Re: Americans No Longer Have The Right To Know What Country Their Meat Comes From [Re: endogenous]
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endogenous said:
The US Congress just passed a law to not allow people to know what country their meat is coming from.






your video is listed as private

want to show us the text from the bill and link to the bill

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Re: Americans No Longer Have The Right To Know What Country Their Meat Comes From [Re: DieCommie]
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DieCommie said:
Usually this kind of fear is rooted in bigotry, like this,

endogenous said:
I would be extremely careful ingesting anything that comes out of countries like China.





Bigotry? That's facts. You know how contaminated half the shit from China is?

It's extremely smart to be extremely careful ingesting anything that comes out of China. They have a really, really bad track record.


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Re: Americans No Longer Have The Right To Know What Country Their Meat Comes From [Re: Madcaps] * 1
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Madcaps said:
DieCommie said:
Usually this kind of fear is rooted in bigotry, like this,

endogenous said:
I would be extremely careful ingesting anything that comes out of countries like China.





I guess you haven't heard of the Chinese drywall, or grouper, or toxic toys, huh?



China does not hold the monopoly on poor quality products.  Your good ol' US of A has produced it's share of toxic crap.

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Re: Americans No Longer Have The Right To Know What Country Their Meat Comes From [Re: Shroomism]
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Shroomism said:
DieCommie said:
Usually this kind of fear is rooted in bigotry, like this,

endogenous said:
I would be extremely careful ingesting anything that comes out of countries like China.





Bigotry? That's facts. You know how contaminated half the shit from China is?




What facts?  You have posted none.  You are just engaging in fear mongering and hyperbole. 

You know how contaminated half the shit from the US is?  Thats a fact!  :rolleyes:

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Re: Americans No Longer Have The Right To Know What Country Their Meat Comes From [Re: DieCommie]
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Auto-Summary
This forum post highlights numerous food safety incidents in China, painting a grim picture of the country's food industry. Users share alarming facts, including contaminated Jinhua ham, fake powdered milk deaths, counterfeit drugs, mislabeled pickled vegetables, soy sauce made from human hair, melamine-contaminated baby formula, fake beef, cat meat sold as rabbit, expired meat sold to global brands, and gutter oil. The post emphasizes that these issues are not just isolated incidents but a pattern of questionable practices in China's food supply chain. The author concludes by urging caution when consuming products from China, arguing that the fear is based on verifiable facts rather than bigotry.

DieCommie said:
Shroomism said:
DieCommie said:
Usually this kind of fear is rooted in bigotry, like this,

endogenous said:
I would be extremely careful ingesting anything that comes out of countries like China.





Bigotry? That's facts. You know how contaminated half the shit from China is?




What facts?  You have posted none.  You are just engaging in fear mongering and hyperbole. 

You know how contaminated half the shit from the US is?  Thats a fact!  :rolleyes:



K.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Food_safety_incidents_in_China#Poisonous_Jinhua_ham

A couple excerpts:

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In 2003, several small producers of Jinhua hams (from Jinhua, Zhejiang) operated out of season and produced hams during warmer months, treating their hams with pesticides to prevent spoilage and insect infestation.[1] The hams were soaked in the pesticide Dichlorvos, which is a volatile organophosphate insecticide used for fumigation.[2]



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In April 2004, at least 13 babies in Fuyang, Anhui and 50–60 more in rural areas of Anhui died of malnourishment from ingesting fake powdered milk. In addition, 100–200 other babies in the province suffered malnutrition but survived. Local officials in Fuyang arrested 47 people who were responsible for making and selling the fake formula and investigators discovered 45 types of substandard formula for sale in Fuyang markets. Over 141 factories were responsible for the production of the formula and Chinese officials seized 2,540 bags of fake formula by mid-April. The State Food and Drug Administration ordered an investigation in May, 2004.



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Counterfeit drugs

The State Food and Drug Administration reported that their officials had resolved 14 cases involving fake drugs and 17 cases involving "health accidents" at drug manufacturing facilities.[10] One of these incidents involved fake Armillarisni A; ten people injected with the fake drug died in May, 2006.[11][12] The drug quality inspectors at the factory that produced the Armillarisni A drugs failed to notice that the chemical diglycol had been added to drugs. In July, 2006, six people died and 80 more became sick after ingesting an antibiotic with disinfectant as an ingredient.[13] In 2006, the government also "revoked the business licenses of 160 drug manufacturers and retailers."[13]



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In June 2004, the Chengdu Quality Inspection Department released figures that only about 23% of all pickled vegetables produced in Chengdu, Sichuan had an acceptable amount of chemical additives. The labels on the pickled vegetables that was supposed to indicate the chemical content were also found to be inaccurate. In Sichuan, the factories had been using industrial-grade salt to pickle the vegetables and had been spraying pesticides containing high amounts of DDVP on the pickled vegetables before shipment



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Stories began circulating in the press about cheap soy sauces made from human hair. These sauces were manufactured in China using a chemical amino acid extraction process similar to artificially hydrolyzed soy sauces and then quietly exported to other countries. An investigative report that aired on Chinese television exposed the unsanitary and potentially contaminated sources of the hair:
“ When asking how the amino acid syrup (or powder) was generated, the manufacturer replied that the powder was generated from human hair. Because the human hair was gathered from salon[s], barbershop[s] and hospitals around the country, it was unhygienic and mixed with condoms, used hospital cottons, used menstrual cycle pad[s], used syringe[s], etc.[8] ”

In response, the Chinese government banned production of soy sauces made from hair. Other carcinogens remain, see 3-MCPD.



