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Re: Forced sterilization in women with "intellectual handicaps".. Your thoughts.. [Re: shLong]
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shLong said:
Yeah that's true, but the amount of money the average taxpayer pays for social assistance programs is miniscule compared to all the other shit their taxes go to.


That's not my point.

These programs encourage, or at very least reduce the discouragement via financial impact women have to have kids.

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Tax credits do not cover the cost of a kid...  Not even close.

If you think monetary incentive will prevent people from doing what 3 billion years of instinct has driven them to do then you don't understand people, or life, very well.  And if you think poor, unintelligent people are going to have the foresight and will power to think about the future then you don't understand poor, unintelligent people very well.



I guarantee you less people who cannot afford kids will have them if they know someone else won't pick up the bill should they not be able to.

Also, I'm not talking tax credits. I'm talking child support, ebt, and snap. A family of 5 can receive over 2k in cash/food assistance iirc.

Edited by luvdemboomers (11/10/15 10:33 PM)

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Re: Forced sterilization in women with "intellectual handicaps".. Your thoughts.. [Re: shLong]
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shLong said:
1st world countries are all seeing their birthrates drop.
Population won't be the issue everyone seems to think it is... At least here and in Europe and successful Asian countries.


there's so many people it doesn't matter if the birthrate drops, it has to at least match our death rate and thats not even close, idealy we should be depopulating about 1/4th of the population and thats being conservative

women will always have enough incentive to have kids, its called getting laid, feeling old, not being alone, having a pretty life like doll to play dressup with:lol:

some things require government intervention, population control is one of these items, they helped speed up the problem, now they need to reverse it


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We were sent to hell for eternity :hellfire: Ø:omgawesome:h®
We play on earth to pass the time :foreheadslap:

Over-population the root of all Evil-brings the Elites Closer to the gates.

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Re: Forced sterilization in women with "intellectual handicaps".. Your thoughts.. [Re: makaveli8x8]
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makaveli8x8 said:
shLong said:
1st world countries are all seeing their birthrates drop.
Population won't be the issue everyone seems to think it is... At least here and in Europe and successful Asian countries.


there's so many people it doesn't matter if the birthrate drops, it has to at least match our death rate and thats not even close, idealy we should be depopulating about 1/4th of the population and thats being conservative

women will always have enough incentive to have kids, its called getting laid, feeling old, not being alone, having a pretty life like doll to play dressup with:lol:

some things require government intervention, population control is one of these items, they helped speed up the problem, now they need to reverse it



By 2050 the death and birth rates are predicted to be the same.

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Re: Forced sterilization in women with "intellectual handicaps".. Your thoughts.. [Re: shLong]
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I think the figure was the population will level off at 8bil.

It's been awhile since I saw the video, so I'm not totally sure, but it's something close.

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Re: Forced sterilization in women with "intellectual handicaps".. Your thoughts.. [Re: shLong]
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yah and im predicting bullshit, plus earth will be destroyed by 2050.  in 20 years the car traffic has pretty much doubled, i don't want to live in a world where that shit doubles again

if everywhere looks like cali or newyork im out, fuck those places


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We were sent to hell for eternity :hellfire: Ø:omgawesome:h®
We play on earth to pass the time :foreheadslap:

Over-population the root of all Evil-brings the Elites Closer to the gates.

Edited by makaveli8x8 (11/10/15 10:37 PM)

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Re: Forced sterilization in women with "intellectual handicaps".. Your thoughts.. [Re: DieCommie]
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DieCommie said:
Tax credits do not cover the cost of a kid...  Not even close.

If you think monetary incentive will prevent people from doing what 3 billion years of instinct has driven them to do then you don't understand people, or life, very well.  And if you think poor, unintelligent people are going to have the foresight and will power to think about the future then you don't understand poor, unintelligent people very well.



True enough, but i didnt claim i 'understood everyone'.

i know why people abuse laws to get tax breaks. everyone wants more money, whether they are poor or rich.

i'm just saying its fucked up and we need to stop rewarding them


@ShLong, i know that the breaks they get arent enough to raise a child, i'm more concerned that they get that money no matter what their "significant others" income is.

As i said in my last post, my cousin is a piece of shit with 5 kids and he wont marry his girlfriend. Its not that he NEEDs that money from the tax breaks/welfare. he has a dozen aquariums and a fuckin Jacuzzi in his house. its that they know its an easy way to get a tax break and save huge ammounts of money

Edited by Adolin (11/10/15 10:39 PM)

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Re: Forced sterilization in women with "intellectual handicaps".. Your thoughts.. [Re: makaveli8x8]
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I'll try to find the video..

He presented facts.. It was a lecture at a uni I think.

I'll post it when I find it.. You'll see.

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Re: Forced sterilization in women with "intellectual handicaps".. Your thoughts.. [Re: shLong]
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Gresh.. I know, man.
It's frustrating.

My exes sister has five and gets a ridiculous amount that she wastes on total bullshit every year.

