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Re: Forced sterilization in women with "intellectual handicaps".. Your thoughts.. [Re: TNK]
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TheNatureKid said:
Theft is a social issue, mental illness is a eugenics issue, that was my point.


I'm sorry, dude, but I don't follow your thought here. :confused:

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Re: Forced sterilization in women with "intellectual handicaps".. Your thoughts.. [Re: TNK]
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TheNatureKid said:
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Carolyn Frohmader, CEO of Women with Disabilities Australia, said Australia does not have any laws in place to prohibit the forced sterilization of women with disabilities, or children, and it falls under the UN definition of torture.


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She said most girls who are sterilised have an intellectual disability and cited the example of a 39-year-old woman who is part of WWDA who was sterilised when she was seven years old because she had a vision impairment.


Vision impairment and sterilized?

Duh'fuck?


wow, yeah, that is fucked up.
I was thinking it was limited to only severely mentally handicapped people.

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Re: Forced sterilization in women with "intellectual handicaps".. Your thoughts.. [Re: shLong] * 1
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shLong said:
http://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2015/nov/10/un-examines-australias-forced-sterilisation-of-women-with-disabilities

Saw this and it got me thinking.

Obviously a touchy subject, but how do you feel about this?


No. As much as I'd like it I don't think the government should impose an IQ test on the right to reproduce..  What if someone like me was in charge of that program?  Almost all of you would remain childless.


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Re: Forced sterilization in women with "intellectual handicaps".. Your thoughts.. [Re: shLong] * 1
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shLong said:
TheNatureKid said:
Theft is a social issue, mental illness is a eugenics issue, that was my point.


I'm sorry, dude, but I don't follow your thought here. :confused:


Someone mentioned something about people in poverty and theft, idk I skimmed over it.
Anyways, my point was that you can't solve an issue like crime with sterilization of criminals lol.

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wow, yeah, that is fucked up.
I was thinking it was limited to only severely mentally handicapped people.



Yeah, that was also what I initially assumed, only then to read through the article and find that diddy.
I don't think people who can't take care of themselves even in the most basic of methods should have children, but vision impairment is hardly a good reason to prevent someone from having a child.

Though I guess adoption is always an option, but still.


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Edited by TNK (02/22/22 22:22 PM)

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Re: Forced sterilization in women with "intellectual handicaps".. Your thoughts.. [Re: zappaisgod]
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zappaisgod said:
shLong said:
http://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2015/nov/10/un-examines-australias-forced-sterilisation-of-women-with-disabilities

Saw this and it got me thinking.

Obviously a touchy subject, but how do you feel about this?


No. As much as I'd like it I don't think the government should impose an IQ test on the right to reproduce..  What if someone like me was in charge of that program?  Almost all of you would remain childless.


Well, we need dumb people too.

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Re: Forced sterilization in women with "intellectual handicaps".. Your thoughts.. [Re: ecstaticengine10]
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ecstaticengine10 said:
I consider people who can't be net contributors to society a disability.



Your total annual contribution to this problem is a measly ten dollars a year. Hundreds of dollars of your taxs goes to US imperialism. Youre literally a walking fucking advertisement for the efficacy of state run propaganda.

Edited by Bodhi of Ankou (11/10/15 04:37 PM)

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Re: Forced sterilization in women with "intellectual handicaps".. Your thoughts.. [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
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In b4 he says he wants his $10 back.

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Re: Forced sterilization in women with "intellectual handicaps".. Your thoughts.. [Re: r00tuuu123]
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r00tuuu123 said:
ecstaticengine10 said:
shLong said:
For what length of time?
Where do you draw the line between freeloader or somebody using temporary help?


A solid point if you can't get it together after 5 years sterilization should be an option. I also believe abortions should be free and contraceptives heavily subsidized. This would decrease crime and actually improve the prospects of the working class.


:wtf: how would this decrease crime and create jobs. Were you born yesterday or did your brain just fall out of your asshole? You just flagged yourself to be sterilized. :canthelpbutlaugh:


I have no desire to have children.

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Re: Forced sterilization in women with "intellectual handicaps".. Your thoughts.. [Re: Crystal G]
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Crystal G said:
ecstaticengine10 said:
I think we should sterilize everybody on government assistance.