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n September 2008, a fresh outbreak of kidney disease occurred, due to baby formula contaminated by melamine. Six babies died and 294,000 were made sick by the tainted formula with 51,900 requiring hospitalization.[66][67] The supplier of the milk, Sanlu Group, is a name brand and is a major player in the industry in China. The company is said to have known of the problem for months, but claims the contaminant came from milk suppliers



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Fake Beef

In September 2013, according to JRJ[85] and Shanghaiist[86] six workshops near Xi'an, Shaanxi, have been shut down that produced fake beef by mixing pork with chemicals, such as paraffin wax and industrial salts.



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Cat Meat Scandal

In October 2013, cat meat, slaughtered at a "black" slaughterhouse in Huai'an City near Shanghai, was sold to butchers and local markets under the guise of “rabbit”. Some of the cats were kept alive and shipped to the southern provinces of Guangdong and Guangxi where they were sold for around 10 yuan (£1) per animal.[87][88]




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Expired meat sold to global brands

Shanghai Husi Food Co. Ltd. supplied products containing expired meat to McDonald's, KFC, Pizza Hut, Starbucks, and Burger King. The products were sold in numerous countries including Japan.[89]

McDonald's Corp and KFC's parent Yum! Brands, Inc. apologized to Chinese customers after the scandal was exposed. Shanghai Husi Food Co Ltd based in China was a subsidiary of U.S.-based OSI Group LLC.[89]

The company was forced in July 2014 to shut down after local television station Dragon TV ran footage of the company's factory workers picking meat such as hamburger patties from off the factory floor and throwing them directly into meat mixers. Also bare hands handled poultry and beef on the assembly line. The footage also showed sewage and trash spread all over the floor of the plant. In addition, the expired meat, which workers described as "stinky," was concealed mostly by mixing it with non-expired meat.



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gutter_oil

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Gutter oil (Chinese: 地沟油; pinyin: Dìgōu yóu)(Chinese: 餿水油; pinyin: sōushuí yóu) is a term used in China, both Mainland and Taiwan, to describe illicit cooking oil which has been recycled from waste oil collected from sources such as restaurant fryers, sewer drains, grease traps and slaughterhouse waste. The issue is frequently found in People's Republic of China; however, the issue is not limited to China, Southeast Asia is also a problematic area in this regard[citation needed]. Reprocessing is often very rudimentary; techniques include filtration, boiling, refining and the removal of adulterants.[1] It is then packaged and resold as a cheaper alternative to normal cooking oil.



http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/china/3074986/Chinese-ordered-cover-up-of-tainted-milk-scandal.html

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Senior officials gave the order to Sanlu, the firm whose poisoned milk powder is said to be responsible for at least four deaths and illness in almost 53,000 infants.

It was passed on during three meetings at which the company told officials in the city of Shijiazhuang, where the company is based, of the extent of the crisis.

Present were local representatives of the General Administration of Quality Supervision, Inspection and Quarantine (AQSIQ), China's national product safety watchdog.

AQSIQ had already carried complaints on its website from a doctor concerned about the numbers of children who had drunk Sanlu suffering from kidney stones.

Yet despite Sanlu's warnings that its baby formula was contaminated with the chemical melamine, no recall notice was issued to consumers.



That's just the tip of the freaking iceberg. It goes much much farther if you want it.

Oh and let's not even talk about the heavy metal and toxin laden vegetables/produce. Or the E-juice contaminated with heavy metals and extremely inaccurate nic levels.
GTFO out of here with that "fear mongering".. my fear is a rational one based on facts.
China has a history of their food being shady as fuck.


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Re: Americans No Longer Have The Right To Know What Country Their Meat Comes From [Re: DieCommie] * 1
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China makes pure garbage. The only thing Chinese I like is there food and pussy, even though its slanted.

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Re: Americans No Longer Have The Right To Know What Country Their Meat Comes From [Re: Shroomism]
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GTFO out of here with that "fear mongering".. my fear is based on facts.



Your fear is based on one sided anecdote and cherry picking.  Also, your anecdotes do not support your claim that half of stuff from China is contaminated.  Nor does it support the implicit claim that stuff produced in the US is better.  The US and other countries have quality control issues too.

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Re: Americans No Longer Have The Right To Know What Country Their Meat Comes From [Re: DieCommie]
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DieCommie said:
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GTFO out of here with that "fear mongering".. my fear is based on facts.



Your fear is based on one sided anecdote and cherry picking.  Also, your anecdotes do not support your claim that half of stuff from China is contaminated.  Nor does it support the implicit claim that stuff produced in the US is better.  The US and other countries have quality control issues too.



Lol, this dude is crazy:bubbles:

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Re: Americans No Longer Have The Right To Know What Country Their Meat Comes From [Re: DieCommie]
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I never said they didn't. But quality control issues and FAKE products are FAR more prevalent over there.
How many times have you sat down at a restaurant in the US and been served Cat as Rabbit? Or fake beef? That was fried in gutter oil.
US has its problems too, I have enough complaints about the quality of our food---- but I'm not going to compound it by eating shit from China.

Tell me.. when was the last US baby formula scandal? Shit like that must happen all the time here.. right? I mean we have our problems too.
At least we have SOME standards. Even if they suck.


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