I get your point.. I truly do.

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Re: Forced sterilization in women with "intellectual handicaps".. Your thoughts.. [Re: shLong] * 1
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predicting the future has nothing to do with facts.  They are guessing based off of past statistics ect which is just a big clusterfuck of random events, with internal and external forces.

here's my facts, if u put 2 mice in a cage as long as they have food and water they will breed until they have so little room they get pissed at each other and it turns into blood bath.

they can't predict weather, they can't agree on global warming shit, science is wrong, alot.  there is no way you can convince me that they are sure the population will cap at 8b, unless that number happens to be one that means our elbows are going to be touching.

look at india, china, newyork, cali, last i checked those dummys are still fucking like rabbits and their dicks already touch



look at those pictures, the answer is clear as day, they can't stop themselves.


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We were sent to hell for eternity :hellfire: Ø:omgawesome:h®
We play on earth to pass the time :foreheadslap:

Over-population the root of all Evil-brings the Elites Closer to the gates.

Edited by makaveli8x8 (11/10/15 10:56 PM)

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Re: Forced sterilization in women with "intellectual handicaps".. Your thoughts.. [Re: makaveli8x8]
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It's based off current stats.. Past facts wouldn't help anything.

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Re: Forced sterilization in women with "intellectual handicaps".. Your thoughts.. [Re: shLong]
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current stats mean nothing without the past to show a trend, which still mean nothing because of all the external factors which happen in both the past present and future which vary:cookiemonster:


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We were sent to hell for eternity :hellfire: Ø:omgawesome:h®
We play on earth to pass the time :foreheadslap:

Over-population the root of all Evil-brings the Elites Closer to the gates.

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Re: Forced sterilization in women with "intellectual handicaps".. Your thoughts.. [Re: makaveli8x8]
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The either made no fucking sense... Or too much sense
I am officially confused.

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Re: Forced sterilization in women with "intellectual handicaps".. Your thoughts.. [Re: shLong]
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u can see x amount of deaths x amount of births, but without previous years you can't detect a trend to predict future years, but again there's lots of external factors.  For example very soon they will have cancer beat, everyone will start living to 80-90, again population boom, beating heart attacks isn't far off either.  u beat those 2 things, which is very realistic and possible say in the next 10-20 years, and our population gets so out of control so fast, it would basically double our population

then you look in the past, you had aids n shit killing people which isn't happening anymore(well not as much and we have the meds for it now), crazy wars that im going to go out on a limb and say were killing more than these proxy wars we have now.

People had extra kids to tend to farms, thats dieing off i get that, but whats not dieing off is people still want children, they will always want children, aside from the gay movmement which is most likely our population control from teh gov in action but isn't enough.

so the trends of birth rates going down is based off the lack of need for farms, what isn't going to die off is mr. and ms. slong wanting a baby


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We were sent to hell for eternity :hellfire: Ø:omgawesome:h®
We play on earth to pass the time :foreheadslap:

Over-population the root of all Evil-brings the Elites Closer to the gates.

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Re: Forced sterilization in women with "intellectual handicaps".. Your thoughts.. [Re: makaveli8x8]
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Here.. This is it. Check it out.

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Re: Forced sterilization in women with "intellectual handicaps".. Your thoughts.. [Re: shLong]
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Didnt read thread but yes.  We will start with my baba mama and women like them I.E


Juggles  more then first generation welfare families  the Amish  Islamist and militant atheist ..... I could go on but



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Re: Forced sterilization in women with "intellectual handicaps".. Your thoughts.. [Re: shLong]
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The problem isn't an over abundance of mentally handicapped people. Those people are already in the minority.

The problem is an over abundance of douchebags and people who aren't physically attractive


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On the ground you lay, with your dogs you pray, at a neon hieroglyph sky you gaze

Hugging your mind, praying to survive, feeling the love of the hieroglyphs in the sky
We all need more love, and mainly less hate
Hate is the blind that covers the heart's eye
That makes the heart's eye cry
Locked deep away in the skies of our minds

It's all in the mind

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Re: Forced sterilization in women with "intellectual handicaps".. Your thoughts.. [Re: trekie] * 1
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Wait, what... The Amish? They don't bother anybody

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Re: Forced sterilization in women with "intellectual handicaps".. Your thoughts.. [Re: shLong]
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Read into it man they are scum.....
:ifyoucanawe::niggawhat: :aweman:  :aweshit:  :awesketch:

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Re: Forced sterilization in women with "intellectual handicaps".. Your thoughts.. [Re: trekie] * 2
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No.. I actually quite like the Amish.
Maybe you mean they're scum to each other or something, idk, but that seems way off base.. And I live near a ton of them..

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Re: Forced sterilization in women with "intellectual handicaps".. Your thoughts.. [Re: shLong] * 1
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zappaisgod said:
What if someone like me was in charge of that program?  Almost all of you would remain childless.


Most of the shroomery is probably classified as "intellectually handicapped".

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