Most people are only on government assistance temporarily though (like less than 5 years), you want a permanent solution to a temporary problem?


If their not chronic recipients I see no issue people gaming the system however need to get a wake up call.

Edited by ecstaticengine10 (11/10/15 04:45 PM)

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Re: Forced sterilization in women with "intellectual handicaps".. Your thoughts.. [Re: shLong]
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It's a step in the right direction if it culminates in the sterilisation of all Australians, but in itself this is a sickening violation of human rights.


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Re: Forced sterilization in women with "intellectual handicaps".. Your thoughts.. [Re: ecstaticengine10] * 1
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Well I mean... let's take this sentence for example

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At least half of all women with Down syndrome do ovulate and are fertile. Between 35 and 50 percent of children born to mothers with Down syndrome are likely to have trisomy 21 or other developmental disabilities


So. Maybe, perhaps, we might just, if possible, begin to think about the eventuality of it being almost a problem maybe?


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Re: Forced sterilization in women with "intellectual handicaps".. Your thoughts.. [Re: ecstaticengine10]
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ecstaticengine10 said:
If their not chronic recipients I see no issue people gaming the system however need to get a wake up call.


Sterilization is unnecessary in developed countries. The birth-rate has been steadily decreasing (and will continue to decrease) in all developed countries, to the point that there will be a serious necessity for taxpayers in the future to sustain the economy.

I find it funny too that people often prefer to mandate sterilization with IQ or wealth. IQ does not determine morality, in fact some of the most immoral and sociopathic people are people with high IQ's or high wealth.

Edited by Crystal G (11/10/15 06:24 PM)

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Re: Forced sterilization in women with "intellectual handicaps".. Your thoughts.. [Re: Crystal G]
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And we will always have them.


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Re: Forced sterilization in women with "intellectual handicaps".. Your thoughts.. [Re: shLong] * 1
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shLong said:
http://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2015/nov/10/un-examines-australias-forced-sterilisation-of-women-with-disabilities

Saw this and it got me thinking.

Obviously a touchy subject, but how do you feel about this?


Well, if the Nazis did it, why not Australia.
:cookiemonster:

Do not think sterilization should be forced on people due to disabilities -- however, it would be nice if the government were to pay people who did so by choice, rather than throwing money at people pumping out babies they can't support.

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Re: Forced sterilization in women with "intellectual handicaps".. Your thoughts.. [Re: shLong]
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shLong said:
http://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2015/nov/10/un-examines-australias-forced-sterilisation-of-women-with-disabilities

Saw this and it got me thinking.

Obviously a touchy subject, but how do you feel about this?


how many times did australia tell us about how they're so much more free than the US
but they do forced sterilizations so the 'mongoloids' cannot breed, human rights?


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Re: Forced sterilization in women with "intellectual handicaps".. Your thoughts.. [Re: Prisoner#1] * 1
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Prisoner#1 said:
how many times did australia tell us about how they're so much more free than the US


11

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Re: Forced sterilization in women with "intellectual handicaps".. Your thoughts.. [Re: shLong]
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shLong said:
Prisoner#1 said:
how many times did australia tell us about how they're so much more free than the US


11


427

and how many times did they talk about their much better human rights track record


of course these folks arent considered to be in prison since they've committed no
crimes so in reality, who locks up more people, innocent and guilty? the US is
allowing these foreign nationals to wander the streets, hold jobs, start families
and even run for political office

http://www.theguardian.com/law/2015/jan/29/australias-treatment-of-asylum-seekers-diminishes-human-rights-record


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Re: Forced sterilization in women with "intellectual handicaps".. Your thoughts.. [Re: Prisoner#1] * 1
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If they're mentally handicapped and sexually promiscuous, she could take birth control along with her other medications....


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Re: Forced sterilization in women with "intellectual handicaps".. Your thoughts.. [Re: thebitterbuffalo26]
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And it would be up to the guardian


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Re: Forced sterilization in women with "intellectual handicaps".. Your thoughts.. [Re: thebitterbuffalo26]
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Or not.  You want the government to force that?  Who gets to decide who is too stupid?  I can assure you that you do NOT want it to be me.


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